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Not ticketmaster?
Posted: March 12, 2005 12:58 pm
by moeron
Is it me, or is ticketbaster not selling tickets for all Jimmy's show? What outlet will Jimmy's shows be listed on. I just try to buy 2 tickets for my wife and me. I just don't want to shut out. Any help. Thanks. 'cause I won't use scalpers. would tickets.com have them?
Posted: March 12, 2005 3:36 pm
by Ilph
I've heard that tickets.com is selling tickets. They are owned by TM, so it's the same old s***, just with a different name...
Posted: March 12, 2005 11:52 pm
by cartmill72
Tickets.com is owned by Major League Baseball's internet arm - not Ticketmaster.
Tickets.com, at least through last year, sold approximately 40% of all Major League Baseball tickets. With Buffett playing in baseball parks, it only makes sense for the tickets to be sold through ticketing systems already set up and/or under contract for that venue (such as PNC Park).
The tickets for Philadelphia were handled by neither Ticketmaster or Tickets.com, but rather New Era Tickets - a sub of Comcast (who owns many Philly-area franchises and venues).
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Posted: March 13, 2005 2:11 am
by loadmaster24
I also noticed that most of the concerts are in ball fields rather than small venues like the Tweeter Center. So maybe by using other ticket outlets it stops those people who had all the tickets bought out before we had a chance to get them. This puts us all on a level playing field. In the past 5 years we had to get the tickets off of ebay and pay through the nose...supply and demand. This time we were able to get good seats for a great price. So tickets.com and neweratickets are in on the Philadelphia and Pittsburgh show, nice change. I still noticed tickets being sold before the public had a chance to buy. I had a great time last year at Fenway Park in Boston but stll perfer a smaller venue like the Tweeter Center. Anyhow just wanted to give you my 2 cents.
Regards,
Loadmaster

Posted: March 13, 2005 8:35 am
by cartmill72
Tickets are going to make it into the hands of brokers and scalpers before the general public regardless of what ticketing system is used. Why? Because many of the companies, teams and venues also own ticket broker companies. This is a little known fact.
http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July ... aug04.html
This explains why brokers always knows the dates before the general public or before the dates are officially announced by the artist.
At any rate, I've been visiting this site since 1998 and I've read "ticket scalper" complaint threads over and over and over and over. It isn't ever going to stop and there will never be a level playing field. The best bet is to learn the ticket buying game and figure out your own loophole or source to give you an advantage. Believe me, there are ways to do this.
Never once have I been shut out and never once have I paid more than face value. Do your homework and make friends with the ticket guy at Kroger.
Re: tix
Posted: March 13, 2005 10:36 am
by jimsig
loadmaster24 wrote:I also noticed that most of the concerts are in ball fields rather than small venues like the Tweeter Center. So maybe by using other ticket outlets it stops those people who had all the tickets bought out before we had a chance to get them.
The venues have a contract with Ticketmaster, tickets.com, New Era, etc. No matter who is playing at that venue they have to use that Ticket company. Pearl Jam tried to challenge TM's Monopoly a few years ago to no avail. I can't remember all the specifics but it didn't really work out.
It's unfortunate for the consumer that TM get to charge a "convience fee" and an "order processing charge" on every ticket as high as they do. I got 2 tickets the other day for a U2 using TM.com and the charges on top of what the tickets cost were $24.55. Have you ever noticed that the "convience fee" varies by ticket cost? Does it cost more to print a more expensive ticket. The convenience fee for the most expensive ticket for that same show was $24.70 a pair. Add the $ 3.05 order charge and it's $27.75 for the pair. Thankfully they don't raise the price of the order charge depending on ticket price.
I am sure TM, etc are getting it both ways, they probably get per ticket cut from the venue/promoter and then the fee from us. That's not to mention the fact that if you do "ticket fast" and print your own tickets out they charge you for that. Now that makes sense! You can also bet they are padding the cost of special shipping with UPS.
I wouldn't be surprised that with everything added from the consumer and venues that TM makes an average of over $25 for each pair of tickets they sold for that show. That would make it aprox. $250,000 for ticketmaster for that one show, and U2 sold out 4 shows yesterday. From my estimates it took a total of 8 min for the first 2 shows to sell out and 5 min each for the last 2 to sell out. 1 million for less the 20 min's "work" That's not to mention all the other shows that sold out yesterday.
I do realize that TM etc provide a service that the individual venues could not handle on their own. Imagine if you could only get tickets at the local venue? That would probably be a nightmare for everyone. I'm not saying that TM etc should be making a profit, but DAMN. Thay are making it hand over fist, no wonder why Pearl Jam took them on.
Re: tix
Posted: March 13, 2005 11:42 am
by cartmill72
jimsig wrote:Thay are making it hand over fist, no wonder why Pearl Jam took them on.
Sadly, they, too, lost.