Lawmakers Widen Schiavo Right-To-Die Fight

[sonofabeach]

According to a news report that I just saw, this "starvation" method happens every day in America.
Michael Schiavo was recently offered one million dollars and "reportedly" even 10 million to give up the rights to her but refused.
Of course this was on CNN


question:
If she had a living will stating that she wanted to die if left in this state, would you then agree with it or do you think that "big goverment" should step in and say no?

[Lightning Bolt]

Someone should put a bullet in his head and I hope someone does........ This is nothing but murder and it is sickening......

Yeah.... and what you're suggesting is SO MUCH more reasonable????

It's nice to know I'm not the only one who respects the sanctity of life.

You've really said a mouthful there

I am a devote pro-lifer and proud of it...... Don't judge & you won't be judged.....

That is SOOO evident by your sensitive, well-chosen words.
You guys are a regular Martin & Lewis!!

[Wino you know]

That is SOOO evident by your sensitive, well-chosen words.
You guys are a regular Martin & Lewis!!

Pardon me for having a bit of compassion for Ms. Schiavo.

[Y-NO-9-O]

That is SOOO evident by your sensitive, well-chosen words.
You guys are a regular Martin & Lewis!!

Pardon me for having a bit of compassion for Ms. Schiavo.

ONLY

[Y-NO-9-O]

That is SOOO evident by your sensitive, well-chosen words.
You guys are a regular Martin & Lewis!!

Pardon me for having a bit of compassion for Ms. Schiavo.

ONLY

To follow up that comment: Unless YOU are personally related to either side of this family or are part of HER medical team, YOU don't know squat. You are just spouting venom and hyperbole (especially if you are an elected official). I am not saying that you do not have a right to YOUR beliefs, I am saying that you do not have a right to MY beliefs. Executing a person (with a bullet rather than removing the tube) who does not agree with your narrow view of what is the sanctity of life is not a very plausible rallying cry. That's like someone from PETA wearing leather and saying "fur hurts".

[DonnaKayDunbar]

-I wonder how many of those morons in Florida who say go ahead and KILL her are anti-death penalty. F'ING MORONS!!!!!!!!

I'm offended by this (being called a moron). As I live in Florida, I'm pro-death penalty, and I support someone's right to die.
I don't see it as murder. If she hadn't been hooked up, as the courts have said she hadn't wanted, she would have passed away long ago, with nary a blink of an eye.

[Wino you know]

To follow up that comment: Unless YOU are personally related to either side of this family or are part of HER medical team, YOU don't know squat. You are just spouting venom and hyperbole (especially if you are an elected official). I am not saying that you do not have a right to YOUR beliefs, I am saying that you do not have a right to MY beliefs. Executing a person (with a bullet rather than removing the tube) who does not agree with your narrow view of what is the sanctity of life is not a very plausible rallying cry. That's like someone from PETA wearing leather and saying "fur hurts".

And pardon me for not agreeing with YOUR narrow view of the sanctity of life.
So if Terry Schaivo should die, wouldn't it BE more humane to execute her by putting a bullet in her rather than removing her feeding tube and letting her die a slow, merciless death? Sorry, I don't think killing innocent people as a matter of convenience shows any compassion.
Her only mistake in life was choosing a scumbag for a husband. You can't tell me he isn't thinking about any financial gains he'd receive when she dies.
The c-sucker has been living with ANOTHER WOMAN for HOW many years now? And has two children by her?
Divorce her-let the PARENTS take care of her if that's what they want, and let Mr. S.O.B. go screw Little Orpan Annie, if he so choosed. It's NOT that difficult to comprehend.

No, I don't necassarily want to execute him by putting a bullet in him either, but you know what? It would really make my day to catch him driving 35 M.P.H. in a 25 M.P.H. zone in my jurisdiction.

[ragtopW]

HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!

Don't get me wrong, this is the right move. I just find it strange that the husband was absent.

If it ever came to it I'm not sure I would be brave enough
to sit vigil

just me.

[ragtopW]

BTW I am very pro death penalty and I could pull the trigger
or hit the button, knot the noose..... whatever
I just am not sure I could be there if a member of my family
needs this..



BTW what is kind of ironic in this debate are my very pro-life
mormon parents believe the plug should have been pulled a long time ago

[sonofabeach]

Michael Schiavo will not recieve one cent upon her death according to his lawyer on Greta's show just a while ago....um....for what it's worth, that is

This is a tough one, on one hand I can see where the parents are coming from, hoping for a miracle while one the other hand it's been 15 long years. When do you let go? No offense but personally I feel that slobbering on yourself while staring at the ceiling for 15 years is not life.

"i don't want to be trapped in a death bed surrounded by all of my friends"

[ejr]

HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!

Don't get me wrong, this is the right move. I just find it strange that the husband was absent.

If it ever came to it I'm not sure I would be brave enough
to sit vigil

just me.

It is just my opinion, but I would be willing to bet that the husband was strongly advised by legal counsel to not be present at the moment the tube was withdrawn (though he was there shortly afterwards). I would think the lawyer might anticipate further legal action (like a civil suit) against the husband if he was in the room at the time.

You all know where I stand on this so I won't rehash that. But the idea that Congress would try to get involved in this is so offensive and inappropriate to me! I'm not sure how anyone can justify that!

[Tiki Bar]

Some of us need to ease back on the throttle a little bit. I realize this is a touchy subject, with 2 clear sides, neither one right or wrong. Ethical dilemmas such as this are very personal, and it's probably good people are passionate in their beliefs.

Either way - they can be expressed more calmly. And if they can't, please insert emoticons in place of some of the harsh verbage - I'm pretty sure everyone will still get the message.

Thank you.

[ph4ever]

All the arguing and bickering amongst us is not helping our relationship with each other here on the board and it's certainly not helping Terri.

The fact of the matter is this is completely out of OUR hands. If you really want to do something for Terri pray for her. Call your State represenatives if you are against this. How many of you that are spewing forth your anger and hostitalities over this issue actually doing something besides blowing hot air?? How many have actually looked up the contact information for your respective state represenatives and called to voice your opinion where it truly matters?

The one thing I'm against is the government stepping into any person's life on such a private issue. I'm afraid that this will set a precident allowing the government to eventually have a greater control over our everyday lives. What will be next?? Will the government step in and stop the artificial life means of a person with a living will? And if that happens who is responsible for the very expensive medical bills? Will it be the insurance companies causing everyone's ever rising insurance costs to go up?? Will it be the government should they step in to halt any right to die? Will the families be left devistated over huge medical costs?

How many here want a politician that has never met you and basically only looks at you as a vote to decide on your right to live with artifical aid or the right to die? The way I look at it if someone has never spoke to me, dosn't know me from squat why should they decide right to live or right to die if I'm in such a state and have made it clear to ANYONE my decision to be removed from life support.

[kitty]

well said, Connie!

[LIPH]

When I was in law school we saw a film about a case similar to this. I can't remember the woman's name but a group of outsiders tried to inject themselves into the controversy by getting a court order to prevent the family from removing the feeding tube. They kept referring to the patient as "my friend". After we saw the film the professor had us write a short paper about it. Here's what I said, and it isn't a direct quote because I'm going from memory, it was 12 years ago:
Did they know what kind of music their "friend" liked?
Did they know their "friend's" favorite color?
Did they know when their "friend's" birthday was?
Did they know what kind of clothes their "friend" liked to wear?
Did they know what their "friend's" dream job was?
Did they know what their "friend" wanted to do with her life?
If they can't answer everyone one of those questions it's time to shut up and butt out because what happens is none of their business.

[DonnaKayDunbar]

I just think its scary to give the government that much control over the lives of the people.

"Land of the free" my a$$.

I don't want the government in my bedroom or my hospital room.

These bills that are being pushed and shoved and passed in the middle of the night appear fishy to me.
For instance, the one that they tried to pass to keep feeding/watering an incapacitated person without a written directive... what about people (like myself) who have no family? What would my fate have been if I wasn't with Ted, I was alone with no family - if something this tragic happened to me, at my young age without written directive, would the government be so apt to shove a tube down my thoat?

What's next?

[meisinger]

I just think its scary to give the government that much control over the lives of the people.

"Land of the free" my a$$.

I don't want the government in my bedroom or my hospital room.

These bills that are being pushed and shoved and passed in the middle of the night appear fishy to me.
For instance, the one that they tried to pass to keep feeding/watering an incapacitated person without a written directive... what about people (like myself) who have no family? What would my fate have been if I wasn't with Ted, I was alone with no family - if something this tragic happened to me, at my young age without written directive, would the government be so apt to shove a tube down my thoat?

What's next?

I love the voice of reason. Thank you.

[LIPH]

I don't want the government in my bedroom

I don't know, Hillary's pretty hot. just kidding, I wouldn't do her with someone else's unit and 3 guys pushing from behind

[DonnaKayDunbar]

just kidding, I wouldn't do her with someone else's unit and 3 guys pushing from behind

[a1aara]

Saturday marked the 2 year anniversary for the war in Iraq.

I'm just gald that the Congress and the Senate knows what is important.
The president is ending one of his many vacations to return to DC to play politics. Hopefully our Gov't will continue to slash away at our personal freedoms, and also stop those Damn Major league Baseball players from taking steriods.

We lost a service man in Iraq yesterday. Where is the outrage from our elected officials over his death?