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Lawmakers Widen Schiavo Right-To-Die Fight

Posted: March 18, 2005 12:08 pm
by a1aara
Lawmakers Widen Schiavo Right-To-Die Fight


PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - As a deadline loomed, U.S. Senate Republicans sought to keep severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo alive Friday with an invitation to bring her to Washington, and an attorney for her parents said they hoped the move would buy them more time.

The Senate Health Committee has requested that Terri Schiavo and her husband, Michael, appear at an official committee hearing on March 28. Earlier Friday, a House committee was issuing congressional subpoenas to stop doctors from disconnecting the tube.

U.S. marshals were planning to serve subpoenas at Terri Schiavo's hospice on Friday, according to marshals spokeswoman Lisa Alfonso.

Michael Schiavo has waged a yearslong court battle with his parents-in-law, contending his 41-year-old wife, who has been in a persistent vegetative state since 1990, would not want to live that way.


Courts have cleared the way for him to remove her feeding tube as early as 1 p.m. Friday. The tube has been removed twice in the past and then reinserted as the battle continued.

"It is a contempt of Congress to prevent or discourage someone from following the subpoena that's been issued," David Gibbs, the attorney for her parents, said. "What the U.S. Congress is saying is, 'We want to see Terri Schiavo.'"

"The family is prayerfully excited about their daughter going before the United States Congress for the whole world to see how alive she is."

He said that despite her brain damage, she would be able to travel. A statement from the office of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., on Friday said the purpose of the hearing was to review health care policies and practices relevant to the care of non-ambulatory people.

Frist's statement noted that it is a federal crime to harm or obstruct a person called to testify before Congress.

Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Florida office, said his group's attorneys were working with Michael Schiavo's attorneys to determine if the subpoenas would block the scheduled removal of the tube.

"This is clearly an effort to circumvent a lawful court order by a state judge," Simon said. "I am not sure how a subpoena, which is ordinarily done to produce records or somebody to testify, can essentially have the effect of an injunction overriding the orders of a court."

Terri Schiavo's father, Bob Schindler, went into the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park at about 9:30 a.m. to visit his daughter. Outside, about three dozen people prayed and wept.

"What can wash away our sins? Nothing but the blood of Jesus," they sang. Messages on protest signs included "Impeach Greer.com," a reference to a judge in the case, and "Execution - It's Not Just for the Guilty Anymore."

In Tallahassee, the Florida House on Thursday passed a bill 78-37 to block the withholding of food and water from patients in a persistent vegetative state who did not leave specific instructions regarding their care. But hours later, the Senate defeated a different measure 21-16. The sponsor of another state Senate didn't bring it for a vote because it didn't have enough support.

Gibbs also has said he would ask a federal judge in Tampa to block the removal and review the actions of state courts. Such habeas corpus appeals seek to require the government to justify its actions.

As part of the last-minute flurry of activity, the Florida judge who approved the withdrawal of the feeding tube denied a request from the state to keep her alive. The state appealed that decision to the Florida Supreme Court, which promptly dismissed it. The U.S. Supreme Court also denied another appeal.

At the White House, President Bush left little doubt where he stands, saying, "those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern." His brother, Gov. Jeb Bush, long has supported the parents' efforts and urged lawmakers to act before it was too late.

Schiavo suffered severe brain damage in 1990 when her heart stopped because of a chemical imbalance, and court-appointed doctors say she is in a persistent vegetative state. Her husband says she told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents dispute that, and say she could get better.

Posted: March 18, 2005 3:56 pm
by Mr Play
Whatever happens to her, I hope it is what she would truly want.

Posted: March 18, 2005 4:33 pm
by Lightning Bolt
So they've removed the feeding tube.

We have to assume, by her husband's actions and with the agreement of numerous court's judgements, that this is the CORRECT course of action.
We, as obtrusive bystanders, really have NO RIGHT to stand in their way.
This happens to others EVERY DAY, with no documentation or news coverage, and this is a personal freedom that has been protected.

Not saying it is FAIR (when has life ever been always fair?). It is a sad, sad, melancholy moment that Mrs. Schiavo moves toward. It should have been allowed much sooner.

But, it is a victory for each American's right to personal freedom, and this is the cornerstone of what we pride about being citizens of America.

This is a right that you will not celebrate.

Posted: March 18, 2005 4:57 pm
by PHBeerman
I think if steps were being taken to end my wife's life, I think I would be present.



Her husband was not.

Posted: March 18, 2005 4:58 pm
by Wino you know
HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!

Posted: March 18, 2005 5:22 pm
by ph4ever
Lightning Bolt wrote:So they've removed the feeding tube.

We have to assume, by her husband's actions and with the agreement of numerous court's judgements, that this is the CORRECT course of action.
We, as obtrusive bystanders, really have NO RIGHT to stand in their way.
This happens to others EVERY DAY, with no documentation or news coverage, and this is a personal freedom that has been protected.

Not saying it is FAIR (when has life ever been always fair?). It is a sad, sad, melancholy moment that Mrs. Schiavo moves toward. It should have been allowed much sooner.

But, it is a victory for each American's right to personal freedom, and this is the cornerstone of what we pride about being citizens of America.

This is a right that you will not celebrate.
Very Well said!!

Posted: March 18, 2005 5:26 pm
by big hat carmen
Hopefully, Terri can rest in peace.

Posted: March 18, 2005 5:33 pm
by PHBeerman
Wino you know wrote:HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!
Don't get me wrong, this is the right move. I just find it strange that the husband was absent.

Posted: March 18, 2005 5:37 pm
by ph4ever
PHBeerman wrote:
Wino you know wrote:HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!
Don't get me wrong, this is the right move. I just find it strange that the husband was absent.

I'm not going to try to second guess why. Everyone grieves in their own way. Or perhaps in his mind she was gone years ago. :-?

Posted: March 18, 2005 5:43 pm
by IsleReef
PHBeerman wrote:
Wino you know wrote:HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!
Don't get me wrong, this is the right move. I just find it strange that the husband was absent.
Yeah, the scum bag was playing with himself thinking of the inheritence money................ The great state of Florida murdered this poor woman. Her parents are willing to care for her, but this douche bag p**** of a husband is just after the $$$$................ Someone should put a bullet in his head and I hope someone does...................... No offense Troy, I love ya like a bro, but wrong move on this one............... This is a very sad & tragic form of murder................... Freaking convicted criminals have a better chance in this pathetic country that allows a judge to over rule congress and let her feeding tube be removed............... She was not in as vegative of a state that her ass hole husband claims & was able to recognize her parents.................... This is nothing but murder and it is sickening............................ :evil:

Posted: March 18, 2005 5:45 pm
by IsleReef
Putting my dog down years ago was more humane than this............

Posted: March 18, 2005 5:48 pm
by ph4ever
IsleReef wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:
Wino you know wrote:HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!
Don't get me wrong, this is the right move. I just find it strange that the husband was absent.
Yeah, the scum bag was playing with himself thinking of the inheritence money................ The great state of Florida murdered this poor woman. Her parents are willing to care for her, but this douche bag p**** of a husband is just after the $$$$................ Someone should put a bullet in his head and I hope someone does...................... No offense Troy, I love ya like a bro, but wrong move on this one............... This is a very sad & tragic form of murder................... Freaking convicted criminals have a better chance in this pathetic country that allows a judge to over rule congress and let her feeding tube be removed............... She was not in as vegative of a state that her ass hole husband claims & was able to recognize her parents.................... This is nothing but murder and it is sickening............................ :evil:

DAMNIT VINNIE. Everyone was being calm and respectful. We've already had the DEBATE over this and the thread got killed because of all the argueing. Can't we just let the woman pass IN PEACE

Posted: March 18, 2005 6:13 pm
by ches4me
after listening to a radio program yesterday talking about this case. I changed my mind. here some of the info they were talking about. They said that she sits up and smiles, she has never been into rehabilitation. only laying in a hospice waiting to die.

Her husband sued and recieved 2-1/2 million dollars, to take care of her future expenses. and 4 months after he got the money, he began the fight to stop her food and water. Death by starvation is one of the cruelest ways to die.
Terri Schievo of Florida will be put to death, legally, by her husband. As her legal guardian, he says she didn't want to live under life support systems. but, She is only on food and water, not life support. Over 2 million dollars has been raised to try to save her.

He currently lives with another woman and has fathered her two children. ........

Seems like he just wants to go on with his life with his wife and "kids" and get her out of the way.

Posted: March 18, 2005 6:18 pm
by IsleReef
Like I said, putting my dog down was more humane............. Ya know how I feel now, so I'm done........................

Posted: March 18, 2005 6:23 pm
by Wino you know
IsleReef wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:
Wino you know wrote:HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!
Don't get me wrong, this is the right move. I just find it strange that the husband was absent.
Yeah, the scum bag was playing with himself thinking of the inheritence money................ The great state of Florida murdered this poor woman. Her parents are willing to care for her, but this douche bag p**** of a husband is just after the $$$$................ Someone should put a bullet in his head and I hope someone does...................... No offense Troy, I love ya like a bro, but wrong move on this one............... This is a very sad & tragic form of murder................... Freaking convicted criminals have a better chance in this pathetic country that allows a judge to over rule congress and let her feeding tube be removed............... She was not in as vegative of a state that her ass hole husband claims & was able to recognize her parents.................... This is nothing but murder and it is sickening............................ :evil:
Do me a favor, okay, Vinnie?
Run for office someday so I CAN VOTE FOR YOU!!!

That post of yours should be labled POST OF THE YEAR!
It's nice to know I'm not the only one who respects the sanctity of life. You're absolutey right-I wonder how many of those morons in Florida who say go ahead and KILL her are anti-death penalty. F'ING MORONS!!!!!!!!
ROT IN HELL, MICHAEL SCHIAVO, YOU M.F. MORON S.O.B.!!!
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Posted: March 18, 2005 6:33 pm
by IsleReef
Wino you know wrote:
IsleReef wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:
Wino you know wrote:HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!
Don't get me wrong, this is the right move. I just find it strange that the husband was absent.
Yeah, the scum bag was playing with himself thinking of the inheritence money................ The great state of Florida murdered this poor woman. Her parents are willing to care for her, but this douche bag p**** of a husband is just after the $$$$................ Someone should put a bullet in his head and I hope someone does...................... No offense Troy, I love ya like a bro, but wrong move on this one............... This is a very sad & tragic form of murder................... Freaking convicted criminals have a better chance in this pathetic country that allows a judge to over rule congress and let her feeding tube be removed............... She was not in as vegative of a state that her ass hole husband claims & was able to recognize her parents.................... This is nothing but murder and it is sickening............................ :evil:
Do me a favor, okay, Vinnie?
Run for office someday so I CAN VOTE FOR YOU!!!

That post of yours should be labled POST OF THE YEAR!
It's nice to know I'm not the only one who respects the sanctity of life. You're absolutey right-I wonder how many of those morons in Florida who say go ahead and KILL her are anti-death penalty. F'ING MORONS!!!!!!!!
ROT IN HELL, MICHAEL SCHIAVO, YOU M.F. MORON S.O.B.!!!
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Thankyou for the compliment.............. I am a devote pro-lifer and proud of it. (I hope you guys can respect that and still love me) I am not open to debate on the subject as there is no reason to pick a fight. I am no angel in my moral values at times, but you've gotta admit it when something is wrong........... Would this be your mother, sister, daughter, niece or friend, I honestly can not comprehend any way you could justify this? This is in God's hands and may he bless her. For those of you who object, sorry............ Don't judge & you won't be judged...... Just know when wrong is wrong................ This is wrong.

Posted: March 18, 2005 6:46 pm
by Wino you know
Thanks, Vinnie. It's very refreshing to know there are people like you around. I'm also a devout pro-lifer, proud of it, and couldn't CARE LESS if I'm loved or hated for my beliefs. Whatever. The fact is, to me life-ALL LIFE-means something.
I agree with you, we PROBABLY shouldn't be so judgemental lest we be judged ourselves, but it's very hard NOT to judge the rotten S.O.B. husband in this case.
You're right on the money-THIS IS WRONG!

Posted: March 18, 2005 6:57 pm
by IsleReef
Wino you know wrote:Thanks, Vinnie. It's very refreshing to know there are people like you around. I'm also a devout pro-lifer, proud of it, and couldn't CARE LESS if I'm loved or hated for my beliefs. Whatever. The fact is, to me life-ALL LIFE-means something.
I agree with you, we PROBABLY shouldn't be so judgemental lest we be judged ourselves, but it's very hard NOT to judge the rotten S.O.B. husband in this case.
You're right on the money-THIS IS WRONG!

Peace & Fins Up Bro........................ Even Jimmy's music is not about this......... It is much more about LIVING & LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink:

Posted: March 18, 2005 7:01 pm
by Wino you know
Peace to you too, Vinnie.
I suppose I CAN take some comfort in Jimmy's music, as you say. I can also pray, and I can also cry.

Posted: March 18, 2005 9:21 pm
by Y-NO-9-O
Wino you know wrote:
IsleReef wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:
Wino you know wrote:HER HUSBAND IS AN A.S.S.HOLE!!!
Don't get me wrong, this is the right move. I just find it strange that the husband was absent.
Yeah, the scum bag was playing with himself thinking of the inheritence money................ The great state of Florida murdered this poor woman. Her parents are willing to care for her, but this douche bag p**** of a husband is just after the $$$$................ Someone should put a bullet in his head and I hope someone does...................... No offense Troy, I love ya like a bro, but wrong move on this one............... This is a very sad & tragic form of murder................... Freaking convicted criminals have a better chance in this pathetic country that allows a judge to over rule congress and let her feeding tube be removed............... She was not in as vegative of a state that her ass hole husband claims & was able to recognize her parents.................... This is nothing but murder and it is sickening............................ :evil:
Do me a favor, okay, Vinnie?
Run for office someday so I CAN VOTE FOR YOU!!!

That post of yours should be labled POST OF THE YEAR!
It's nice to know I'm not the only one who respects the sanctity of life. You're absolutey right-I wonder how many of those morons in Florida who say go ahead and KILL her are anti-death penalty. F'ING MORONS!!!!!!!!
ROT IN HELL, MICHAEL SCHIAVO, YOU M.F. MORON S.O.B.!!!
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
You both are. Get a room!