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Minimum Lead Time for Ticket Sales??

Posted: March 21, 2005 3:10 pm
by Quiet and Shy
Anyone have any insight into this? Indy ticket sales are rumored to be next Monday morning and here we are less than a week out with no official confirmation anywhere. :-? (...and I've got things to organize and figure out...ah, the stress...)

-- a puzzled parrothead

Posted: March 21, 2005 3:26 pm
by ejr
The Great Woods tickets seemed to go on sale with less advance notice than usual---which might explain why a number of people felt that it was much easier to get tickets this time.

Posted: March 21, 2005 3:46 pm
by jiggs(2)
ejr wrote:The Great Woods tickets seemed to go on sale with less advance notice than usual---which might explain why a number of people felt that it was much easier to get tickets this time.
not sure who controls this, ticketmaster or the venue...2 weeks back U2 tickets in chicago went onsale with less than 36 hours notice...it was sometime thursday night they announced an onsale date of that saturday at 10...

Posted: March 21, 2005 5:04 pm
by Ilph
Maybe this is happening with pressure from the artists. It seems that this would give the fans a better chance of getting to the tickets before scalpers and brokers. Just a thought.

Posted: March 22, 2005 12:35 am
by ejr
Ilph wrote:Maybe this is happening with pressure from the artists. It seems that this would give the fans a better chance of getting to the tickets before scalpers and brokers. Just a thought.
I can guarantee you that scalpers and brokers always know about this stuff.. The place I used to go to for tickets had a person from a local broker who was always there, and I would always carry on a conversation with him (to see what info I could get) and would learn about lots of concert dates for lots of artists, and none of them had been publicized anywhere. They always have the inside news.

The people it is likely to hurt are the fans that are not tuned in to things like buffettnews (and how can they really call themselves fans?) who rely on newspaper ads and radio hyping for their info.

Posted: March 22, 2005 9:14 am
by cartmill72
ejr wrote:The people it is likely to hurt are the fans that are not tuned in to things like buffettnews (and how can they really call themselves fans?) who rely on newspaper ads and radio hyping for their info.
I was thinking about this the other evening. Think about it, though. BN has less than 10,000 registered users. And there's probably another 10,000 or so that just drop in from time to time. All said, that's only 20,000 potential people hitting this site in a month (I don't know how many hits BN gets, but I'm guessing).

So, if there are 20,000 people here, that's less than the capacity of some of the venues. That means there are hundreds of thousands of fans out there who don't know about or use BN, Buffett World, etc.

My dad is the perfect example. He's a huge Buffett fan. He's been a fan since the 70s. But he's never visited BN in his life. Okay, maybe once or twice if I've made him look at something.


And, by the way, yes, scalpers/brokers know about the dates of the shows LONG before we ever know.

Posted: March 22, 2005 11:06 am
by ejr
cartmill-when I used to go wait in line for tickets, I would talk to folks (you never know when someone is going to help you out). I never met anyone there who had heard of buffettnews. Many don't even know about margaritaville.com! Nor did others I know who are Buffett fans. Many just rely on radio and TV for their concert updates.

Posted: March 22, 2005 12:15 pm
by jimsig
jiggs(2) wrote: not sure who controls this, ticketmaster or the venue...2 weeks back U2 tickets in chicago went onsale with less than 36 hours notice...it was sometime thursday night they announced an onsale date of that saturday at 10...
In Boston back in 87 when U2 toured the local radio stations said there would be a big announcement at 230pm. The announcement was that tickets would go onsale at 3p. It was crazy. Lots of stories about poeple driving around to find an ATM then a ticket outlet, ducking out of work early etc. I heard it driving home from school, luckly it was easy to convince Dad to use his credit card. After while of dialing I finally got through. A friend was at Sears and they were printing tickets in sets of 2, 3, 4, etc. you would tell them how may you wanted pay the guy, get a slip of paper with the number of tickets you wanted, move down the line pick em up.

This U2 tour was announced on Sunday night the 6th to Fan Club members. Some of the shows went on sale the 12th and others the 19th. The fan club presale started on Tue of each week. Sat was the public onsale. It was funny to read in the paper on Tue that it was rumored that U2 was going to be back in Oct for some shows, knowing that I was going to get them in the presale that day.

Posted: March 22, 2005 1:22 pm
by blackjack
In Philly, we had the word about the pre-sale a little in advance (via an e-mail) and the general tickets were only announced sometime the week before. So yes, he's definitely giving shorter notice. But then making us wait longer for the concert! 5 months and 5 days to Philly! :pirate:

Posted: March 22, 2005 1:22 pm
by citcat
ejr wrote:The Great Woods tickets seemed to go on sale with less advance notice than usual---which might explain why a number of people felt that it was much easier to get tickets this time.
We can only hope this is so. For me, having a shorter time to worry, panic, and have intestines that turn to ice water every hour or so may be better for my health. The last time I bought tickets, I was almost insane with fear of not getting any (tickets! :lol: ) and that was in 2002, the last time Jimmy came to Nashville. :evil: I DO think it cuts down on the people who only want to come to a concert because they've heard about the partying, and only want to get so drunk they pukevomitspew and pass out and be rude.

Posted: March 22, 2005 1:37 pm
by PalmettoSon
It seems to me that you can't get around the scalpers getting at least a portion of the tix. Personally, I think that there should be a minumum of two weeks between the announcement of the concert and the on sale date.
My ideal situation is this:

Event announced no less than three months before it occurs.

With announcement comes breakdown of ticket prices so fans know what they are going to have to shell out.

No more than 45 days and no less than 15 days after the announcement of the event date and price schedule tickets go on sale with sale date announced 2-5 days in advance.

That way everyone who's interested knows it's coming, how much it'll cost and roughly when it'll go onsale, but the actual time frame is still vague enough to make sure that the most interested get in there first.

Just how I would do it.