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Nobody asked me but....

Posted: April 7, 2005 10:59 pm
by Ilph
From CMT.com

NASHVILLE SKYLINE: Nobody Asked Me, But ...
The Good and the Bad About Contemporary Country Music

By: Chet Flippo

NASHVILLE SKYLINE is a column by CMT/CMT.com Editorial Director Chet Flippo.)

Some things I don't like about current country music:

• Songwriters, radio people, label executives and artists who prattle on endlessly about how the beauty and unique appeal of country music lies in its ability to tell stories in songs -- and then who keep on writing and producing and releasing and hyping an endless array of meaningless greeting card songs. If I want a greeting card, I'll go to a Hallmark store, thank you very much. I want some country music on my radio stations.

• Country music executives throwing around the new buzzword "monetize." Monetize, a new code word, as in how to soak the public for more money in ever more innovative ways. How about more ways to improve the music instead?

• Country business people throwing around the term "the next Gretchen Wilson" in hyping the hastily assembled new crop of young female country hopefuls during the recent Country Radio Seminar. Before Gretchen Wilson hit out of nowhere last year, she was not being hyped as the next new anything. She hit because she was making music the audience was starved to hear. Look for that, people in the country music industry, instead of looking for the next new anything.

• Record label people who defend buying No. 1 hits through subsidized airplay at radio -- as if artificially pushing a song to No. 1 on the country charts is a good and natural thing.

• Record labels that neglect and ignore their catalog of classic recordings. This is a national heritage that is gradually being lost as masters are misplaced, mislabeled, lost or discarded.

Some things I do like about current country music:

• Satellite radio. More about this later because I just got satellite and am now listening. But I can already see its influence spreading. For one thing, some mainstream country radio stations are broadening and expanding their narrow playlists to go beyond that to include "anything country." The new "Hank" station lineup, as with WENS in Indianapolis (which is now "97.1 Hank FM"), is a direct result of satellite's appeal to listeners. And Mojo Nixon makes great sense as an Outlaw country DJ on satellite.

• Friends of country music such as the great soul singer Solomon Burke, who still remind us of how soulful and real country music is capable of being. Listen to Burke delivering the very heartfelt emotion Hank Williams put into his composition "Wealth Won't Save Your Soul" on Burke's new CD Make Do With What You Got. You will feel better about everything as a result. Solomon Burke is a greater country singer than a number of charting country singers you and I can name today.

• Taking chances on unproven new young artists such as Blaine Larsen. When he was still in high school, Blaine came by to sing for a bunch of us in the office, and we were very impressed by his potential. I'm glad that Joe Galante at BNA believed in him enough to give him a shot.

• Similarly, Tim DuBois and Tony Brown at Universal South believed enough in Shooter Jennings to give him a chance. Good.

• Gamblers like John Grady at Sony Music Nashville, who has seen his risks on unknowns Gretchen Wilson and Miranda Lambert pay off with immediate audience success.

• Indie labels like Rounder, Koch, Dualtone, Sugar Hill, Vanguard and others who are enriching the mix of artists and music available to listeners. As consolidation of the big labels further shrinks the window of opportunity for new artists, the indies remain a shining path for some. Craig Morgan's No. 1 success for Broken Bow Records proves the commercial viability of such ventures.

• Record labels that honor the heritage of American music and preserve it for generations to come. Sony's Legacy Recordings series is especially to be commended for consistently issuing a series of intelligently complied and packaged reissues, often including previously unreleased material. Coming up in future weeks from Legacy are special releases on Johnny Cash, June Carter Cash and the largely forgotten Charlie Poole.

Posted: April 7, 2005 11:07 pm
by Pirate Lookin' at 40
The problem is that country music is a machine now. It's big business. People like Merle Haggard, Don Williams, Vern Gosdin and Conway Twitty would not have a prayer of making it if they were just starting out today. There is something very very wrong with that.

Posted: April 7, 2005 11:26 pm
by ragtopW
I know that Reckless Kelly have been doing well at some of the "Events"
but no real love..

I miss the OLD days of radio. when the DJ.. was half in the bag
most of the time..

from one thing or another.. :D

Posted: April 8, 2005 12:36 am
by sonofabeach
sounds like more doomsday preachin'
The sky is not falling

Posted: April 8, 2005 9:27 am
by Cubbie Bear
The problem with country radio is that too many country fans are lemmings. The clear channel country station here, has a Top 20 play list plus "selected classics" (translated, last months hit) and it has been the number one station in the area for almost 20 years straight.

For the last year we had a breath of fresh air when a station went to a "Classic Country" format. True, some of the 60's twang stuff was a little much for me, but it was so good to hear Waylon, Willie, Merle, Dolly, Clint,
and so much of the music that made me a country fan in the late 70's and early 80's.

Monday morning I woke up to "The River--Today's Country Hits" all automated, no feel what so ever.

Guess its back to the vinyl pile

Posted: April 8, 2005 7:18 pm
by Pirate Lookin' at 40
sonofabeach wrote:sounds like more doomsday preachin'
The sky is not falling
Actually SOB, where Country music is concerned, the sky fell long ago.

Posted: April 8, 2005 10:26 pm
by a1aara
A friend from another list was complaining about the same thing. I thought it would go well here:


Dear folks,

A few weeks ago, due to my broken vehicle cd player and resultant radio frustration, I was compelled by some unknown, but irresistable force to write a bitterly sarcastic typical Nashville country hit. Unfortunately, on the way to work today I heard one of my recent musical heroes, Keith Urban, singing almost that exact stupid song, in demographically-driven intent anyhow, on the radio. Man. I know the girls love Keith Urban. And I know he wants to be a success after stumbling through the dives for years and years. But really, Keith, give me a break.

If you think you have the stomach for it, check the lyrics online to "You Can't Hide Beautiful". One of the most transparent efforts of all time to sell records to a target demographic. Even for mainstream country. I thought I was kidding in that stupid song I wrote. Apparently I was not.

Excuse me. I have to go take something for this saccharine headache I've somehow developed.

Disgustedly yours,

Fern

Posted: April 10, 2005 2:17 pm
by Ilph
ragtopW wrote:I miss the OLD days of radio. when the DJ.. was half in the bag
most of the time..
Or at least had a say so in what they were playing...

Posted: April 10, 2005 2:27 pm
by ragtopW
Ilph wrote:
ragtopW wrote:I miss the OLD days of radio. when the DJ.. was half in the bag
most of the time..
Or at least had a say so in what they were playing...
yes the program director had a list he would like to hear..
once in a while.. :D

Posted: April 10, 2005 2:34 pm
by RinglingRingling
Ilph wrote:
ragtopW wrote:I miss the OLD days of radio. when the DJ.. was half in the bag
most of the time..
Or at least had a say so in what they were playing...
and the local weather sounded like the DJ stuck his head out the window to check, rather than an automated feed from The Weather Channel?

Posted: April 10, 2005 2:46 pm
by ragtopW
RinglingRingling wrote:
Ilph wrote:
ragtopW wrote:I miss the OLD days of radio. when the DJ.. was half in the bag
most of the time..
Or at least had a say so in what they were playing...
and the local weather sounded like the DJ stuck his head out the window to check, rather than an automated feed from The Weather Channel?
or he called his wife and asked her.. :D :D

or just asked the last person to enter the building.. :D

Posted: April 10, 2005 2:47 pm
by RinglingRingling
ragtopW wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
Ilph wrote:
ragtopW wrote:I miss the OLD days of radio. when the DJ.. was half in the bag
most of the time..
Or at least had a say so in what they were playing...
and the local weather sounded like the DJ stuck his head out the window to check, rather than an automated feed from The Weather Channel?
or he called his wife and asked her.. :D :D
You listened to KOVC, 1450 on the radio dial, #1 in your hearts didn't you? :D

Posted: April 10, 2005 3:18 pm
by ragtopW
RinglingRingling wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
Ilph wrote:
ragtopW wrote:I miss the OLD days of radio. when the DJ.. was half in the bag
most of the time..
Or at least had a say so in what they were playing...
and the local weather sounded like the DJ stuck his head out the window to check, rather than an automated feed from The Weather Channel?
or he called his wife and asked her.. :D :D
You listened to KOVC, 1440 on the radio dial, #1 in your hearts didn't you? :D
Nope KFRC 610 best in the Bay!!!!

Posted: April 10, 2005 3:20 pm
by RinglingRingling
ragtopW wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
Ilph wrote:
ragtopW wrote:I miss the OLD days of radio. when the DJ.. was half in the bag
most of the time..
Or at least had a say so in what they were playing...
and the local weather sounded like the DJ stuck his head out the window to check, rather than an automated feed from The Weather Channel?
or he called his wife and asked her.. :D :D
You listened to KOVC, 1450 on the radio dial, #1 in your hearts didn't you? :D


Nope KFRC 610 best in the Bay!!!!
AM radio... damn I miss that.

Posted: April 10, 2005 3:26 pm
by ragtopW
yep. the playlist went kind of like this

Kiss,Elton John, Doobie Brothers, OHW, Charlie Daniels,Beatles,
ZEP,OHW,Tower of Power,OHW,Alice Cooper,Rod Stewart,OHW
OHW, Linda Ronstat,Spinners,Chilights<Stylistics,OHW,OHW,
Eagles,War,OHW,CharliePride, CW Mcall,OHW,OHW :D :D
feel free to mix and match
BTW

OHW= One Hit Wonder :D

Posted: April 10, 2005 3:32 pm
by RinglingRingling
ragtopW wrote:yep. the playlist went kind of like this

Kiss,Elton John, Doobie Brothers, OHW, Charlie Daniels,Beatles,
ZEP,OHW,Tower of Power,OHW,Alice Cooper,Rod Stewart,OHW
OHW, Linda Ronstat,Spinners,Chilights<Stylistics,OHW,OHW,
Eagles,War,OHW,CharliePride, CW Mcall,OHW,OHW :D :D
feel free to mix and match
BTW

OHW= One Hit Wonder :D

I am thinking you were a little light on the OHW and a tad heavy on the Charley Pride

Posted: April 10, 2005 3:46 pm
by 12vmanRick
My #1 problem with country music right now is all the religious overtones I hear in recent country music songs. If I want to hear beer drinking, hell rasin' people sing about Jesus I will go to a Baptist church on Sunday morning.

I want country music to get back to Straight Tequila Nights, Tear(s) In My Beer and songs about mama and trucks and stuff..

and OH YEA, I surely don't have a problem with a "country island" style so keep it up Kenny and others that have thrown a few in the mix.

Posted: April 10, 2005 4:14 pm
by ragtopW
RinglingRingling wrote:
ragtopW wrote:yep. the playlist went kind of like this

Kiss,Elton John, Doobie Brothers, OHW, Charlie Daniels,Beatles,
ZEP,OHW,Tower of Power,OHW,Alice Cooper,Rod Stewart,OHW
OHW, Linda Ronstat,Spinners,Chilights<Stylistics,OHW,OHW,
Eagles,War,OHW,CharliePride, CW Mcall,OHW,OHW :D :D
feel free to mix and match
BTW

OHW= One Hit Wonder :D

I am thinking you were a little light on the OHW and a tad heavy on the Charley Pride
really they played country I still don't care for all of the songBut Behind Closed Doors, Happiest girl in the Whole Wide world, the most beautiful
girl, Uneasy Rider, and more

Oh I did forget some Outlaws,PPL and, Southern Rock was also played..

That station was great..
and a large reason that I have a wide range..

Posted: April 10, 2005 4:23 pm
by Crazy Navy Flyer
I quit liking coutry when they quit playing Hank Jr, Haggard, Cash, Willie, Waylon and the Boys, Conway, Don Williams and a few others.

I think of today's country as Hollywood country, mush for the masses.

Posted: April 10, 2005 4:31 pm
by RinglingRingling
Crazy Navy Flyer wrote:I quit liking coutry when they quit playing Hank Jr, Haggard, Cash, Willie, Waylon and the Boys, Conway, Don Williams and a few others.

I think of today's country as Hollywood country, mush for the masses.
There is something intrinsically wrong with Keith Urban being a US C&W singer..