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Posted: **April 14, 2005 10:50 am**

ph4ever wrote:
Sam wrote:
ph4ever wrote:ok I'll even go one step further. As I was reading thru this thread someone mentioned that others are not happy with the prices this year. Show your faces!!! It's obvious the man reads or has people who report to him what's going on here. Are y'all to chicken to speak up and say Geez dude you're making it real tough for those of us that have been here all these years to even see one show now. Step up to the plate people or are you too afraid to p*** Jimmy off??

I posted earlier that "People aren't attacking him because he doesn't want to spend his money on Buffett. (There are lots of people on this board who feel that these concerts are getting too pricey and are re-prioritizing)."

You asked us to stand-up and I am here to pronouce that I too agree that the tickets cost too much this summer (especially since I was able to get JT tickets for $20)!

This will be the first summer in 4-5 years that my freinds and I will only see Jimmy once. But we all agree that the one day is well worth the expense!

However, I stand by my feelings that the initial post went too far when he linked Child Molestation with Public Schools.

This was an offensive and absorb coment and has no place on this message board and did not belong in the initial post.

If the writer would have only stated that the tickets are too much and that he'd rather spend his money on his kid's education I think that most of us would agree. Leave it at that, but don't make ignorant comments! That is why he is being attacked!

As for the spelling, I do agree, there is no need to rip into someone's spelling when posting. We all make mistakes with grammer and spelling when replying to a post or writing an e-mail.

Posted: **April 14, 2005 10:54 am**

Sam wrote:
LIPH wrote:
Sam wrote:BTW had a friend at the concert in Jax..... he wentout to get something and they would NOT let him back in and he had his ticket stub with him thinking that was all he needed............ they refused to let him back in!
That's the rule in every venue I've ever been to - you leave, you're history.
Larry,
I dunno what he was going out after,... I usually check with the person on the gate and if they say no, okies,...but I think it should be made clear BEFORE one enters..... and I think it was Karma or Fate or God(s) or Winds of Change or what have you watching out over him that blessed him with a better seat.

Sam --
I didn't notice it in JAX but a lot of venues have signs that say NO RE-ENTRY at all entrances.

Posted: **April 14, 2005 10:54 am**

LIPH wrote:Connie --
I'm not trying to get into a p*** contest here, but every show still sells out so I would respectfully suggest your opinion is the minority on this one.

and that's fine I can accept that - but his concerts were also selling out 10 years ago when the prices were lower. Too bad those of us that don't make high dollar salaries don't matter anywhere anymore.

Posted: **April 14, 2005 11:02 am**

ph4ever wrote:PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE SOME OF YOU THAT JUMP ON THE BAND WAGON ABOUT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM COMPLAIN ABOUT A THREAD BEING HIJACKED BY THE BN BLACK SHEEP - WELCOME TO THE BLACK SHEEP CLUB

Ok now that I have your attention and possibly p*** some of you off the fact of the matter (and the apparent gist of ABF's initial post) is the cost of attending a Buffett concert is simply outrageous!!!! When ticket prices more that double in one year for some areas SOMETHING HAS GOT TO GIVE. Geez he's always thanking us parrotheads that gave him his sumer job for 30 years. Wow what a way to thank us - select venues to play at where ticket prices are so outrageous we can't even attend a show. People realize some of us are being f*cked royally this year. Hell the ticket prices I saw for Philly are more than what I paid for the freaking hotel for Nissan last year. For years I've said that if I attend but one concert a year it's going to be Buffett. Well I'm now looking into other performers because Buffett obviously dosn't give a rat's ass about the "little man" that helped put him where he is today.

I DON'T KNOW IF JIMMY "DOESN'T CARE A RATS ASS," BUT IT HAS BEEN THE MOVEMENT FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, TO DO LESS CONCERTS, AND TO HAVE THESE CONCERTS IN DESTINATIONS THAT JIMMY LIKE'S TO GO, AS WELL AS HIS PHANS! THAT'S WHY LAS VEGAS HAD A CONCERT ON SATURDAY AND IS GETTING 2 MORE IN THE FALL!

CINCINNATI THE "CAPITAL OF MARGARITAVILLE", WHERE THE TERM PARROTHEAD WAS COINED, IS HAVING ONE CONCERT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!! , AS OPPOSED TO 4 , JUST A FEW YEARS AGO!!

CLEVELAND, WHERE HE QUOTE "SOLDOUT THE VENUE BEFORE HE SOLDOUT ANYWHERE ELSE" APPEARS NOT TO BE ON THE THIS YEARS LIST!

JIMMY IS SIMPLY WORKING HIS JOB INTO HIS PLAYTIME, INSTEAD OF HIS PLAYTIME INTO HIS WORK!

PERHAPS, THEY WILL BUILD A THEATER FOR JIMMY IN LAS VEGAS , AND HE CAN DO A CELINE DEON!!!!!!!

HEAVEN FORBID!!!

I GUESS THE HEARTLANDS WHERE JIMMY'S POPULARITY STARTED DOESN'T HAVE THE "CACHE" THAT CHICAGO OR LOS ANGLES DOES, BUT REMEMBER THIS EVERYONE, INCLUDING JIMMY!!!!!!!!!, HE DIDN'T START OUT FILLING UP THE "MGM GRAND ", UNTIL HE FILLED UP BLOSSOM MUSIC CENTER , RIVERBEND AND KINGS ISLAND!

IMHO Remember ...we love the man and his music, BUT MAYBE NOT HIS MANAGEMENT COMPANY!!!

Just kidding!

Posted: **April 14, 2005 11:02 am**

ph4ever wrote:ok explain to me why there certain performers - including Buffett have huge rising ticket costs and others don't?

This is my opinion, not based on concrete facts. Many artists are scrambling trying to fill seats at shows, many had to cancel due to poor sales, so they lower prices to lure more people in. Obviously, JB and the CRB is one shining exception to this trend.

In his case, you have increased fuel costs, which causes all the little hands in the pot's costs to increase. And you have to increase payroll across the board - there has to be hundreds of people getting paid at each and every show.

Posted: **April 14, 2005 11:11 am**

Tiki Bar wrote:
ph4ever wrote:ok explain to me why there certain performers - including Buffett have huge rising ticket costs and others don't?
This is my opinion, not based on concrete facts. Many artists are scrambling trying to fill seats at shows, many had to cancel due to poor sales, so they lower prices to lure more people in. Obviously, JB and the CRB is one shining exception to this trend.

In his case, you have increased fuel costs, which causes all the little hands in the pot's costs to increase. And you have to increase payroll across the board - there has to be hundreds of people getting paid at each and every show.

I've got a friend who is a promoter in another country - I'm sending him an email to ask for his take on the high costs. I'll post his response when I get it.

Posted: **April 14, 2005 11:15 am**

Tiki Bar wrote:
ph4ever wrote:ok explain to me why there certain performers - including Buffett have huge rising ticket costs and others don't?
This is my opinion, not based on concrete facts. Many artists are scrambling trying to fill seats at shows, many had to cancel due to poor sales, so they lower prices to lure more people in. Obviously, JB and the CRB is one shining exception to this trend.

In his case, you have increased fuel costs, which causes all the little hands in the pot's costs to increase. And you have to increase payroll across the board - there has to be hundreds of people getting paid at each and every show.

Hi Tiki, you are right and Jimmy has one other iron in the fire! He can deliver the people, so if he says , I want $1,000,000 to preform a night, he can get it!!! Then the venues price the ticket, so they can make money too! How much did Jimmy make last year from 35 shows? Was it 32 million?

Not bad after all the expenses are paid!

Posted: **April 14, 2005 11:49 am**

ph4ever wrote:
LIPH wrote:Connie --
I'm not trying to get into a p*** contest here, but every show still sells out so I would respectfully suggest your opinion is the minority on this one.
and that's fine I can accept that - but his concerts were also selling out 10 years ago when the prices were lower. Too bad those of us that don't make high dollar salaries don't matter anywhere anymore.

Hi Connie,

I just want to point out that prices and WAGES were lower 10 years ago. I assume you would not stick with your job if you were paid 1995 wages. So, there are really two factors that are driving the cost of tickets; 1-Todays economy and 2-the law of supply and demand. If we all didn't enjoy his performances so damn much the ticket prices would adjust accordingly as would the price of his CD's, T-shirts, etc.
He's simply selling his product at the current market rate and some just can't afford it. It's unfortunate but true.

Posted: **April 14, 2005 12:01 pm**

ph4ever wrote:
ok I'll even go one step further. As I was reading thru this thread someone mentioned that others are not happy with the prices this year. Show your faces!!! It's obvious the man reads or has people who report to him what's going on here. Are y'all to chicken to speak up and say Geez dude you're making it real tough for those of us that have been here all these years to even see one show now. Step up to the plate people or are you too afraid to p*** Jimmy off??

Time for a reality check!

You act like we are all friends with Jimmy. Worried about p*** him off? Do you really think he cares what you (or any of us) think?

The relationship between JB and those who attend his concerts is simple--they pay money to attend the show. If one can't afford to go or feels the cost is to high for the benefit received, then that individual shouldn't go!

Posted: **April 14, 2005 12:01 pm**

Midnight Flyer wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
LIPH wrote:Connie --
I'm not trying to get into a p*** contest here, but every show still sells out so I would respectfully suggest your opinion is the minority on this one.
and that's fine I can accept that - but his concerts were also selling out 10 years ago when the prices were lower. Too bad those of us that don't make high dollar salaries don't matter anywhere anymore.
Hi Connie,

I just want to point out that prices and WAGES were lower 10 years ago. I assume you would not stick with your job if you were paid 1995 wages. So, there are really two factors that are driving the cost of tickets; 1-Todays economy and 2-the law of supply and demand. If we all didn't enjoy his performances so damn much the ticket prices would adjust accordingly as would the price of his CD's, T-shirts, etc.
He's simply selling his product at the current market rate and some just can't afford it. It's unfortunate but true.

I am making appx what I made 10 years ago. Only a couple of dollars more an hour. The market in my area has been so tight for the past 5 years you don't dare quit your job unless you have a job to go to. And I'm sorry but your supply and demand thery dosn't justify a increase of appx 25% in a bigger venue - maybe 5% but not 25% more

Posted: **April 14, 2005 12:13 pm**

ph4ever wrote:I am making appx what I made 10 years ago. Only a couple of dollars more an hour. The market in my area has been so tight for the past 5 years you don't dare quit your job unless you have a job to go to. And I'm sorry but your supply and demand thery dosn't justify a increase of appx 25% in a bigger venue - maybe 5% but not 25% more

I don't recall off hand what you do, but "entertainment" pays a heck of a lot better than "everyday jobs". Look at sports... look at movies... heck, we couldn't believe that the cheesy mini golf place by us asks $6 for adults, and lists separately kids and senior citizens $6!

(sorry, we thought that was funny that they separated it). There is very little entertainment options around here that don't ask astronomical prices.

Posted: **April 14, 2005 12:21 pm**

puckhead wrote:
People aren't attacking him because he doesn't want to spend his money on Buffett. (There are lots of people on this board who feel that these concerts are getting too pricey and are re-prioritizing)

And people aren't attacking him because he would rather spend his money on his children's education. (This I find very admirable)

People ARE attacking him becuase of the ignorant statement he made regarding public education in America.

EXACTLY and for the ones who are keeping score, as i have said before,i think prices are too high

Posted: **April 14, 2005 12:28 pm**

ph4ever wrote:
Midnight Flyer wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
LIPH wrote:Connie --
I'm not trying to get into a p*** contest here, but every show still sells out so I would respectfully suggest your opinion is the minority on this one.
and that's fine I can accept that - but his concerts were also selling out 10 years ago when the prices were lower. Too bad those of us that don't make high dollar salaries don't matter anywhere anymore.
Hi Connie,

I just want to point out that prices and WAGES were lower 10 years ago. I assume you would not stick with your job if you were paid 1995 wages. So, there are really two factors that are driving the cost of tickets; 1-Todays economy and 2-the law of supply and demand. If we all didn't enjoy his performances so damn much the ticket prices would adjust accordingly as would the price of his CD's, T-shirts, etc.
He's simply selling his product at the current market rate and some just can't afford it. It's unfortunate but true.

I am making appx what I made 10 years ago. Only a couple of dollars more an hour. The market in my area has been so tight for the past 5 years you don't dare quit your job unless you have a job to go to. And I'm sorry but your supply and demand thery dosn't justify a increase of appx 25% in a bigger venue - maybe 5% but not 25% more

I understand there are areas in the country, like yours, that haven't kept pace with the rest of the country. My heart goes out to you and the other people like you that are in those areas and situations. I wish there was more we could do to get the politicians out of office that are dividing our great country, but that's a whole other topic!

I think the supply and demand theory does apply. Jimmy is a pretty shrewd businessman and I am sure he will adjust the prices (up or down) as the market demands Even the majority of people here (60% as of this writing) at BN feel they are getting their monies worth: http://www.buffettnews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34845

Posted: **April 14, 2005 12:44 pm**

ph4ever wrote:
Midnight Flyer wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
LIPH wrote:Connie --
I'm not trying to get into a p*** contest here, but every show still sells out so I would respectfully suggest your opinion is the minority on this one.
and that's fine I can accept that - but his concerts were also selling out 10 years ago when the prices were lower. Too bad those of us that don't make high dollar salaries don't matter anywhere anymore.
Hi Connie,

I just want to point out that prices and WAGES were lower 10 years ago. I assume you would not stick with your job if you were paid 1995 wages. So, there are really two factors that are driving the cost of tickets; 1-Todays economy and 2-the law of supply and demand. If we all didn't enjoy his performances so damn much the ticket prices would adjust accordingly as would the price of his CD's, T-shirts, etc.
He's simply selling his product at the current market rate and some just can't afford it. It's unfortunate but true.

I am making appx what I made 10 years ago. Only a couple of dollars more an hour. The market in my area has been so tight for the past 5 years you don't dare quit your job unless you have a job to go to. And I'm sorry but your supply and demand thery dosn't justify a increase of appx 25% in a bigger venue - maybe 5% but not 25% more

ph4ever,

I must whole-heartedly agree! I too am making basically the same
annual income I was making 15 years ago.

The entertainment industry as a whole (performers, athletes, team
owners, TV and screen stars etc.) have improved their bottom-line
by at least 10 fold! The problem being, this trend will continue as long
as fans succumb to thier increased salaries and insatiable thirst for
money, money, money!

I have been a season ticket holder with the Denver Broncos since
about 1967. Almost every year the ticket prices increase, and every
year I threaten not to renew my tickets. But every year I pay the price!
The JB concerts are no exception, prices increase every year. I figure
If I don't pay the price somebody else will, and I just wind up missing
a great time. Point ans case, the "Carnival" tour sold out here in Denver
in no time at all and was unable to find tickets. I finally had to purchase
lawn tickets from a scalper for $125.00 each. It's a vicious circle, that at
some point in time must stop!

But as long as schmuck's like me continue to pay the price, it will not
stop.

ACTUALLY, DON'T GET ME STARTED!!
This is a topic that has been sore spot with me for many years.

I just wish there was something we all could do to end this and put a
stop to the greed that has taken over the entertaiment industry.

Posted: **April 14, 2005 12:49 pm**

aparrotheadindenver wrote:the "Carnival" tour sold out here in Denver in no time at all and was unable to find tickets. I finally had to purchase lawn tickets from a scalper for $125.00 each.

Who held a gun to your head and forced you to pay a scalper?

Posted: **April 14, 2005 12:49 pm**

aparrotheadindenver wrote:
I just wish there was something we all could do to end this and put a
stop to the greed that has taken over the entertaiment industry.

can we say boycott??

i learned the meaning of that in public school

Posted: **April 14, 2005 12:53 pm**

LIPH wrote:
aparrotheadindenver wrote:the "Carnival" tour sold out here in Denver in no time at all and was unable to find tickets. I finally had to purchase lawn tickets from a scalper for $125.00 each.
Who held a gun to your head and forced you to pay a scalper?

It was probably a lawyer or a therapist

Posted: **April 14, 2005 1:00 pm**

lovin_jimmy wrote:
aparrotheadindenver wrote:
I just wish there was something we all could do to end this and put a
stop to the greed that has taken over the entertaiment industry.
can we say boycott?? i learned the meaning of that in public school

Is that what the child molester wandering the halls would say when he found his next public school victim?

Posted: **April 14, 2005 1:02 pm**

all I can say is vote with your wallet. If people want to pay 1,000 bucks for the tickets...let um. If someone came up to me and said Brett, everyone really wants to work with you and we want to pay you $500,000 a year more than what Im already making.....would I tell them no. I dont think so......some people might say why not give that money to someone who needs it more than you. But its an open system. Besides ...they could change there minds in 6 months . Hell Jimmy career was almost finished a few years ago. Now it rolling along and he's gettin older so he probably saying it his last chance to get it so why not.

Posted: **April 14, 2005 1:02 pm**

shakerofsalt wrote:
lovin_jimmy wrote:
aparrotheadindenver wrote:
I just wish there was something we all could do to end this and put a
stop to the greed that has taken over the entertaiment industry.
can we say boycott?? i learned the meaning of that in public school
Is that what the child molester wandering the halls would say when he found his next public school victim?

that is who taught it to me

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