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conched wrote:I heard Pine Knob from 7/91 on Radiomargaritaville. So there is one you can look for. This is a great show.

You gotta hear Love and Luck and the wonderful female background vocals. It must have been Mary Harris??

I wonder if the female vocal on Love and Luck was not actually Nicky Yarling? I re-listened to parts of my recording tonight and Jimmy thanked Nicky for the vocals and violin after Hurricane Season. The voice sounded pretty similar to me on Love and Luck.

Also, Jimmy announced Love and Luck as a "brand new song". That makes sense since there was not too much "new" going on between '89 & '94.

gingerbreadman wrote:

conched wrote:I heard Pine Knob from 7/91 on Radiomargaritaville. So there is one you can look for. This is a great show.

You gotta hear Love and Luck and the wonderful female background vocals. It must have been Mary Harris??

I wonder if the female vocal on Love and Luck was not actually Nicky Yarling? I re-listened to parts of my recording tonight and Jimmy thanked Nicky for the vocals and violin after Hurricane Season. The voice sounded pretty similar to me on Love and Luck.

Also, Jimmy announced Love and Luck as a "brand new song". That makes sense since there was not too much "new" going on between '89 & '94.

Well, thank ya!! Another mystery solved.

OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

Thanks for all your help. I just got a new computer and iTunes, so I'm still trying to figure it all out.

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

Thanks for all your help. I just got a new computer and iTunes, so I'm still trying to figure it all out.

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

Thanks for all your help. I just got a new computer and iTunes, so I'm still trying to figure it all out.

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

Thanks for all your help. I just got a new computer and iTunes, so I'm still trying to figure it all out.

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

Thanks for all your help. I just got a new computer and iTunes, so I'm still trying to figure it all out.

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

Thanks for all your help. I just got a new computer and iTunes, so I'm still trying to figure it all out.

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

Thanks for all your help. I just got a new computer and iTunes, so I'm still trying to figure it all out.

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

Thanks for all your help. I just got a new computer and iTunes, so I'm still trying to figure it all out.

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:

scotto wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:OK- question for those that really know what they are doing with this stuff. What exactly does a song's MB mean and how is it determined? I know what it means, but how do they get it?

I ask this because I am trying to download and burn the show from Mohegan Sun 2005 for a friend who was at the show. It's a basic 27 song set, about 2 hour and 10 minutes worth of music (excluding intermission, time b/w encores, etc.). However, the entire set's MB is something like 87 and 92 MB. How does this translate onto a blank CD with 700 MB on it? And it seems that it is not based on length either. For example, Coconut Telegraph (3:39) from Live in Hawaii is 4.2 MB, while SOASOAS (3:39) from Mohegan Sun 2005 is 5.1 MB. If it is the same length, shouldn't it be the same MB?

Thanks and PHINZ UP!!!

First of all,
When making a music cd(one that you can play in a normal cd player), it will fit based on time. Most cds can hold 80 minutes of music playable in a cd player, which explains why the live albums like Live in Hawaii, Manfield, Fenway, and Vegas come in 2 cd sets. MB or megabytes, is the size of the file. You can look at it as quality. The higher the mb, the closer the quality is to the source of the music. I think that the mohengan sun concert was recorded from Sirius. To keep a good quality that's close to the original, the creater saved the file as high quality. The mohengan sun copy is still compressed, and not exactly the same quality as the original (the only way you can do this is with a lossless format, like .flac in the Toronto show-these files are really big). Now about the Hawaii Cd:
When you copy the files to your computers hard drive, they'd be very big, so whatever program you used to copy the tracks (window media player, itunes, or musicmatch) compressed them, so you lost some quality and some mb size, but that probably isn't very noticable.
You can burn a data or mp3 cd and it will be based on MBs, not minutes, but will not play in a cd player. If you need to make the size on MBs smaller, you can compress the files, just like what was done to the cd. Itunes, and I think total recorder can easily do this.
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

First of all, why was I able to fit the Saturday Philly show ('05) into two CD's if the quality, in my opinion was almost as good, if not better, than Mohegan Sun?

Second, how do you compress the files?

Thanks!

Sometimes, once you get to a point, most people can't tell the quality difference. I think that most people will be fine with 128 kbps, which is the amount of music going into your ears per second. 128 kbps should be fine and you can do compression in itunes. This will only give you smaller amounts of MB, not fit over 2 hours worth of music on one playable cd.
If you already have songs in your itunes library, it's not that hard. (if not click file -> add files to library.)
Go to Edit-> Preferences- to the advanced tab, and then into the importing tab. Under IMPORT USING: select MP3 encoder and under SETTING, select good quality (128kbps). Press Ok. You only have to do that once, so the settings are in.
Whenever you want to compress a song, you can do this: In the library, right click on whatever song or songs you want to compress. From the menu, select Convert selection to mp3. That's it. There are other programs that do this too like musicmatch, but itunes is pretty simple after the first step. Good Luck

Thanks for all your help. I just got a new computer and iTunes, so I'm still trying to figure it all out.

sorry about that...BN hiccup just as I'm posting. Moderaters, feel free to clean that up.

sorry if someone posted this before, but I got all the way to the songs, clicked it, and got a page cannot be displayed message, anyone know what is up with that?

hadessephy wrote:sorry if someone posted this before, but I got all the way to the songs, clicked it, and got a page cannot be displayed message, anyone know what is up with that?

A lot of people have had this problem. If you're using Internet Explorer, get another browser called firefox. It's just like internet explorer, but better, faster, more secure, and it won't have these problems. It's free, to get it go to http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/. Once it's installed, just open it up and go to the site- the interface is similar to internet explorer.

hadessephy wrote:sorry if someone posted this before, but I got all the way to the songs, clicked it, and got a page cannot be displayed message, anyone know what is up with that?

I've had that too (on IE). If you are looking to download, right click the song, and click copy to folder. The song will download into the folder.