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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bba_fan_death_settlement

This was a tragic sidebar to, what was, an incredible night for Sox fans.
I'll probably catch some flak, but I gotta ask,
Isn't this amount a little excessive for a person who was voluntarily present at a raucous event?

I don't comprehend any settlement. She was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The police were doing their job. It was an accident. Horrible, tragic and I cannot bear to think of how the parents must feel.

But what is the money going to do? Send them to early retirement to make them feel better?

I realize she would have appeared to have a promising career AHEAD of her,
but she didn't leave a husband or children.

What is that INSANE AMOUNT of money supposed to do for her parents beyond pay off some school loans?

Lightning Bolt wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bba_fan_death_settlement

This was a tragic sidebar to, what was, an incredible night for Sox fans.
I'll probably catch some flak, but I gotta ask,
Isn't this amount a little excessive for a person who was voluntarily present at a raucous event?

What is excessive, is the millions of dollars payed to the grown men that do nothing for a living other than play a damn game. Who then act like spoiled brats when they don't get the additional millions they are seeking and exclaim "How am I gonna feed my family" Not trying to hijack your thread here, but just drawing a line for the definition of excessive.

just want to clarify the city of Boston settled not the Red Sox.

RAGTOP wrote:just want to clarify the city of Boston settled not the Red Sox.

You beat me to it.


The Red Sox had nothing to do with this it was the City of Boston and the police.


The City of Boston announced yesterday that it will pay the biggest wrongful death settlement in its history, $5 million, to the family of Victoria Snelgrove, the college student killed in October by police trying to control a crowd outside Fenway Park..........

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articl ... er?pg=full

Lightning Bolt wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bba_fan_death_settlement
Isn't this amount a little excessive for a person who was voluntarily present at a raucous event?

The girl was at a bar, she left the bar when teh game ended and the crowds were out of control, by all accounts the street were jammed packed and no one could move so she stood to the side trying to avoid all trouble and was shot by a cop who was aiming at someone else. $5.1M IMO isn't enough.


Lets say your at a Buffett show, the crowd gets out of control, you stand to the side while the police try to control things and you get shot because a cop missed his target....... would that be your fault for being there?


Whenever I go to Fenway I walk by the spot where she was shot, very sad!

i just think the rioting issue is the one thats ridiculous. you riot if you win .. you riot if you lose .. these cities HAVE to control that ... and as someone stated earlier .. ACCIDENTS WILL HAPPEN ... ask whether she deserved it .. NO .. but do the hundreds of business owners deserve to have their stuff destroyed either ?? cars burned streets torn up ... where does it end ...

if the riot got out of control and someone "stampeded" her .. would the city still pay ??? since they didnt do anything to stop it ??? at least they ( the city ) was acting to prevent more serious damage ...

Yay! Our city's steroid monkeys hit the little ball with the little stick better than the other city's steroid monkeys! Let's celebrate by burning things and tossing cinder blocks through storefronts!



Buy the ticket, take the ride...

BottleofRum wrote:Lets say your at a Buffett show, the crowd gets out of control, you stand to the side while the police try to control things and you get shot because a cop missed his target....... would that be your fault for being there?


Whenever I go to Fenway I walk by the spot where she was shot, very sad!

It isnt worth 5 mil..... It was a horrible accident.

ToplessRideFL wrote:

BottleofRum wrote:Lets say your at a Buffett show, the crowd gets out of control, you stand to the side while the police try to control things and you get shot because a cop missed his target....... would that be your fault for being there?


Whenever I go to Fenway I walk by the spot where she was shot, very sad!

It isnt worth 5 mil..... It was a horrible accident.

You are right, it isn't worth 5 mil, a human life is worth a hell of a lot more than 5 mil. Life is priceless.

BottleofRum wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bba_fan_death_settlement
Isn't this amount a little excessive for a person who was voluntarily present at a raucous event?

The girl was at a bar, she left the bar when teh game ended and the crowds were out of control, by all accounts the street were jammed packed and no one could move so she stood to the side trying to avoid all trouble and was shot by a cop who was aiming at someone else. $5.1M IMO isn't enough.


Lets say your at a Buffett show, the crowd gets out of control, you stand to the side while the police try to control things and you get shot because a cop missed his target....... would that be your fault for being there?

I say... you go ANYWHERE at your own risk. Whether it's driving on the freeway or walking into the public restroom. There are no guarantees in life. It's only in America, that we must find FAULT and LIABILITY with everything, and while this is an advancement our society's conscienceness (sp), it so often is blown out of proportion, or misapplied to the furthest point of reason. The settlements paid out to the families of those who perished on 9/11, compared to those who perished yesterday in military action in Iraq, is a prime example. The whole "playing field" gets seriously warped by those who have the resources of high-end legal assistance. I do sympathize at the loss of this family's daughter, but not to the tune of $5.1 million. You can guess who gets 35% of that sum, can't you?

The insurance companies nor the individual officer(s) are not off the hook as of yet,( at least from what I read in the particular article) so there is the potential for further litigation.

The weapon used is considered less than leathal ( deadly) force. They are pretty much the same thing that one uses to play "paintball" with. Her death is no doubt tragic and a tradgedy is only putting it mildly.

Everyone that rioted and damaged and destroyed property is to blame. I don't see the officer(s) at fault here. While the money may seem excessive... Just what price would you put on losing your child or wife or parent or loved one or friend?

Granted the lawyer(s) will take at least 1/3rd or more of the settlement....they still have to be paid...perhaps it seems wrong and may seem outragegous....but a lawyer has to front money to pay for profeesional witnesses,and research and alot more things we never hear about. I am not justifying the lawyers fees ( only the lawyer can do that )
BUT I am saying that many frivolous suits have actually happened that we hear about....there are many legitimate cases where people have a real case and we never hear about them.
The real losers are "We the People!" We lose a loved one or a family member and after going through all that trauma...we have to go to court and see what will happen...no the money will never replace th life that was lost....or take the edge off of the pain....nor do I know of anyone that given the choice, would take take the money or lose a loved one.

Again, I blame the people and the mob rioting, and not the police, and not the baseball team...

Something is drastically wrong with our society when we celebrate by random and wanton destruction of property and lives. JESUS people....it is only PHREAKING GAME that you do not even play in. A PHREAKING GAME that some men using steroids or other substances are playing. You are only a fan. What kind of fan is the person that makes and performs such acts? to destroy your own city or the field or private property/business, or even to cause someone to lose their life? Is that worth it? Is it worth your own life and security and Freedom? If you can expound that much effort and are that big of a fan, buy a billboard and radio and tv time.... All of those that rioted could have chipped in $5.00 and bought plenty of space and air time.

I wonder if there should be snipers all over the place, to take out the leaders at random events like this,would it be any worse?Possibly? Probably? Is this thought extreme ? perhaps......

How would you feel if, it was your business that was destroyed? or your car flipped over and burned? Or your loved one(s) injured or killed by the mob or as a result of the actions and conduct of the rioting mob?

Maybe we could have the police and security people just toss in some exploding toads and frogs to quell the rioters....