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pair8head wrote:No answer, big surprize huh?

look at the time you called them


EMAIL THE SCHOOL!!!

E-mails will be sent out tomorrow... I need some time to think about this one!

We all know teachers who would have done the same thing as that idiot. They think there is no such thing as extenuating circumstances becuase they've never been in one. That teacher should be fired and revoked of whatever license they need.

In the first place, if the kid was on his lunch break, WHY do those teachers/administrators give a damm???

Secondly, add ME to the list of those e-mailing the school.

THIRDLY, add me to the list of CALLING the office of whoever the U.S. Congressman/woman is from that district.

Talk about taking B.S. to the NTH degree!!!

My husband teaches English at a public high school.

He's also a veteran of the Air Force . . . there's no way he would have made that kid hang up the phone because it "broke the rules."

Where is common sense when you need it?

There's an exception to every rule . . . and the teacher who is so rigid he/she couldn't show some compassion and bend the rules in this case is a dope.

Blech on a school system/administration/board that would let the 10 day suspension stand.

What a crock of s***.

East Texas Parrothead wrote:My husband teaches English at a public high school.

He's also a veteran of the Air Force . . . there's no way he would have made that kid hang up the phone because it "broke the rules."

Where is common sense when you need it?

There's an exception to every rule . . . and the teacher who is so rigid he/she couldn't show some compassion and bend the rules in this case is a dope.

Blech on a school system/administration/board that would let the 10 day suspension stand.

in the other thread on this, I posted a quote from the kid saying that the teacher tried to confiscate the phone, that he was polite in explaining the situation, and the teacher still grabbed it from him.

My guess is the "defiant and disrespectful" grew out of that, and any profanity was probably deserved and got tacked on as a "spin this to make me look good" thing when it was presented to the principal.

and right now, it is down to a three-day so the kid can take finals.

Call me foolish, but there shouldn't even be a suspension, that the principal should have looked at the teacher, calmly explained the situation, and then asked if the teacher understood the circumstances for the variance from policy.

COLUMBUS, Ga. (AP) - Following hundreds of angry phone calls and e-mails, school officials in this Army base city have reduced a suspension imposed on a student who wouldn't give up his cell phone while talking to his mom -- a sergeant on duty in Iraq.

The angry calls about the boy's suspension got so bad at one point that secretaries had to take their phones off the hook, assistant principal Alfred Parham said.

Kevin Francois, a 17-year-old junior at Spencer High School, was suspended for 10 days for disorderly conduct Wednesday after a teacher told him to give up his cell phone outside the school during his lunch break and he refused, the teen said.

The boy said he had not expected the call from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour.

The teacher says the confrontation happened in a hallway, not outside, and that Francois never said the call was with his mother.

The Muscogee County School District Board of Education allows students to have cell phones in school but not to use them during school hours.

The punishment for violating that policy is that the phone is confiscated until the end of the day. But Francois was suspended for cursing and being defiant, said Parham. That was extended to 10 because "he did not want to accept the three-day suspension and to agree that he would not use the cell phone openly or curse."

"We are empathetic to all students whose parents serve in the armed forces ... (but) we do have behavior standards which we uphold," said Superintendent John A. Phillips Jr.

On Friday, the school district reduced the suspension to three days, which will allow Francois to return to school Monday, after officials met with him, the guardian who cares for him while his mother is out of the country, and a representative of her unit.

"People are fussing at us, calling us names," said assistant principal Wendell Turner.

"We are the school that serves Fort Benning," Turner said. "We're well aware of students with parents overseas."

Parham said, however, that Francois' behavior at school has been "a chronic problem."

And Francois added: "I'm not a golden child and I've been wrong, but I was right this time."

YEEEAAAHHHH!!!!! That's great to hear!

SMLCHNG wrote:COLUMBUS, Ga. (AP) - Following hundreds of angry phone calls and e-mails, school officials in this Army base city have reduced a suspension imposed on a student who wouldn't give up his cell phone while talking to his mom -- a sergeant on duty in Iraq.

The angry calls about the boy's suspension got so bad at one point that secretaries had to take their phones off the hook, assistant principal Alfred Parham said.

Kevin Francois, a 17-year-old junior at Spencer High School, was suspended for 10 days for disorderly conduct Wednesday after a teacher told him to give up his cell phone outside the school during his lunch break and he refused, the teen said.

The boy said he had not expected the call from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour.

The teacher says the confrontation happened in a hallway, not outside, and that Francois never said the call was with his mother.

The Muscogee County School District Board of Education allows students to have cell phones in school but not to use them during school hours.

The punishment for violating that policy is that the phone is confiscated until the end of the day. But Francois was suspended for cursing and being defiant, said Parham. That was extended to 10 because "he did not want to accept the three-day suspension and to agree that he would not use the cell phone openly or curse."
"We are empathetic to all students whose parents serve in the armed forces ... (but) we do have behavior standards which we uphold," said Superintendent John A. Phillips Jr.

On Friday, the school district reduced the suspension to three days, which will allow Francois to return to school Monday, after officials met with him, the guardian who cares for him while his mother is out of the country, and a representative of her unit.

"People are fussing at us, calling us names," said assistant principal Wendell Turner.

"We are the school that serves Fort Benning," Turner said. "We're well aware of students with parents overseas."

Parham said, however, that Francois' behavior at school has been "a chronic problem."

And Francois added: "I'm not a golden child and I've been wrong, but I was right this time."

so there is also a valuable lesson for both sides:

a) when you are morons in your rule-enforcement methodology, and the word gets out, people are willing to let you know;

b) when you are right, sometimes morons will try to make the punishment for being right harsher in hopes you will back off and knuckle under to their stupidity.

"People are fussing at us, calling us names," said assistant principal Wendell Turner.
If you really are an idiot, it's not name-calling.

Elrod wrote:"People are fussing at us, calling us names," said assistant principal Wendell Turner.
If you really are an idiot, it's not name-calling.

"Fussing" is the one that gets me. That tells me that they really don't understand their lack of judgement on this one.

"We are the school that serves Fort Benning," Turner said. "We're well aware of students with parents overseas."

Then ACT like it, jackass!

Wino you know wrote:

"We are the school that serves Fort Benning," Turner said. "We're well aware of students with parents overseas."

Then ACT like it, jackass!

Thank you.

over the last several days, I have been too angry to even post in this thread, much less call the school.

Larry, in answer to your question about the timing of the call, phones are not available at all times, depending where his Mom is stationed. She may only have the opportunity to call once in a great while, and not on a schedule or at a time that she can plan.

Bad enough that this happened at all, anywhere in the country, but to happen at a school that serves Fort Benning is unconscionable!!

Since the article mentions a guardian, either his mom is a single mom, or his dad is also deployed.

I've been there. Deployed. Separated from my kids. THIS SUCKKS BEYOND WORDS.

Elrod wrote:"People are fussing at us, calling us names," said assistant principal Wendell Turner.
If you really are an idiot, it's not name-calling.

Amen

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:over the last several days, I have been too angry to even post in this thread, much less call the school.

Larry, in answer to your question about the timing of the call, phones are not available at all times, depending where his Mom is stationed. She may only have the opportunity to call once in a great while, and not on a schedule or at a time that she can plan.

Bad enough that this happened at all, anywhere in the country, but to happen at a school that serves Fort Benning is unconscionable!!

Since the article mentions a guardian, either his mom is a single mom, or his dad is also deployed.

I've been there. Deployed. Separated from my kids. THIS SUCKKS BEYOND WORDS.

The kid's dad died when he was 5 according to one article.

RinglingRingling wrote:The kid's dad died when he was 5 according to one article.

So, a single mom gets an opportunity to call, and she calls, knowing that the next time she heads out on a patrol there's the very real possibility that she might not come back, and some (expletive deleted) teacher hangs up on her. The (expletive deleted) teacher should be required to go to Baghdad for a month or so, and go out on patrols, or stand guard at a checkpoint, or run the gauntlet up to the airport in a HUMVEE.

I am faaaaar to angry to comment further.......

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:The kid's dad died when he was 5 according to one article.

So, a single mom gets an opportunity to call, and she calls, knowing that the next time she heads out on a patrol there's the very real possibility that she might not come back, and some (expletive deleted) teacher hangs up on her. The (expletive deleted) teacher should be required to go to Baghdad for a month or so, and go out on patrols, or stand guard at a checkpoint, or run the gauntlet up to the airport in a HUMVEE.

I am faaaaar to angry to comment further.......

having had teachers like this before, it is all about ego. They feel they are going to win any argument because they are the teacher... and if they lose, they try to break you.

Final Score: Teachers: 0 Ringling: 3(retired/resigned teachers)

If I read the article correctly, the teacher grabbed the cell phone from the kid's hand.... Teacher laying a hand on a student....... HMMMMMMMMMMM.......... If I were that teacher, I dunno, I might worry just a little.......