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Posted: May 14, 2005 1:59 pm
by UpstateNYPH
SuperTrooper wrote:First I have to say I'm excited and proud to be a BNr. If this can be pulled off it could start a trend elsewhere.
Thoughts on venues...
Cruise ships are too small. Even the largest max out at about 4,000 guests.
Tailgating is as important as the event, so the venue must be an easygoing place. How is RedRocks on this?
You need a place with LOTS of hotel rooms nearby. Some of these places are in the middle of nowhere.
How about an amphitheatre with a lawn, but only sell the seated area. Leave the lawn for maybe hospitaltity tents/catering, or just a place for BNrs to meat (not meat) without being in the way.
I think 9,000 seats isn't enough. I think you'll be surpised at the response from registered members and lots of us would need to bring our SO. 15,000 is a better number IMHO.
A major airport is obviously a must.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PHOLKS!!!
Good ideas. Something to keep in mind
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:01 pm
by PHat Matt
UpstateNYPH wrote:PHat Matt wrote:I've only read through page 4 but OMG YOU GUYS ARE GETTING ME SOOO EXCITED...
Is Red Rocks where we're gonna try and go?
Maybe, will you do a HULA!?
I will do SOOOO much
HULA!!!!
Im about to HULA just at the thought of it!!!!
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:02 pm
by nycparrothead
Okay I just saw this thread and don't have time to read 12 pages worth of posts right now.. So, just so I don't miss out on anything,
I'm in.
I'll pay what I need to pay, just let me know.
Thanks and have a nice day.
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:02 pm
by RAGTOP
read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:03 pm
by balcony girls
good points. . S/Trooper . .
this is exactly the input that will be needed . .
now if we can just make this " HK " info work on Monday . .we'll really start rollin . .! !
so everybody . . .time to get those phins crossed . . .
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:09 pm
by UpstateNYPH
RAGTOP wrote:read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...
Well the main difference is it would be private. No public ticket sales, somewhat our choice of venue, etc. I think he would do this for 3 reasons, 1. He is getting paid 2. He knows what Buffettnews is and knows we are his biggest fans and 3. A lot of this is going to go to charity (hopefully). Its a PR explosion for him, I think the question is, why would he NOT do it.
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:12 pm
by nycparrothead
What I don't get is how we can consider this intimate if there are going to be over 10,000 people there? How will this be any better to us than any other show?
Again, I haven't read through the thread so maybe this has been asked too...
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:14 pm
by MA_Buffett_Fan23
nycparrothead wrote:What I don't get is how we can consider this intimate if there are going to be over 10,000 people there? How will this be any better to us than any other show?
Again, I haven't read through the thread so maybe this has been asked too...
Simple, you'd be sitting next to me! How much more intimate can it get?!?1
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:15 pm
by UpstateNYPH
nycparrothead wrote:What I don't get is how we can consider this intimate if there are going to be over 10,000 people there? How will this be any better to us than any other show?
Again, I haven't read through the thread so maybe this has been asked too...
I think te idea of it isnt being so intimate, but the idea of us beating the system and literally making history. What fanbase has booked their own artist before? Think about it, no ticketmaster, no scalpers, and personal invites to the people who want to see him most.
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:15 pm
by SuperTrooper
RAGTOP wrote:read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...
I would say that our money is as good as anybody's.
I would think performing for more than casual phans (not trying to be uppity here) would be a plus. It would be a unique opportunity to maybe leave off some of SYKBH and experiment some.
I think Jimmy would be genuinely intrigued by the concept.
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:15 pm
by RAGTOP
UpstateNYPH wrote:RAGTOP wrote:read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...
Well the main difference is it would be private. No public ticket sales, somewhat our choice of venue, etc. I think he would do this for 3 reasons, 1. He is getting paid 2. He knows what Buffettnews is and knows we are his biggest fans and 3. A lot of this is going to go to charity (hopefully). Its a PR explosion for him, I think the question is, why would he NOT do it.
Keep in mind I'm just playing devils advocate here. You say he is getting paid... can't he just go to his management co now and say book a venue and he gets paid? Again he could book 100 shows a year if he chose to. How would this go to charity? Wouldn't the venue and Jimmy decide if it goes to charity since you have to pay them? I'm not trying to be an ass just asking questions.
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:16 pm
by UpstateNYPH
MA_Buffett_Fan23 wrote:nycparrothead wrote:What I don't get is how we can consider this intimate if there are going to be over 10,000 people there? How will this be any better to us than any other show?
Again, I haven't read through the thread so maybe this has been asked too...
Simple, you'd be sitting next to me! How much more intimate can it get?!?1
Not much at all...... LOL
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:16 pm
by nycparrothead
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:17 pm
by comtnfish
I think the point was more that it would be just for BN members/fans and not so much for the corporate sponsors, etc.
Also, another reason for Jimmy to do the concert would be for the charity angle. He used to do fundraising shows for the Montessori school his kids go to - tix were pretty expensive though from what I hear, but the crowd was really small. I know he can pick and choose his venues & shows, but some of it has to be money driven on his end....Walmart of all corporations was able to 'buy' him after all....
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:17 pm
by UpstateNYPH
RAGTOP wrote:UpstateNYPH wrote:RAGTOP wrote:read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...
Well the main difference is it would be private. No public ticket sales, somewhat our choice of venue, etc. I think he would do this for 3 reasons, 1. He is getting paid 2. He knows what Buffettnews is and knows we are his biggest fans and 3. A lot of this is going to go to charity (hopefully). Its a PR explosion for him, I think the question is, why would he NOT do it.
Keep in mind I'm just playing devils advocate here. You say he is getting paid... can't he just go to his management co now and say book a venue and he gets paid? Again he could book 100 shows a year if he chose to. How would this go to charity? Wouldn't the venue and Jimmy decide if it goes to charity since you have to pay them? I'm not trying to be an ass just asking questions.
We did discuss charity options a few pages back, I dont have time to explain it now I have to run. I hope everyone keeps their fins crossed!
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:18 pm
by MA_Buffett_Fan23
dude you weren't supposed to say that!
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:19 pm
by nycparrothead
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:20 pm
by SuperTrooper
nycparrothead wrote:What I don't get is how we can consider this intimate if there are going to be over 10,000 people there? How will this be any better to us than any other show?
Again, I haven't read through the thread so maybe this has been asked too...
Go back and read it you lazy monkey!
No TM/brokers/scalpers, no corporate sponsors grabbing up tix.
I don't think "intimate" is important as this being an event for the members.
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:20 pm
by MA_Buffett_Fan23
I definitely like the charity idea..
Would it be possible to have more than one charity?
Posted: May 14, 2005 2:23 pm
by PHat Matt
RAGTOP wrote:UpstateNYPH wrote:RAGTOP wrote:read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...
Well the main difference is it would be private. No public ticket sales, somewhat our choice of venue, etc. I think he would do this for 3 reasons, 1. He is getting paid 2. He knows what Buffettnews is and knows we are his biggest fans and 3. A lot of this is going to go to charity (hopefully). Its a PR explosion for him, I think the question is, why would he NOT do it.
Keep in mind I'm just playing devils advocate here. You say he is getting paid... can't he just go to his management co now and say book a venue and he gets paid? Again he could book 100 shows a year if he chose to. How would this go to charity? Wouldn't the venue and Jimmy decide if it goes to charity since you have to pay them? I'm not trying to be an ass just asking questions.
It is not up to the venue and/or Jimmy. Or at least on the level of Peter Mayer (Im assuming JB works the same way), in putting together a concert there are 3 organizations represented. 1) The artist has his demands (everything spelled out in the rider, and the $), 2) The venue has their demands ($$), and 3) The contractor/producer. If the venue and JB are paid and their requirements met, then everything else is up to the contractor/promoter, who would be BN.
So ultimatly if we have the money to get the venue and JB, we can do whatever we want with the remainder.