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PHat Matt wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:

UpstateNYPH wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...

Well the main difference is it would be private. No public ticket sales, somewhat our choice of venue, etc. I think he would do this for 3 reasons, 1. He is getting paid 2. He knows what Buffettnews is and knows we are his biggest fans and 3. A lot of this is going to go to charity (hopefully). Its a PR explosion for him, I think the question is, why would he NOT do it.

Keep in mind I'm just playing devils advocate here. You say he is getting paid... can't he just go to his management co now and say book a venue and he gets paid? Again he could book 100 shows a year if he chose to. How would this go to charity? Wouldn't the venue and Jimmy decide if it goes to charity since you have to pay them? I'm not trying to be an ass just asking questions.

It is not up to the venue and/or Jimmy. Or at least on the level of Peter Mayer (Im assuming JB works the same way), in putting together a concert there are 3 organizations represented. 1) The artist has his demands (everything spelled out in the rider, and the $), 2) The venue has their demands ($$), and 3) The contractor/producer. If the venue and JB are paid and their requirements met, then everything else is up to the contractor/promoter, who would be BN.

So ultimatly if we have the money to get the venue and JB, we can do whatever we want with the remainder.

I understand how it works, but isn't the issue how to pay for the venue and Jimmy? I can imagine that could range anywhere from $500,00-$1,000,000. Your actually counting on having extra money after that? Ahain I'm just playing devils advocate here.

RAGTOP wrote:

PHat Matt wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:

UpstateNYPH wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...

Well the main difference is it would be private. No public ticket sales, somewhat our choice of venue, etc. I think he would do this for 3 reasons, 1. He is getting paid 2. He knows what Buffettnews is and knows we are his biggest fans and 3. A lot of this is going to go to charity (hopefully). Its a PR explosion for him, I think the question is, why would he NOT do it.

Keep in mind I'm just playing devils advocate here. You say he is getting paid... can't he just go to his management co now and say book a venue and he gets paid? Again he could book 100 shows a year if he chose to. How would this go to charity? Wouldn't the venue and Jimmy decide if it goes to charity since you have to pay them? I'm not trying to be an ass just asking questions.

It is not up to the venue and/or Jimmy. Or at least on the level of Peter Mayer (Im assuming JB works the same way), in putting together a concert there are 3 organizations represented. 1) The artist has his demands (everything spelled out in the rider, and the $), 2) The venue has their demands ($$), and 3) The contractor/producer. If the venue and JB are paid and their requirements met, then everything else is up to the contractor/promoter, who would be BN.

So ultimatly if we have the money to get the venue and JB, we can do whatever we want with the remainder.

I understand how it works, but isn't the issue how to pay for the venue and Jimmy? I can imagine that could range anywhere from $500,00-$1,000,000. Your actually counting on having extra money after that? Ahain I'm just playing devils advocate here.

We've run the calculations with the amount of people we expect. Probably somewhere between 30-70 dollars per person maybe. Depends on a lot of factors. All of this is in the past pages of this thread.

RAGTOP wrote:

PHat Matt wrote:It is not up to the venue and/or Jimmy. Or at least on the level of Peter Mayer (Im assuming JB works the same way), in putting together a concert there are 3 organizations represented. 1) The artist has his demands (everything spelled out in the rider, and the $), 2) The venue has their demands ($$), and 3) The contractor/producer. If the venue and JB are paid and their requirements met, then everything else is up to the contractor/promoter, who would be BN.

So ultimatly if we have the money to get the venue and JB, we can do whatever we want with the remainder.

I understand how it works, but isn't the issue how to pay for the venue and Jimmy? I can imagine that could range anywhere from $500,00-$1,000,000. Your actually counting on having extra money after that? Ahain I'm just playing devils advocate here.

Devil's advocate is the best way to get to the reality of somthing.
The venue, regardless, will cost a lot. If we look for a major venue like Red Rocks or somthing to that extent, we are looking at several thousand dollars. I believe the Palace Theater, a local place that holds 2K costs usually around 1-3K. So without question the venue is going to cost a LOT.

Basically the thing we need to find out, is how much intrest is there really? Can we honestly get together about a million dollars, because I imagine it will cost about that much once everything is added together.

There is probibly a payment schedule for both JB and the venue, so we dont need it all at once. But we will need whatever the cost is in donations, and it will all have to come before the show.

PHat Matt wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:

PHat Matt wrote:It is not up to the venue and/or Jimmy. Or at least on the level of Peter Mayer (Im assuming JB works the same way), in putting together a concert there are 3 organizations represented. 1) The artist has his demands (everything spelled out in the rider, and the $), 2) The venue has their demands ($$), and 3) The contractor/producer. If the venue and JB are paid and their requirements met, then everything else is up to the contractor/promoter, who would be BN.

So ultimatly if we have the money to get the venue and JB, we can do whatever we want with the remainder.

I understand how it works, but isn't the issue how to pay for the venue and Jimmy? I can imagine that could range anywhere from $500,00-$1,000,000. Your actually counting on having extra money after that? Ahain I'm just playing devils advocate here.

Devil's advocate is the best way to get to the reality of somthing.
The venue, regardless, will cost a lot. If we look for a major venue like Red Rocks or somthing to that extent, we are looking at several thousand dollars. I believe the Palace Theater, a local place that holds 2K costs usually around 1-3K. So without question the venue is going to cost a LOT.

Basically the thing we need to find out, is how much intrest is there really? Can we honestly get together about a million dollars, because I imagine it will cost about that much once everything is added together.

There is probibly a payment schedule for both JB and the venue, so we dont need it all at once. But we will need whatever the cost is in donations, and it will all have to come before the show.

Thats why were discussing having people put down deposits to find a number of whose going. I dont mean to sound like a broken record, but all this has been posted in the last pages

RAGTOP wrote:

PHat Matt wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:

UpstateNYPH wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...

Well the main difference is it would be private. No public ticket sales, somewhat our choice of venue, etc. I think he would do this for 3 reasons, 1. He is getting paid 2. He knows what Buffettnews is and knows we are his biggest fans and 3. A lot of this is going to go to charity (hopefully). Its a PR explosion for him, I think the question is, why would he NOT do it.

Keep in mind I'm just playing devils advocate here. You say he is getting paid... can't he just go to his management co now and say book a venue and he gets paid? Again he could book 100 shows a year if he chose to. How would this go to charity? Wouldn't the venue and Jimmy decide if it goes to charity since you have to pay them? I'm not trying to be an ass just asking questions.

It is not up to the venue and/or Jimmy. Or at least on the level of Peter Mayer (Im assuming JB works the same way), in putting together a concert there are 3 organizations represented. 1) The artist has his demands (everything spelled out in the rider, and the $), 2) The venue has their demands ($$), and 3) The contractor/producer. If the venue and JB are paid and their requirements met, then everything else is up to the contractor/promoter, who would be BN.

So ultimatly if we have the money to get the venue and JB, we can do whatever we want with the remainder.

I understand how it works, but isn't the issue how to pay for the venue and Jimmy? I can imagine that could range anywhere from $500,00-$1,000,000. Your actually counting on having extra money after that? Ahain I'm just playing devils advocate here.

Someone did the math near the start of the thread and it turned out very reasonable.

This is a thread about moving FORWARD andgetting this thing done. If the answer is NO I can accept that.

UpstateNYPH wrote:Thats why were discussing having people put down deposits to find a number of whose going. I dont mean to sound like a broken record, but all this has been posted in the last pages

I really do need to go back through and read. I've read pages 1-4 and 9-current.

Dontations are awsome, cant say enough about 'em. Using Peter as an examle, the Christmas show I'm doing, I'm looking at having about 1/3 of the cost donated.

In this show I'm assuming everything is a private donation? So after talking with HK and Red Rocks, we can see the cost and decide how donations should be run and what needs raised?

SuperTrooper wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:

PHat Matt wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:

UpstateNYPH wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:read thru some of this thread and havn't seen this question asked (if it has I apologize). Why would Jimmy Buffett want to do this? Isn't this just another concert to him in a large venue? I realize he does intimate shows on the beach in theatres etc... but those are for 1,000 people. If he wanted to add another tour date wouldn't he just go thru his management company and do it? At this point in time he can literally play anywhere he wants and in turn is very selective where he plays. Just throwing this out there...

Well the main difference is it would be private. No public ticket sales, somewhat our choice of venue, etc. I think he would do this for 3 reasons, 1. He is getting paid 2. He knows what Buffettnews is and knows we are his biggest fans and 3. A lot of this is going to go to charity (hopefully). Its a PR explosion for him, I think the question is, why would he NOT do it.

Keep in mind I'm just playing devils advocate here. You say he is getting paid... can't he just go to his management co now and say book a venue and he gets paid? Again he could book 100 shows a year if he chose to. How would this go to charity? Wouldn't the venue and Jimmy decide if it goes to charity since you have to pay them? I'm not trying to be an ass just asking questions.

It is not up to the venue and/or Jimmy. Or at least on the level of Peter Mayer (Im assuming JB works the same way), in putting together a concert there are 3 organizations represented. 1) The artist has his demands (everything spelled out in the rider, and the $), 2) The venue has their demands ($$), and 3) The contractor/producer. If the venue and JB are paid and their requirements met, then everything else is up to the contractor/promoter, who would be BN.

So ultimatly if we have the money to get the venue and JB, we can do whatever we want with the remainder.

I understand how it works, but isn't the issue how to pay for the venue and Jimmy? I can imagine that could range anywhere from $500,00-$1,000,000. Your actually counting on having extra money after that? Ahain I'm just playing devils advocate here.

Someone did the math near the start of the thread and it turned out very reasonable.

This is a thread about moving FORWARD andgetting this thing done. If the answer is NO I can accept that.

This is just to use as an example, these numbers mean nothing, but lets say each person on this board (over 9,000 registered users) brings 2 people. thats about 19,000 people. Divide that by 1 million dollars, and you ahve $52 per person. Thats just an example

wow, i leave for three days and there is actually an interesting post, that is positive? im excited, let me know if there is anything I can do to help out and count me in for the show, the other thing you may want to consider is finding a venue that will let the people or at least the promoter (buffettnews) bring or sell thier own beer it would greatly reduce the $5-7 beers they have at the shows now

UpstateNYPH wrote:

SuperTrooper wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:

PHat Matt wrote:

RAGTOP wrote:

UpstateNYPH wrote: Well the main difference is it would be private. No public ticket sales, somewhat our choice of venue, etc. I think he would do this for 3 reasons, 1. He is getting paid 2. He knows what Buffettnews is and knows we are his biggest fans and 3. A lot of this is going to go to charity (hopefully). Its a PR explosion for him, I think the question is, why would he NOT do it.

Keep in mind I'm just playing devils advocate here. You say he is getting paid... can't he just go to his management co now and say book a venue and he gets paid? Again he could book 100 shows a year if he chose to. How would this go to charity? Wouldn't the venue and Jimmy decide if it goes to charity since you have to pay them? I'm not trying to be an ass just asking questions.

It is not up to the venue and/or Jimmy. Or at least on the level of Peter Mayer (Im assuming JB works the same way), in putting together a concert there are 3 organizations represented. 1) The artist has his demands (everything spelled out in the rider, and the $), 2) The venue has their demands ($$), and 3) The contractor/producer. If the venue and JB are paid and their requirements met, then everything else is up to the contractor/promoter, who would be BN.

So ultimatly if we have the money to get the venue and JB, we can do whatever we want with the remainder.

I understand how it works, but isn't the issue how to pay for the venue and Jimmy? I can imagine that could range anywhere from $500,00-$1,000,000. Your actually counting on having extra money after that? Ahain I'm just playing devils advocate here.

Someone did the math near the start of the thread and it turned out very reasonable.

This is a thread about moving FORWARD andgetting this thing done. If the answer is NO I can accept that.

This is just to use as an example, these numbers mean nothing, but lets say each person on this board (over 9,000 registered users) brings 2 people. thats about 19,000 people. Divide that by 1 million dollars, and you ahve $52 per person. Thats just an example

I've read all 13 pages of this (waiting for my laundry to get done ) Of those 9,000 members I would say 2,000 have posted once or twice and never been back. Another portion are probably scalpers looking for tickets. How many people would you say frequent the board at least once every 6 months? Maybe 3,000 members? Isn't that the real number were talking about? Is it realistic to think you can get all 3,000 people to get 4 friends to pay $50 for a ticket plus another $400 (low figure) for traveling? I'm not saying it is impossible just asking. I run a Jimmy Fund Golf Tourney in the fall and it's like pulling teeth to get 150 golfers every year to commit to a tournament that costs $150

really good points being discussed here . .and in a very good manner. .

now, let's recap . .

* we are hoping to put together a show for Bn'ers and invited guests only . . the best seats go to us . . .and only us . .

* the choices will be a collective agreement of BN only . . no outside influences . .

* Jimmy would not be repressed by corporate rules and regulations. . .and can chat with us without censorship . . ( worth the price of the ticket , right there. .) . .

* will eliminate about 500 " middle men " . . .and our $$ goes to Jimmy and the selected charity . .

* best of all . . .think of the songs he would do . . .not having to play SYKBH . .

* and lastly . . we did it . . all by ourselves. . .

PHat Matt wrote:The venue, regardless, will cost a lot.

Hmmmm.... there's this farm somewhere in upstate New York......

balcony girls wrote:really good points being discussed here . .and in a very good manner. .

now, let's recap . .

* we are hoping to put together a show for Bn'ers and invited guests only . . the best seats go to us . . .and only us . .

* the choices will be a collective agreement of BN only . . no outside influences . .

* Jimmy would not be repressed by corporate rules and regulations. . .and can chat with us without censorship . . ( worth the price of the ticket , right there. .) . .

* will eliminate about 500 " middle men " . . .and our $$ goes to Jimmy and the selected charity . .

* best of all . . .think of the songs he would do . . .not having to play SYKBH . .

* and lastly . . we did it . . all by ourselves. . .

So far so good. As much as I want to talk about this, I dont think we should get so heavily into the details until we find out from HK how much of a possibility this is. So right now....were basically just playing the waiting game

UpstateNYPH wrote:

balcony girls wrote:really good points being discussed here . .and in a very good manner. .

now, let's recap . .

* we are hoping to put together a show for Bn'ers and invited guests only . . the best seats go to us . . .and only us . .

* the choices will be a collective agreement of BN only . . no outside influences . .

* Jimmy would not be repressed by corporate rules and regulations. . .and can chat with us without censorship . . ( worth the price of the ticket , right there. .) . .

* will eliminate about 500 " middle men " . . .and our $$ goes to Jimmy and the selected charity . .

* best of all . . .think of the songs he would do . . .not having to play SYKBH . .

* and lastly . . we did it . . all by ourselves. . .

So far so good. As much as I want to talk about this, I dont think we should get so heavily into the details until we find out from HK how much of a possibility this is. So right now....were basically just playing the waiting game

I'm just so excited . . . so then . .while we wait . .

. . . . . . .


still waitin . . . .

Monday is SO FAR AWAY .. . .

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

PHat Matt wrote:The venue, regardless, will cost a lot.

Hmmmm.... there's this farm somewhere in upstate New York......

Parrotstock!!!!

MA_Buffett_Fan23 wrote:

nycparrothead wrote:

MA_Buffett_Fan23 wrote:

nycparrothead wrote:What I don't get is how we can consider this intimate if there are going to be over 10,000 people there? How will this be any better to us than any other show?

Again, I haven't read through the thread so maybe this has been asked too...

Simple, you'd be sitting next to me! How much more intimate can it get?!?1

Well sure, but will that be a big deal by then? Ya know, since we're probably gonna get drunk and bang like wild rabbits at Great Woods....

dude you weren't supposed to say that!

"relax, it'll be over before Shane knows it"

Finsupinfla wrote:Parrotstock!!!!

Yup, that seems like the obvious choice.

As long as we don't have to cavort in the mud!

Demerara wrote:

Finsupinfla wrote:Parrotstock!!!!

Yup, that seems like the obvious choice.

As long as we don't have to cavort in the mud!

I believe that name is already taken... little event in SC every summer.

RinglingRingling wrote:

Demerara wrote:

Finsupinfla wrote:Parrotstock!!!!

Yup, that seems like the obvious choice.

As long as we don't have to cavort in the mud!

I believe that name is already taken... little event in SC every summer.

No good then. We would need an original name.

RinglingRingling wrote:

Demerara wrote:

Finsupinfla wrote:Parrotstock!!!!

Yup, that seems like the obvious choice.

As long as we don't have to cavort in the mud!

I believe that name is already taken... little event in SC every summer.

Yup

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

Demerara wrote:

Finsupinfla wrote:Parrotstock!!!!

Yup, that seems like the obvious choice.

As long as we don't have to cavort in the mud!

I believe that name is already taken... little event in SC every summer.

Yup

How about "&*$^# Ticketmaster!!"