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Posted: May 16, 2005 9:29 pm
by ragtopW
East Texas Parrothead wrote:
PHAW Webmistress wrote:

How about ANOTHER cookbook - but instead of donating to charity - it would be added to the pot.
I'm willing to handle the reorders/shipping/handling. I think we can get the cover art and dedication pages changed without it costing us TOOO much.

What if we charged $15 for the cookbook and put all the profits into the pot?

How does that sound?

Someone get Auntie on the horn and see if she'll handle the financial end of it again.

Think we could sell another 450 copies? A LOT of BN'ers weren't here for the first round.

Someone PM and let me know what ya'll decide.

I'm in.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

sitting down and Writing receipes :D 8)

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:35 pm
by Tiki Bar
Hold on gang!!! We're going for a Wild Ride!!! :o :D :wink:

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:39 pm
by phlying illini
Thanks for finding out the info. I 'm glad we got the math correct now. I was bummed when I read $1500 per person, then put the calculator on it, and for $150 per person got excited about it again. What's the next step?

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:39 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
ragtopW wrote:
East Texas Parrothead wrote:
PHAW Webmistress wrote:

How about ANOTHER cookbook - but instead of donating to charity - it would be added to the pot.
I'm willing to handle the reorders/shipping/handling. I think we can get the cover art and dedication pages changed without it costing us TOOO much.

What if we charged $15 for the cookbook and put all the profits into the pot?

How does that sound?

Someone get Auntie on the horn and see if she'll handle the financial end of it again.

Think we could sell another 450 copies? A LOT of BN'ers weren't here for the first round.

Someone PM and let me know what ya'll decide.

I'm in.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

sitting down and Writing receipes :D 8)
Sorry, RagtopW....

No NEW recipes.

What I meant to say was I'd hande a 3rd printing of the 1st cookbook.

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:43 pm
by phenwayparrothead
just an idea here, I know we are avoiding all ebay and ticket agency type things, but what if tickets in the first 1-3 rows were auctioned off, I know some people out there would pay a hefty sum to sit in one of the first three rows for a fairly private bn show, and it could help bring costs down greatly.

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:43 pm
by sailingagain
If we have difficulty making 10,000, I really do believe an intimate concert for 5,000 BNers, family and friends is possible at $300 at ticket.

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:44 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
sailingagain wrote:If we have difficulty making 10,000, I really do believe an intimate concert for 5,000 BNers, family and friends is possible at $300 at ticket.
I'd pay $900 for Mr. Mojito, the Keet and me. :D

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:45 pm
by PHAW Webmistress
phenwayparrothead wrote:just an idea here, I know we are avoiding all ebay and ticket agency type things, but what if tickets in the first 1-3 rows were auctioned off, I know some people out there would pay a hefty sum to sit in one of the first three rows for a fairly private bn show, and it could help bring costs down greatly.
GREAT idea!!!

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:48 pm
by sailingagain
East Texas Parrothead wrote:
sailingagain wrote:If we have difficulty making 10,000, I really do believe an intimate concert for 5,000 BNers, family and friends is possible at $300 at ticket.
I'd pay $900 for Mr. Mojito, the Keet and me. :D
I'd definitely do $600 for me and SA Sr.

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:50 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
The 1st cookbook had 300 recipes. Two questions:

(1) Are there enough of you interested in a 2nd cookbook to round up 300 ADDITIONAL ones to DOUBLE the size . . . think about this before answering. . . we had a hard time coming up with 300.

SGH and SpringParrot went all out, as did my mom, and came through at the very last minute with the last 80 or so.

(2) And would ya'll spend $30 for one?

If the answer is YES to both questions, I'm willing to donate the time necessary to put it together. (Just don't tell Mr. Mojito what I'm up to.)

Someone PM me when a decision is made. :D

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:51 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:51 pm
by phenwayparrothead
might be good for a 5,000 person venue, is a beautiful outdoor facility and lists that it will hold private ocncerts-functions on the website
http://www.fleetbostonpavilion.com/main.html

Also for a 7,500 person venue:
http://www.paultsongasarena.com/overview.asp it's indoot but built recently and fairly nice

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:52 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
I so did NOT mean to post twice. Yipes! BN has been giving me phits all day.

Sorry. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:55 pm
by Brown Eyed Girl
A couple of thoughts that I may or may not have brought up to EmmmmEfffff :lol: , I can't remember.

1) We've been going round and round on whether this is a BN (simply meaning at this point, the members of this message board to date) event or opening it up to other boards. You can't have it both ways, although most of the folks registered and active at the other JB boards are members here, not all of them are. Are we going to impose a cut off date on them too? :-?

2) I think we should realistically assume the higher ticket price..$300+ vs. $150. Do we really think we could get 10,000 tickets sold when active membership on this board and others is far below actual membership numbers? Even if we all invited a bunch of friends I'm not sure we could get to 10,000....assuming you want to keep this show to just "us", which was the original idea.

3) Attorneys, Accountants and Auditors are all going to cost us beyond all the expenses we've already accounted for, let's not forget that. And with this kind of undertaking, their services will definitely be required. We need to include the expenses that we as a group are going to incur, not just the ones associated with the band/venue etc.

4)EmmmmEfffffff was exactly right when he said we would need to have at least a million in the escrow account before we signed the contract. What would happen if we scraped together half a million for the contract signing, then had to default 30 days out because we couldn't make up the rest of the funds? He and I both had the same reaction to that thought...YIKES.

I'm sure there will be many more ideas, thoughts and concerns...and not just from me (promise :lol: ). Keep 'em coming! :)

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:55 pm
by sy
East Texas Parrothead wrote:The 1st cookbook had 300 recipes. Two questions:

(1) Are there enough of you interested in a 2nd cookbook to round up 300 ADDITIONAL ones to DOUBLE the size . . . think about this before answering. . . we had a hard time coming up with 300.

SGH and SpringParrot went all out, as did my mom, and came through at the very last minute with the last 80 or so.

(2) And would ya'll spend $30 for one?

If the answer is YES to both questions, I'm willing to donate the time necessary to put it together. (Just don't tell Mr. Mojito what I'm up to.)

Someone PM me when a decision is made. :D
I have well over 300 family and friend tested recipes in various categories I can personally vouch for. I'd be happy to donate whatever needed.

Just hoping to help:)

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:56 pm
by ToplessRideFL
Well......... alot to think about these last 2 hours... here are my thoughts:

I preface this post by saying that it has been very exciting to consider..... and I WOULD / WILL pay dearly not only money but time if we decide to give it a go...however...

Having a concert of 10-20k is just like a normal tour... It doesnt really interest me. Prolly ' cause Tampa is usually on the schedule :D I was hoping for something more private. I do believe that it could be pulled off... by opening up the event to the masses.... but that wasn't really the original objective.

If we kept it to 5k I do not believe $600 per couple PLUS travel expenses is do-able for the majority of the phans here. Between food, travel and lodging...it could get pretty pricy.

I also do not think (based on the numbers) that we would get 2500 BNers and their guest.

The liability, escrow and logistics of planning... since we arent all in the same room would be a nightmare.

Those points covered.... I have a hundred reasons not to do it....but the motivation to try. So I am on board if we want to have a serious discussion. Just let me know.

Posted: May 16, 2005 9:58 pm
by Tiki Bar
A new Chicago lakefront venue... not sure of capacity...

http://www.northerlyislandpavilion.com/main.html

(and it seems to have affiliation with Clear Channel)

Posted: May 16, 2005 10:02 pm
by Brown Eyed Girl
Awww hell, I KNEW I'd forget something I wanted to say... :roll: :lol:

The timeline that we're looking at for this happening is one to two years out. In that time the membership of this board is going to change a great deal. How are we going to factor that in?

Posted: May 16, 2005 10:02 pm
by springparrot
East Texas Parrothead wrote:The 1st cookbook had 300 recipes. Two questions:

(1) Are there enough of you interested in a 2nd cookbook to round up 300 ADDITIONAL ones to DOUBLE the size . . . think about this before answering. . . we had a hard time coming up with 300.

SGH and SpringParrot went all out, as did my mom, and came through at the very last minute with the last 80 or so.

(2) And would ya'll spend $30 for one?

If the answer is YES to both questions, I'm willing to donate the time necessary to put it together. (Just don't tell Mr. Mojito what I'm up to.)

Someone PM me when a decision is made. :D
You know you have LOST your mind...don't you??? :wink: :P
And of course, I will do anything you need to help you!!!

(and yes, I lost mine, too :oops: )

Posted: May 16, 2005 10:03 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
Brown Eyed Girl wrote:Awww hell, I KNEW I'd forget something I wanted to say... :roll: :lol:

The timeline that we're looking at for this happening is one to two years out. In that time the membership of this board is going to change a great deal. How are we going to factor that in?
VERY good question, BEG. (For a California teacher . . . ) :lol: :lol: :lol: