Newsweek

eaglesphan5 · Post by **eaglesphan5** » May 19, 2005 10:45 pm

Is anyone else outraged at what Newsweek did?

The liberal media in this country is so quick to jump on stories that would make the Bush adminsitration look bad that they don't even bother to see if what they are reporting is accurate. They want these stories to be true in the worst way. 14 people died and even if Newsweek did retarct the story, does anyone actually believe the muslim world would believe it?
It also doesn't help our men and women serving abroad.

I thought what Dan Rather did was bad, but all he did was try to influence a national election with his unaccurate reporting. At least people didn't die with his biased reporting.

land_shark3 · Post by **land_shark3** » May 19, 2005 10:51 pm

Since I'm one of those people that relies on BN for my news....

Would you mind providing a quick synopsis on what happened?

bravedave · Post by **bravedave** » May 19, 2005 10:58 pm

I dunno.
"It's a free market economy and information is our currency."
Caveat Emptor

note to self - copyright that line

eaglesphan5 · Post by **eaglesphan5** » May 19, 2005 11:04 pm

Newsweek ran a story about US soldiers flushing the Kuraint down the toilet. This created outrage in the Muslim world. 14 people died because of rioting.
Newsweek had one source and it turned not to be a good source. They retracted the story. The damage had already been done.

Elrod · Post by **Elrod** » May 19, 2005 11:05 pm

land_shark3 wrote:Since I'm one of those people that relies on BN for my news....

Would you mind providing a quick synopsis on what happened?

To many in the Muslim world, it won't matter much that Newsweek retracted its story Monday about U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay prison flushing the Quran down a toilet -- an article that inspired riots in Afghanistan and Pakistan that killed 17 people and injured dozens of others.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... CQB0J1.DTL

Ilph · Post by **Ilph** » May 19, 2005 11:07 pm

Left wing, right wing, communist, or martian what Newsweek did was beyond wrong. People lost their lives over shoddy journalism.

eaglesphan5 · Post by **eaglesphan5** » May 19, 2005 11:17 pm

Left wing, right wing, communist, or martian what Newsweek did was beyond wrong. People lost their lives over shoddy journalism
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I agree, however, this was solely motivated by politcs.

I don't think the peole at Newsweek are dumb and apperantly the reporter is very reputable, until know. They knew what they were doing but they just wanted the story too bad and it blew up in their face.
The same thing with Dan Rather; he wanted the story too bad and was blinded by his bias opinions.

The amazing thing is the press is blaming the Bush administartion for it and attacked the press secretary for the White House "telling Newsweek what to do". I think one reporter asked him "who made you the editor of Newsweek?"

land_shark3 · Post by **land_shark3** » May 19, 2005 11:21 pm

Elrod wrote:
land_shark3 wrote:Since I'm one of those people that relies on BN for my news....

Would you mind providing a quick synopsis on what happened?

To many in the Muslim world, it won't matter much that Newsweek retracted its story Monday about U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay prison flushing the Quran down a toilet -- an article that inspired riots in Afghanistan and Pakistan that killed 17 people and injured dozens of others.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... CQB0J1.DTL

News from BN... now I can sleep well tonight.

sonofabeach · Post by **sonofabeach** » May 19, 2005 11:52 pm

I have not read much about it but was thinking that perhaps it really did happen but after seeing what it did they retracted.
It's not that hard to believe considering the prisoner abuse scandal.

FFishstick · Post by **FFishstick** » May 20, 2005 1:32 am

This story was absolutely undeniably fabricated. It was fiction and Newsweek should be pulled off the shelves. Human Beings lost their lives because of shoddy reporting. I am outraged that the Newsweek management actually tried to brush this off as an "oops" before the official retraction. I am equally outraged by the behavior of our congress, Senate to be exact, both sides of the aisle. To continue to deny the opportunity for the nominations of 7 Judges is unbelievable. The fillibuster tradition is not granted to congress by any law, just as the "up or down vote for judge nominations" is also not guaranteed by law. What is clear, is that our Senators and Representatives are elected to represent the people. Not to block the representation of the people that elected them. If you don't like a nomination, step up and represent with a no vote, but to fillibuster is like a child on the playground taking his ball and going home cause the game is not going his way. There was not a single nomination of President Clinton's blocked in this manner, and it is time for our spoiled crybaby Senate to step up and represent. Do your job senators!!! Sorry in advance if this creates a hijacked thread. But I am sick and tired and.......

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » May 20, 2005 1:45 am

Ilph wrote:Left wing, right wing, communist, or martian what Newsweek did was beyond wrong. People lost their lives over shoddy journalism.

AGREE!!

And the fact is that because of the outrage in the Muslim world, American lives have also been put in jeopardy.

Someone oughtta pay for this with their job..... BIG heads should have rolled...

sonofabeach · Post by **sonofabeach** » May 20, 2005 9:48 am

I guess even if it were true it should not have been reported.

DonnaKayDunbar · Post by **DonnaKayDunbar** » May 20, 2005 9:54 am

I'm up in the air...

one one hand, I can see it happening... given the corruption that has infiltrated some of the prisonercamps... then again... it might not have happened at all... which brings me to Newsweek has a responsibility to the people to NOT run a story that it knows will cause an outrage... because they know people are crazy.

bravedave · Post by **bravedave** » May 20, 2005 10:28 am

FFishstick wrote:This story was absolutely undeniably fabricated.

I disagree, and so does Scott McLelland.
The story was not fabricated; it was based on an unsubstantiated source.
There is a difference.

The Texas ANG Memo story was another example.
Unsubstantiated sources provided tantalizing but spurious information to hungry news outlets.

What do you all think about these sources that "leaked" bad stories?
If they are gov't employees, should they do time?
Whether the stories were true or false makes little difference.
If a rogue cop tells the local hoodlum when the police patrols will be driving past the liquor store, it matters not if his information is true or false.

sonofabeach wrote:I guess even if it were true it should not have been reported.

I disagree with this too.
We reported stories that the nineteen hijackers were muslims, mostly Saudis. This enraged muslim mobs who blamed Israel for framing the poor Arabs and targeted America with more hate for pointing the finger at them.
If this kind of reporting wasn't restricted to protect America's reputation and assets overseas, why should the Quran story be different?

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » May 21, 2005 4:45 am

I flushed a Newsweek magazine down the toilet and it felt SO good.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » May 21, 2005 5:17 am

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
Ilph wrote:Left wing, right wing, communist, or martian what Newsweek did was beyond wrong. People lost their lives over shoddy journalism.
AGREE!!

And the fact is that because of the outrage in the Muslim world, American lives have also been put in jeopardy.

Someone oughtta pay for this with their job..... BIG heads should have rolled...

why not just put those fu...... folks into the Army and sent them
to the FSOTW

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » May 21, 2005 5:18 am

Wino you know wrote:I flushed a Newsweek magazine down the toilet and it felt SO good.

I don't want to see the roto-Rooter Bill....

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » May 21, 2005 5:27 am

I won't.
I did it at work.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » May 21, 2005 5:28 am

Wino you know wrote:I won't.
I did it at work.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » May 21, 2005 5:32 am

That was even more enjoyable than sneaking into the women's restroom and raising the toilet seats.