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By the way, for those who don't know, Stizz is married to a member of the Coral Reefer Band.

Tiki Bar wrote:By the way, for those who don't know, Stizz is married to a member of the Coral Reefer Band.

But he just likes making stuff up to get the coconut telegraph buzzing. Most of the time he's too busy playing poker to come up with any juicy gossip.

land_shark3 wrote:

Tiki Bar wrote:By the way, for those who don't know, Stizz is married to a member of the Coral Reefer Band.

But he just likes making stuff up to get the coconut telegraph buzzing. Most of the time he's too busy playing poker to come up with any juicy gossip.

don't you mean, losing those 30 to 40 dollar royality checks playing online poker?

Actually the poker is on hiatus while I am still ahead (barely)
I estimate that I must have made like close to a penny a minute - does that make me a professional?

You may now continue with the on-topic discussion...

Stizz wrote:Actually the poker is on hiatus while I am still ahead (barely)

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:according to the 60 minute segment the CRB members are independent contractors, not employees of buffett inc.

Good catch...I missed that.

Stizz wrote:Well as usual, Lee has the answers. ..

Or he just got here sooner! Thanks for your comments as well...... I feel so much more in the "know"...

I thought they played for Gumbo

(Sorry, I had to)

Tiki Bar wrote:By the way, for those who don't know, Stizz is married to a member of the Coral Reefer Band.

Man, that Utley gets all the cute ones.

RinglingRingling wrote:

Tiki Bar wrote:By the way, for those who don't know, Stizz is married to a member of the Coral Reefer Band.

Man, that Utley gets all the cute ones.

First, thanks to Lee and Stizz and others that are close to the band for answering this. I know I have been curious about it but never asked because I didn't want someone to think I wanted to know how much they made.

One question here. When they receive royalties from song writing does that include musically too or just lyrically ?

PS.. I thought the band got paid by the show previously. Not a salary.

12vmanRick wrote:First, thanks to Lee and Stizz and others that are close to the band for answering this. I know I have been curious about it but never asked because I didn't want someone to think I wanted to know how much they made.

One question here. When they receive royalties from song writing does that include musically too or just lyrically ?

PS.. I thought the band got paid by the show previously. Not a salary.

Musically I believe - but what do I know ... not much on anything

creeky wrote:

12vmanRick wrote:First, thanks to Lee and Stizz and others that are close to the band for answering this. I know I have been curious about it but never asked because I didn't want someone to think I wanted to know how much they made.

One question here. When they receive royalties from song writing does that include musically too or just lyrically ?

PS.. I thought the band got paid by the show previously. Not a salary.

Musically I believe - but what do I know ... not much on anything

Yea but I love ya anyway.. and I am the same.. dont know Jack Sh!t

12vmanRick wrote:

creeky wrote:

12vmanRick wrote:First, thanks to Lee and Stizz and others that are close to the band for answering this. I know I have been curious about it but never asked because I didn't want someone to think I wanted to know how much they made.

One question here. When they receive royalties from song writing does that include musically too or just lyrically ?

PS.. I thought the band got paid by the show previously. Not a salary.

Musically I believe - but what do I know ... not much on anything

Yea but I love ya anyway.. and I am the same.. dont know Jack Sh!t

- well, I know all sorts of s*** apparently - just not Jack

ASCAP & BMI cracked down on recorded music big time in the 80's. But any juke box company worth a dang builds in the fee to your split of the coinage. The ones that get into trouble are the people who pick up a box at an auction or Sam's Club and do it themselves. They DO get the knock on the door.

Minor League baseball was slammed hard in about '85 and some clubs got huge "royalty" bills for years of playing recorded music. The national Association of Professional Baseball Leagues worked it out and we all started paying a yearly fee there after

12vmanRick wrote:One question here. When they receive royalties from song writing does that include musically too or just lyrically ?

Songwriting is generally defined as melody and lyrics. Generally if two writers work together and one writes the melody (music) while the other comes up with the lyrics, they'll split the royalties 50/50, although they can come up with any number they want.

Cubbie Bear wrote:ASCAP & BMI cracked down on recorded music big time in the 80's. But any juke box company worth a dang builds in the fee to your split of the coinage. The ones that get into trouble are the people who pick up a box at an auction or Sam's Club and do it themselves. They DO get the knock on the door.

Minor League baseball was slammed hard in about '85 and some clubs got huge "royalty" bills for years of playing recorded music. The national Association of Professional Baseball Leagues worked it out and we all started paying a yearly fee there after

Now that I didn't know but I was more asking along the lines of say. Mac and Jimmy collaborate on a song and they need the talented Amy Lee to put the horns to the mix and a little Ralph and Robert magic.. do the others get royalties on the musical portion ?

12vmanRick wrote:
Now that I didn't know but I was more asking along the lines of say. Mac and Jimmy collaborate on a song and they need the talented Amy Lee to put the horns to the mix and a little Ralph and Robert magic.. do the others get royalties on the musical portion ?

Generally no... even if they were to work out cool musical parts it would be more "arrangement" than songwriting, and that doesn't get royalties.

Songwriting is the core words and melody. What you put around them for instrumentation and even musical parts is all arrangement.

Key Lime Lee wrote:

12vmanRick wrote:
Now that I didn't know but I was more asking along the lines of say. Mac and Jimmy collaborate on a song and they need the talented Amy Lee to put the horns to the mix and a little Ralph and Robert magic.. do the others get royalties on the musical portion ?

Generally no... even if they were to work out cool musical parts it would be more "arrangement" than songwriting, and that doesn't get royalties.

Songwriting is the core words and melody. What you put around them for instrumentation and even musical parts is all arrangement.

That answered it more specifically and THANKS as always!

oh and song copyrighting went up to $30 per "session"

Rick and other budding songwriters - you can copyright a whole bunch of songs at one time for one fee, as long as they have the same author(s) - just give them a name like "Ricks June 2005 songs" or whatever for the bunch of them, and then each song will be protected.