LOST HIGHWAY; The History Of American Country

Tampico · Post by **Tampico** » June 26, 2005 8:50 am

For anyone that has the TRIO network on their Cable or Satellite system they will be showing the first 4 parts of this documentary starting tonight at 7PM est.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 1:14 am

did you know that Jay-Z owns Lost Highway Records!?!??!?!? That mean's that Jigga is Willie's boss, and same can be said about Johnny Cash.

i bet hank would be rolling over in his grave.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » July 8, 2005 11:08 am

DsilCaribe wrote:did you know that Jay-Z owns Lost Highway Records!?!??!?!? That mean's that Jigga is Willie's boss, and same can be said about Johnny Cash.

i bet hank would be rolling over in his grave.

I'm not sure where you get your misinformation from but according to this article Jay-Z is owner of Def American Records, not Lost Highway. Lost Highway falls under the broader umbrella of the Universal Music Group but I don't see what Jay-Z's role is in that, if any. If anyone can clarify by all means do so.

http://new.umusic.com/News.aspx?NewsId=239

As for your racist remarks those are totally uncalled for.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 11:18 am

Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:did you know that Jay-Z owns Lost Highway Records!?!??!?!? That mean's that Jigga is Willie's boss, and same can be said about Johnny Cash.

i bet hank would be rolling over in his grave.
I'm not sure where you get your misinformation from but according to this article Jay-Z is owner of Def American Records, not Lost Highway. Lost Highway falls under the broader umbrella of the Universal Music Group but I don't see what Jay-Z's role is in that, if any. If anyone can clarify by all means do so.

http://new.umusic.com/News.aspx?NewsId=239

As for your racist remarks those are totally uncalled for.

My remark had no racist implications at all. It was more directed that i would think that Hank would be rolling over in his grave since a RAPPER is in charge of lost highway, not an african american. I am a big Jay-Z fan, i would never say anything racist. (talk about assuming or putting words in other peoples mouths

)

Shawn "Jay-Z" "H.O.V." "Jigga" Carter is President and C.E.O of Def Jam Records. I believe (but am not sure) that Lost Highway is a subsidiary of the Def Jam group.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 11:20 am

Actually you're right, I was mistaken. He is head of Def Jam Recordings, not Island Def Jam. Lost Highway is a subsidiary of the Island Def Jam group. I dont know if him being head of Def Jam gives him authority over Lost Highway or not, but its still a pretty big accomplishment for a kid who came from the projects, sold crack, and has no business education.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » July 8, 2005 11:30 am

I took the "Hank rolling over in his grave" and the "Jigga" comment to be racists, I didn't realize "Jigga" was a nickname for Jay-Z (or is it?). From what I've read and heard about Hank, Sr. he seemed to be a pretty open-minded fella so I doubt very seriously if he'd be offended by a rapper running a label named after one of his songs but then again, Hank, Sr. isn't here to speak for himself so I'll leave it that. My bigger point being, before spewing such misinformation that "Jay-Z owns Lost Highway" you might be better off doing the necessary research first although I'll be the first to admit that who owns and controls what in today's conglomerate world can be very confusing at times. Still, it's probably wise to get your facts straight first.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 11:33 am

Jahfin wrote:I took the "Hank rolling over in his grave" and the "Jigga" comment to be racists, I didn't realize "Jigga" was a nickname for Jay-Z (or is it?). From what I've read and heard about Hank, Sr. he seemed to be a pretty open-minded fella so I doubt very seriously if he'd be offended by a rapper running a label named after one of his songs but then again, Hank, Sr. isn't here to speak for himself so I'll leave it that. My bigger point being, before spewing such misinformation that "Jay-Z owns Lost Highway" you might be better off doing the necessary research first although I'll be the first to admit that who owns and controls what in today's conglomerate world can be very confusing at times. Still, it's probably wise to get your facts straight first.

Sorry. I missed the "Island" part in Def Jam. He is head of Def Jam though.

I first heard it through a pretty knowledgable friend, so posted it without actually looking it up.

Yes, Jigga is one of Jay-Z's other names. He had a huge hit "Jigga What (Jigga Who)". You also should do the research before accusing or assuming anything about me.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » July 8, 2005 11:51 am

DsilCaribe wrote:You also should do the research before accusing or assuming anything about me.

I did, and found out you were posting false information about Jay-Z owning Lost Highway Records, which he doesn't. From an inside source at Lost Highway (which I cannot reveal):

Jay Z (Sean Carter) is now the head of Island Def Jam, which is based in NYC, and was founded by the incredible Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons back in 85. IDJ is also part of Island Records, which is ran by LA Reid. Both have great pasts in the history and development of the current music business.

IDJ/Island is one of our parent companies, along with Mercury Nashville. We are all under the large umbrella of Universal Music Group but in a way IDJ and Mercury are our surrogate parents.

So, in a nutshell.. Sean has nothing really to do with Lost Highway other than minor affiliation. He isn't at meetings (but it would be cool if he was) and has no input on what happens here.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 11:56 am

Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:You also should do the research before accusing or assuming anything about me.
I did, and found out you were posting false information about Jay-Z owning Lost Highway Records, which he doesn't. From an inside source at Lost Highway (which I cannot reveal):

Jay Z (Sean Carter) is now the head of Island Def Jam, which is based in NYC, and was founded by the incredible Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons back in 85. IDJ is also part of Island Records, which is ran by LA Reid. Both have great pasts in the history and development of the current music business.

IDJ/Island is one of our parent companies, along with Mercury Nashville. We are all under the large umbrella of Universal Music Group but in a way IDJ and Mercury are our surrogate parents.

So, in a nutshell.. Sean has nothing really to do with Lost Highway other than minor affiliation. He isn't at meetings (but it would be cool if he was) and has no input on what happens here.

wow. . .so i was right. He is head of IDJ. cool. Lost Highway is still a subsidiary of IDJ, so by association he technically still owns Lost Highway or is in charge of it or whatever. . . just in reality he doesn't do anything for them

either way, the man grew up in the marcy projects, dropped out of highschool, sold crack just to get by, and has no business education whatsover. Now he is President of IDJ. Thats a pretty big accomplishment.

Jonathan, i was trying to let you know that you should do research on Shawn Carter's stage name "Jigga" before accusing anyone of being racist.

btw, your friend at Lost Highway should really learn how to spell his bosses' name correctly.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » July 8, 2005 12:11 pm

DsilCaribe wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:You also should do the research before accusing or assuming anything about me.
I did, and found out you were posting false information about Jay-Z owning Lost Highway Records, which he doesn't. From an inside source at Lost Highway (which I cannot reveal):

Jay Z (Sean Carter) is now the head of Island Def Jam, which is based in NYC, and was founded by the incredible Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons back in 85. IDJ is also part of Island Records, which is ran by LA Reid. Both have great pasts in the history and development of the current music business.

IDJ/Island is one of our parent companies, along with Mercury Nashville. We are all under the large umbrella of Universal Music Group but in a way IDJ and Mercury are our surrogate parents.

So, in a nutshell.. Sean has nothing really to do with Lost Highway other than minor affiliation. He isn't at meetings (but it would be cool if he was) and has no input on what happens here.
wow. . .so i was right. He is head of IDJ. cool. Lost Highway is still a subsidiary of IDJ, so by association he technically still owns Lost Highway or is in charge of it or whatever. . . just in reality he doesn't do anything for them.

If he doesn't do anything for them that indicates to me that he doesn't have an active hand in the day to day operation of the label itself. Owner of Def Jam or not that tells me his role is totally hands-off at best.

DsilCaribe wrote:Jonathan, i was trying to let you know that you should do research on Shawn Carter's stage name "Jigga" before accusing anyone of being racist.

That was just as much in reference to "Hank rolling over in his grave" as it was to the "Jigga" reference which you must admit appears to be a variation on a racial slur.

DsilCaribe wrote:btw, your friend at Lost Highway should really learn how to spell his bosses' name correctly.

All I was trying to do was clarify who actually owns Lost Highway, the mispelling of Carter's first name is totally beside the point. If it bothers you that much feel free to contact the powers that be at Universal and let them know.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 12:16 pm

Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:Jonathan, i was trying to let you know that you should do research on Shawn Carter's stage name "Jigga" before accusing anyone of being racist.
That was just as much in reference to "Hank rolling over in his grave" as it was to the "Jigga" reference which you must admit appears to be a variation on a racial slur.

that's besides the point. Don't be a hypocrit and tell me to do research when you accuse me and dont even do the research yourself

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 12:18 pm

Jahfin wrote:
Dsil wrote:wow. . .so i was right. He is head of IDJ. cool. Lost Highway is still a subsidiary of IDJ, so by association he technically still owns Lost Highway or is in charge of it or whatever. . . just in reality he doesn't do anything for them.
If he doesn't do anything for them that indicates to me that he doesn't have an active hand in the day to day operation of the label itself. Owner of Def Jam or not that tells me his role is totally hands-off at best.

It doesn't matter if he has an active roll or not, he still owns it, therefore validating my original point whether you like it or not

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » July 8, 2005 12:23 pm

DsilCaribe wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:Jonathan, i was trying to let you know that you should do research on Shawn Carter's stage name "Jigga" before accusing anyone of being racist.
That was just as much in reference to "Hank rolling over in his grave" as it was to the "Jigga" reference which you must admit appears to be a variation on a racial slur.
that's besides the point. Don't be a hypocrit and tell me to do research when you accuse me and dont even do the research yourself

I did and "Jigga" is indeed a variation on "Nigga" which is a racial slur depending upon who's saying it. When one African American refers to another (or in this case, themselves) that way it's not considered offensive.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » July 8, 2005 12:24 pm

DsilCaribe wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
Dsil wrote:wow. . .so i was right. He is head of IDJ. cool. Lost Highway is still a subsidiary of IDJ, so by association he technically still owns Lost Highway or is in charge of it or whatever. . . just in reality he doesn't do anything for them.
If he doesn't do anything for them that indicates to me that he doesn't have an active hand in the day to day operation of the label itself. Owner of Def Jam or not that tells me his role is totally hands-off at best.
It doesn't matter if he has an active roll or not, he still owns it, therefore validating my original point whether you like it or not

No, he owns Def American Records, not Lost Highway. By the way if you're gonna b**** about people's spelling you might wanna learn how to spell "role" correctly first.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 12:29 pm

Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:Jonathan, i was trying to let you know that you should do research on Shawn Carter's stage name "Jigga" before accusing anyone of being racist.
That was just as much in reference to "Hank rolling over in his grave" as it was to the "Jigga" reference which you must admit appears to be a variation on a racial slur.
that's besides the point. Don't be a hypocrit and tell me to do research when you accuse me and dont even do the research yourself
I did and "Jigga" is indeed a variation on "Nigga" which is a racial slur depending upon who's saying it. When one African American refers to another (or in this case, themselves) that way it's not considered offensive.

If anyone says Jigga, they know that "Jigga" isn't a racial slur but rather a stagename for Jay-Z. Google "Jigga". Go to wikipedia and search "jigga". All your results will aim towards Jay-Z

If you actually did do the research then you wouldn't be accusing me of being a racist because Jigga is Jay's other name, nothing racist at all.

Show me where you did research and found where the name "Jigga" is racist. You won't come back with any results.

Just admit that you were wrong.

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » July 8, 2005 12:32 pm

DsilCaribe wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:Jonathan, i was trying to let you know that you should do research on Shawn Carter's stage name "Jigga" before accusing anyone of being racist.
That was just as much in reference to "Hank rolling over in his grave" as it was to the "Jigga" reference which you must admit appears to be a variation on a racial slur.
that's besides the point. Don't be a hypocrit and tell me to do research when you accuse me and dont even do the research yourself
I did and "Jigga" is indeed a variation on "Nigga" which is a racial slur depending upon who's saying it. When one African American refers to another (or in this case, themselves) that way it's not considered offensive.
If anyone says Jigga, they know that "Jigga" isn't a racial slur but rather a stagename for Jay-Z. Google "Jigga". Go to wikipedia and search "jigga". All your results will aim towards Jay-Z

If you actually did do the research then you wouldn't be accusing me of being a racist because Jigga is Jay's other name, nothing racist at all.

Show me where you did research and found where the name "Jigga" is racist. You won't come back with any results.

Just admit that you were wrong.

Jigga = shortened term for Jiggaboo = Racial Slur

Jay Z just tried to make it cool.

With that said, please stop using that freakin' word and please please please stop saying it's not a racial slur, because it is. It's extremely offensive and you're too dense to know better.

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » July 8, 2005 12:33 pm

DsilCaribe wrote:
Just admit that you were wrong.

He wasn't. You are. Now stop using that word.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 12:34 pm

Jahfin wrote:
Jay Z (Sean Carter) is now the head of Island Def Jam, which is based in NYC, and was founded by the incredible Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons back in 85. IDJ is also part of Island Records, which is ran by LA Reid. Both have great pasts in the history and development of the current music business.

IDJ/Island is one of our parent companies, along with Mercury Nashville. We are all under the large umbrella of Universal Music Group but in a way IDJ and Mercury are our surrogate parents.

read your own words. Carter is prez IDJ. IDJ is one of Lost Highway's parents. Therefore, Carter (partially) owns Lost Highway.

Let me put it this way, maybe you can understand it now.

the head of Lost highway = Tiki Bar, phjrsaunt, NYCPORT, any other mod.
Jay-Z, head of IDJ = phjim
head of UMG = who ever is above phjim, if anyone

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » July 8, 2005 12:44 pm

DsilCaribe wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
Jay Z (Sean Carter) is now the head of Island Def Jam, which is based in NYC, and was founded by the incredible Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons back in 85. IDJ is also part of Island Records, which is ran by LA Reid. Both have great pasts in the history and development of the current music business.

IDJ/Island is one of our parent companies, along with Mercury Nashville. We are all under the large umbrella of Universal Music Group but in a way IDJ and Mercury are our surrogate parents.

read your own words. Carter is prez IDJ. IDJ is one of Lost Highway's parents. Therefore, Carter (partially) owns Lost Highway.

Let me put it this way, maybe you can understand it now.

the head of Lost highway = Tiki Bar, phjrsaunt, NYCPORT, any other mod.
Jay-Z, head of IDJ = phjim
head of UMG = who ever is above phjim, if anyone

I didn't write that so those aren't my "own words". And I stand corrected he technically does own Lost Highway but the fact that he doesn't take an active role in it indicates the job of actually running the label is someone else's responsibility.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » July 8, 2005 12:45 pm

buffettbride wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
DsilCaribe wrote:Jonathan, i was trying to let you know that you should do research on Shawn Carter's stage name "Jigga" before accusing anyone of being racist.
That was just as much in reference to "Hank rolling over in his grave" as it was to the "Jigga" reference which you must admit appears to be a variation on a racial slur.
that's besides the point. Don't be a hypocrit and tell me to do research when you accuse me and dont even do the research yourself
I did and "Jigga" is indeed a variation on "Nigga" which is a racial slur depending upon who's saying it. When one African American refers to another (or in this case, themselves) that way it's not considered offensive.
If anyone says Jigga, they know that "Jigga" isn't a racial slur but rather a stagename for Jay-Z. Google "Jigga". Go to wikipedia and search "jigga". All your results will aim towards Jay-Z

If you actually did do the research then you wouldn't be accusing me of being a racist because Jigga is Jay's other name, nothing racist at all.

Show me where you did research and found where the name "Jigga" is racist. You won't come back with any results.

Just admit that you were wrong.
Jigga = shortened term for Jiggaboo = Racial Slur

Jay Z just tried to make it cool.

With that said, please stop using that freakin' word and please please please stop saying it's not a racial slur, because it is. It's extremely offensive and you're too dense to know better.

in this day and age, i dont see how thats racist. Its not something you call anyone anymore. Its what Jay-Z calls himself, its what kids call Jay-Z, its probably his best known stage name. Google "Jigga". Nearly every single result will point towards Jay-Z. I dont really care if you dont want me saying that or not, thats what Jay-Z wants to be called so ill call him that. On his own website, he refers to himself as "Jigga" (http://rocafella.com/artist.aspx?key=1& ... rrent=true) If it offends you so much that kids are calling Jay-Z "Jigga", then you can write to him and explain how you feel. If anything, you should be much more offended that nearly every rap song includes the words "muthaphucka" or "nigga" and refers to women as "bitches"