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Posted: July 13, 2005 10:33 pm
by Jahfin
Jahfin wrote:Never heard the Beatles were influenced by ska, that's a new one on me. Skiffle maybe but I've never heard the ska reference.
Reggae also isn't necessarily a political music or unique to Rastafarians. Yes, they sing it but so do "baldhead" (artists that don't follow the Rastafarian religion) performers such as Toots Hibbert (of Toots and the Maytals) and Jimmy Cliff.
cfisch wrote:Songs by Jimmy Cliff such as "Many Rivers to Cross, The Harder They Come, Suffering in The Land, Hard Road to Travel, plus his movie The Harder They Come" are totaly policital. They way I see it when Reggae was evolving in the late 60's and early 70's the artists who were pioneering it like Bob Marley, Bunny Wailer and Jimmy Cliff were very active and political for the little guys who were struggling in Jamacia. Just because the baldheads sing it dosen't stop making it political. That'sjust my opinion.
My apologies as I didn't mean to imply that the political aspect of reggae was unique to the Rastas.
cfisch wrote:I could have been wrong about the SKA thing and it could have been Skiffle.
Skiffle just seems to make more sense as I don't recall hearing any ska in the early Beatles music although I have a friend that says he thinks their version of "Mr. Postman" has a distinct reggae sound.
Posted: July 14, 2005 10:58 am
by CrznDnUS1
Jahfin wrote:Jahfin wrote:Never heard the Beatles were influenced by ska, that's a new one on me. Skiffle maybe but I've never heard the ska reference.
Reggae also isn't necessarily a political music or unique to Rastafarians. Yes, they sing it but so do "baldhead" (artists that don't follow the Rastafarian religion) performers such as Toots Hibbert (of Toots and the Maytals) and Jimmy Cliff.
cfisch wrote:Songs by Jimmy Cliff such as "Many Rivers to Cross, The Harder They Come, Suffering in The Land, Hard Road to Travel, plus his movie The Harder They Come" are totaly policital. They way I see it when Reggae was evolving in the late 60's and early 70's the artists who were pioneering it like Bob Marley, Bunny Wailer and Jimmy Cliff were very active and political for the little guys who were struggling in Jamacia. Just because the baldheads sing it dosen't stop making it political. That'sjust my opinion.
My apologies as I didn't mean to imply that the political aspect of reggae was unique to the Rastas.
cfisch wrote:I could have been wrong about the SKA thing and it could have been Skiffle.
Skiffle just seems to make more sense as I don't recall hearing any ska in the early Beatles music although I have a friend that says he thinks their version of "Mr. Postman" has a distinct reggae sound.
The problem is that SKA, Skiffle and, lots of other music are so blurred together that it is hard to tell them apart sometimes. Now I agree with the comment made earlier, that now i don't know what to do. Oh well, as long as you enjoy it and it sounds good, have fun!
Posted: July 14, 2005 11:14 am
by Jahfin
cfisch wrote:Jahfin wrote:Jahfin wrote:Never heard the Beatles were influenced by ska, that's a new one on me. Skiffle maybe but I've never heard the ska reference.
Reggae also isn't necessarily a political music or unique to Rastafarians. Yes, they sing it but so do "baldhead" (artists that don't follow the Rastafarian religion) performers such as Toots Hibbert (of Toots and the Maytals) and Jimmy Cliff.
cfisch wrote:Songs by Jimmy Cliff such as "Many Rivers to Cross, The Harder They Come, Suffering in The Land, Hard Road to Travel, plus his movie The Harder They Come" are totaly policital. They way I see it when Reggae was evolving in the late 60's and early 70's the artists who were pioneering it like Bob Marley, Bunny Wailer and Jimmy Cliff were very active and political for the little guys who were struggling in Jamacia. Just because the baldheads sing it dosen't stop making it political. That'sjust my opinion.
My apologies as I didn't mean to imply that the political aspect of reggae was unique to the Rastas.
cfisch wrote:I could have been wrong about the SKA thing and it could have been Skiffle.
Skiffle just seems to make more sense as I don't recall hearing any ska in the early Beatles music although I have a friend that says he thinks their version of "Mr. Postman" has a distinct reggae sound.
The problem is that SKA, Skiffle and, lots of other music are so blurred together that it is hard to tell them apart sometimes. Now I agree with the comment made earlier, that now i don't know what to do. Oh well, as long as you enjoy it and it sounds good, have fun!
I guess it's how we all percieve different music indvidually but I hear no resemblence between Skiffle and Ska whatsoever. Ska has it's origins in the islands and Skiffle is indigenous to Britian. If you care to do any further reading I found this definition of Skiffle online:
http://www.ohek.co.uk/skiffhist.htm
"'Skiffle' was a British term of the twenties, describing the replacement of legitimate jazz instruments by washboards (percussion), tea-chest-and-broom-handle bass, guitar and kazoo. The musical sources were primarily American black and folk idioms."
...and just to clarify, I don't mean any of this to be argumentative, I just don't see any corellation between the two.