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UT will NOT beat the Gators this year

ParrotheadGator wrote:UT will NOT beat the Gators this year

The Gators will be middle of the SEC tops. Meyers system is complicated and UF is not known for it's academic achievements. Plus it will take a couple of years for Meyer to recruit the athletes he needs in his system.

ParrotheadGator wrote:UT will NOT beat the Gators this year

[cough]bull sh!t[/cough]

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:UT will NOT beat the Gators this year

The Gators will be middle of the SEC tops. Meyers system is complicated and UF is not known for it's academic achievements. Plus it will take a couple of years for Meyer to recruit the athletes he needs in his system.

Yea,maybe UF should invest in some of them Tennessee tooters

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:UT will NOT beat the Gators this year

The Gators will be middle of the SEC tops. Meyers system is complicated and UF is not known for it's academic achievements. Plus it will take a couple of years for Meyer to recruit the athletes he needs in his system.

You have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

UF not known for it's academic achievements? Should I steal the "I have 10 seconds....." line?

As for athletes, he has the players. We've got one of the most athletic group of receivers in the country. Leak is just a stud. Leak has great raw talent, but he (as did the rest of the team) suffered under terrible coaching. As for the SEC, it's in a down year. UT will be good, UGA lost every major player, LSU lost their coach - the only reason they were good-, and AU lost hteir entire defense, QB, and RB's. USC doesn't have the talent for Spurrier to win yet. The rest of the SEC...well....it's UK, Vandy, Ole Miss....no threats there.

Meanwhile, UF returns every major starter. Returns the entire defense except 2 players, 1 of who sucked anyway. The offense returns everybody but Fason. More experience, MUCH better coach, 100 times more discipline....and this from a team who only lost as many games as they did because they blew most of them in the last minutes of the game.

ParrotheadGator wrote:

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:UT will NOT beat the Gators this year

The Gators will be middle of the SEC tops. Meyers system is complicated and UF is not known for it's academic achievements. Plus it will take a couple of years for Meyer to recruit the athletes he needs in his system.

You have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

UF not known for it's academic achievements? Should I steal the "I have 10 seconds....." line?

As for athletes, he has the players. We've got one of the most athletic group of receivers in the country. Leak is just a stud. Leak has great raw talent, but he (as did the rest of the team) suffered under terrible coaching. As for the SEC, it's in a down year. UT will be good, UGA lost every major player, LSU lost their coach - the only reason they were good-, and AU lost hteir entire defense, QB, and RB's. USC doesn't have the talent for Spurrier to win yet. The rest of the SEC...well....it's UK, Vandy, Ole Miss....no threats there.

Meanwhile, UF returns every major starter. Returns the entire defense except 2 players, 1 of who sucked anyway. The offense returns everybody but Fason. More experience, MUCH better coach, 100 times more discipline....and this from a team who only lost as many games as they did because they blew most of them in the last minutes of the game.

The schools lack of academic integrity is evident everytime you post emily.
Ok for those of you that have never played the game I will clarify. New systems take time to learn. Meyers' system is very complex. It took Alex Smith A couple of years to learn it and he is very intelligent. I can guarantee that I have watched Meyers' Offense a hell of a lot more than you ever will. It does not matter what athletes you have, they may not be the athletes for your system. This takes time. Nebraska is a prime example. They went 10-3 when they fired Solich. They are a great program which had the athletes. However, they did not have athletes that fit their new system. Another example Ty Willingham at Notre Dame. Great coach who did not have the athletes for his system.

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:UT will NOT beat the Gators this year

The Gators will be middle of the SEC tops. Meyers system is complicated and UF is not known for it's academic achievements. Plus it will take a couple of years for Meyer to recruit the athletes he needs in his system.

You have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

UF not known for it's academic achievements? Should I steal the "I have 10 seconds....." line?

As for athletes, he has the players. We've got one of the most athletic group of receivers in the country. Leak is just a stud. Leak has great raw talent, but he (as did the rest of the team) suffered under terrible coaching. As for the SEC, it's in a down year. UT will be good, UGA lost every major player, LSU lost their coach - the only reason they were good-, and AU lost hteir entire defense, QB, and RB's. USC doesn't have the talent for Spurrier to win yet. The rest of the SEC...well....it's UK, Vandy, Ole Miss....no threats there.

Meanwhile, UF returns every major starter. Returns the entire defense except 2 players, 1 of who sucked anyway. The offense returns everybody but Fason. More experience, MUCH better coach, 100 times more discipline....and this from a team who only lost as many games as they did because they blew most of them in the last minutes of the game.

The schools lack of academic integrity is evident everytime you post emily.
Ok for those of you that have never played the game I will clarify. New systems take time to learn. Meyers' system is very complex. It took Alex Smith A couple of years to learn it and he is very intelligent. I can guarantee that I have watched Meyers' Offense a hell of a lot more than you ever will. It does not matter what athletes you have, they may not be the athletes for your system. This takes time. Nebraska is a prime example. They went 10-3 when they fired Solich. They are a great program which had the athletes. However, they did not have athletes that fit their new system. Another example Ty Willingham at Notre Dame. Great coach who did not have the athletes for his system.

Interesting...they said the same thing about UF when Spurrier came to town. No talent, take a long time to implement a complicated system. And damned if they didn't win the SEC. Hmmmm.

I have confidence that Leak and co. will pick up the system. We're talking about a guy who doesn't go to parties, doesn't date, does NOTHING but sit in his room and watch game tape and study the play book. Since Meyer got here, his receivers joined him. After just a short amount of time, they looked half decent at the Orange and Blue game last spring. After all this time....I'd put money on it that they'll be better than you think.

ParrotheadGator wrote:Interesting...they said the same thing about UF when Spurrier came to town. No talent, take a long time to implement a complicated system. And damned if they didn't win the SEC. Hmmmm.

I have confidence that Leak and co. will pick up the system. We're talking about a guy who doesn't go to parties, doesn't date, does NOTHING but sit in his room and watch game tape and study the play book. Since Meyer got here, his receivers joined him. After just a short amount of time, they looked half decent at the Orange and Blue game last spring. After all this time....I'd put money on it that they'll be better than you think.

I know very little about Leak. (The fact that he is a gaytor is really a negative on his record)
Meyer has a tough system to learn and/or implement. The SEC has changed since Spurrier arrived. Meyer is not Steve Spurrier and never will be.

All of these are resons that they will not beat Tenn.

GO VOLS !!!!


GO SEC !!!!!

GO INSTANT REPLAY !!!!

This year is gonna be so much better than last year!!!
That pic of Neyland Stadium gave me chills and palpitations!!!

I'm with you citcat!!!

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:Interesting...they said the same thing about UF when Spurrier came to town. No talent, take a long time to implement a complicated system. And damned if they didn't win the SEC. Hmmmm.

I have confidence that Leak and co. will pick up the system. We're talking about a guy who doesn't go to parties, doesn't date, does NOTHING but sit in his room and watch game tape and study the play book. Since Meyer got here, his receivers joined him. After just a short amount of time, they looked half decent at the Orange and Blue game last spring. After all this time....I'd put money on it that they'll be better than you think.

I know very little about Leak. (The fact that he is a gaytor is really a negative on his record)
Meyer has a tough system to learn and/or implement. The SEC has changed since Spurrier arrived. Meyer is not Steve Spurrier and never will be.

All of these are resons that they will not beat Tenn.

The fact that you know nothing about the players and already have a negative bias towards the Gators proves your ignorance...you have no credibility

ParrotheadGator wrote:

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:Interesting...they said the same thing about UF when Spurrier came to town. No talent, take a long time to implement a complicated system. And damned if they didn't win the SEC. Hmmmm.

I have confidence that Leak and co. will pick up the system. We're talking about a guy who doesn't go to parties, doesn't date, does NOTHING but sit in his room and watch game tape and study the play book. Since Meyer got here, his receivers joined him. After just a short amount of time, they looked half decent at the Orange and Blue game last spring. After all this time....I'd put money on it that they'll be better than you think.

I know very little about Leak. (The fact that he is a gaytor is really a negative on his record)
Meyer has a tough system to learn and/or implement. The SEC has changed since Spurrier arrived. Meyer is not Steve Spurrier and never will be.

All of these are resons that they will not beat Tenn.

The fact that you know nothing about the players and already have a negative bias towards the Gators proves your ignorance...you have no credibility

The fact that you know nothing about football negates yours as well. So let's continue the conversation. I may learn something about the Gaytors, and you may learn something about the game.

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:Interesting...they said the same thing about UF when Spurrier came to town. No talent, take a long time to implement a complicated system. And damned if they didn't win the SEC. Hmmmm.

I have confidence that Leak and co. will pick up the system. We're talking about a guy who doesn't go to parties, doesn't date, does NOTHING but sit in his room and watch game tape and study the play book. Since Meyer got here, his receivers joined him. After just a short amount of time, they looked half decent at the Orange and Blue game last spring. After all this time....I'd put money on it that they'll be better than you think.

I know very little about Leak. (The fact that he is a gaytor is really a negative on his record)
Meyer has a tough system to learn and/or implement. The SEC has changed since Spurrier arrived. Meyer is not Steve Spurrier and never will be.

All of these are resons that they will not beat Tenn.

The fact that you know nothing about the players and already have a negative bias towards the Gators proves your ignorance...you have no credibility

The fact that you know nothing about football negates yours as well. So let's continue the conversation. I may learn something about the Gaytors, and you may learn something about the game.

I know my game well and my team even better

Or weakness this year will be our defense. We do return almost all of our starts, but we're still thin CB and LB. We have some very talented and good LB's, but the 2nd string are inexperienced. That part worries me. But then, we were even more thin and had less experience last year and they did ok....plus they get to keep their defensive coach. Not just a coincidence that once Zook let Charlie Strong run HIS defense and not Zook's, our defense dominated the rest of the season.

ParrotheadGator wrote:Interesting...they said the same thing about UF when Spurrier came to town. No talent, take a long time to implement a complicated system. And damned if they didn't win the SEC. Hmmmm.

A few points here: There was plenty of talent when Spurrier took over. Also, Spurrier's “system” was not complicated. Because it was so successful, people assume it was complicated, but most people familiar with the game agree that his "system" is not a complicated one. Conversely, Meyer's offense is very complicated. Lastly, Spurrier & his offense changed the face of the SEC and forced the rest of the league to change not only the way it played defense, but also the way it offense. I don’t mean this as a jab, but Meyer's will be just another offense. He has had great success with it at Utah, which is as far from the SEC in distance as it is in competition, and he may have great success at Florida, but I don’t think it will be this year.

ParrotheadGator wrote:I have confidence that Leak and co. will pick up the system. We're talking about a guy who doesn't go to parties, doesn't date, does NOTHING but sit in his room and watch game tape and study the play book. Since Meyer got here, his receivers joined him. After just a short amount of time, they looked half decent at the Orange and Blue game last spring. After all this time....I'd put money on it that they'll be better than you think.

Just b/c the guy can’t get a date doesn’t mean that he is studying. Seriously though, Meyer’s qb’s take a lot of licks, and I think that even most lizards agree that toughness is not exactly one of Chrissie’s traits. He has a strong arm, good pocket presence, and good enough wheels to gain a few yards when flushed out of the pocket. He can get rattled when he is pressured, and I think the Vols will be able to pressure him. Our front 7 is awfully good and we’ve got better depth on the D-line than we’ve had is a long long time.

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:

hikingontuesday wrote:Go Ducks!

i plan on having peking duck for dinner Oct 22

Ok, don't tell my friends, but I have a feeling that UA will beat us this year. Your program is on the rise, I do believe that.

I just scored tickets to the USC and UW game. I can't cook Husky like Pair8head's friend cooks Ducks, but sometimes I wish I could!! When I was in Seattle it was like a danger zone with my Duck sticker on my car!!

Wish I could make it to the Duck/Sun Devil game, but I'm running the Portland Marathon the next day -- UNLESS... do you want to fly me back??

PHBeerman wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:UT will NOT beat the Gators this year

The Gators will be middle of the SEC tops. Meyers system is complicated and UF is not known for it's academic achievements. Plus it will take a couple of years for Meyer to recruit the athletes he needs in his system.

Guess what guys.....until September 17th you're both right!!!

GO BLUE!!!!!!

P.S. Go easy on my Wolverines there B'Man!

Fins in Low Places wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:Interesting...they said the same thing about UF when Spurrier came to town. No talent, take a long time to implement a complicated system. And damned if they didn't win the SEC. Hmmmm.

A few points here: There was plenty of talent when Spurrier took over. Also, Spurrier's “system” was not complicated. Because it was so successful, people assume it was complicated, but most people familiar with the game agree that his "system" is not a complicated one. Conversely, Meyer's offense is very complicated. Lastly, Spurrier & his offense changed the face of the SEC and forced the rest of the league to change not only the way it played defense, but also the way it offense. I don’t mean this as a jab, but Meyer's will be just another offense. He has had great success with it at Utah, which is as far from the SEC in distance as it is in competition, and he may have great success at Florida, but I don’t think it will be this year.

ParrotheadGator wrote:I have confidence that Leak and co. will pick up the system. We're talking about a guy who doesn't go to parties, doesn't date, does NOTHING but sit in his room and watch game tape and study the play book. Since Meyer got here, his receivers joined him. After just a short amount of time, they looked half decent at the Orange and Blue game last spring. After all this time....I'd put money on it that they'll be better than you think.

Just b/c the guy can’t get a date doesn’t mean that he is studying. Seriously though, Meyer’s qb’s take a lot of licks, and I think that even most lizards agree that toughness is not exactly one of Chrissie’s traits. He has a strong arm, good pocket presence, and good enough wheels to gain a few yards when flushed out of the pocket. He can get rattled when he is pressured, and I think the Vols will be able to pressure him. Our front 7 is awfully good and we’ve got better depth on the D-line than we’ve had is a long long time.

I'm aware of all the facts about Spurrier's entrance into the SEC....but at the time, in 1990, that wasn't the case. The same things that are being said about Meyer were said about Spurrier...now, there's no way possible Meyer can change the game the way Spurrier did.....and I'm honestly not even completely sold on the possibility of it working (too gimicky perhaps?)

LOL...I don't think dating would be an issue from him...every chick I've been around would jump his bones in a heart beat
I will agree w/ you there. After getting hit quite a lot last year, he got skittish at times. Although there were games where he got hammered and still got up and just kicked some butt. His consistency from game to game kinda worries me, but I think that was largely due to Zaun changing his mechanics early on....Meyer's first task here was to correct Leak's mechanics, which he has done. I do like that Meyer runs out of the shotgun more. We also have what has been billed as possibly one of the top offensive lines in the country. We return all our starters and a couple of the freshman from last year gained a ton of good experience. Hopefully Meyer's scheme will be able to spread the field enough to keep your LB's back. If he tries too much short game and lets the LB's close in, we could be in trouble

Day Date Opponent Location TV Outcome/Time
Sat 09/03/2005 Miami (Oh) (1) Columbus, OH ABC 12:00 PM
Sat 09/10/2005 Texas Columbus, OH ABC 8:00 PM
Sat 09/17/2005 San Diego State (2) Columbus, OH ABC 3:30 PM
Sat 09/24/2005 Iowa Columbus, OH TBA TBA
Sat 10/08/2005 Penn State University Park, PA ESPN2/ESPN 7:00/7:45 PM
Sat 10/15/2005 Michigan State (3) Columbus, OH TBA TBA
Sat 10/22/2005 Indiana Bloomington, IN TBA TBA
Sat 10/29/2005 Minnesota Minneapolis, MN TBA TBA
Sat 11/05/2005 Illinois Columbus, OH TBA TBA
Sat 11/12/2005 Northwestern Columbus, OH TBA TBA
Sat 11/19/2005 Michigan Ann Arbor, MI TBA TBA (This day will make the Doc BLUE)!!!

The night game at Penn State scares me but if we get by that, I see



for the Bucks this year.

Penn STate hasn't scared anybody in years...unless you're looking too close at Joe Pa....

ParrotheadGator wrote:Penn STate hasn't scared anybody in years...unless you're looking too close at Joe Pa....

The man is a little scary no doubt.....

Penn St's defense will be killer this year. Everyones back and they didn't allow more than 21 points to anyone all last season. I think they may surprise you this year. It's the night game atmosphere in "happy valley" that has me concerned.....