Computer/Tech/Networking Assistance

[Parrot Monkey]

Router/Wireless Network Troubles

Ok, here’s the deal. I had this Dell Dimension in my room (running a P4) for 3 years, and it’s all of that time it’s just been a gaming and music machine. Many times since then I’ve seen it to a waste of technology as it was without internet access, and this computer here in the TV room, which is a 8 year old P2, has been doing the deed of getting us online.

So, anyway my parents and myself decided it’s time to finally go online with my own computer, so we purchased a Linksys Wireless-G Router to hook up in the TV room, as well as the corresponding PCI card for the machine in my room. Both are set up hardware wise, and for the most part software wise. See, this computer here that’s the host is running Windows 98 Second Edition, while my room has XP Home w/ Service Pack 2. So, the host is a bit behind, and the client is more up to date, so this may cause computability issues. But, with software updates and all, 98 is supposed to be able to do the job.

The Linksys utility software on the computer in my room reads this:

“You are connected to the access point, but the internet could not be found”.

But, this computer here is obviously online! I’m on the network, but the internet connection just doesn’t want to share.

Any help here is appreciated. I can provide additional information to those who may know.

Thanks.

[RinglingRingling]

Router/Wireless Network Troubles

Ok, here’s the deal. I had this Dell Dimension in my room (running a P4) for 3 years, and it’s all of that time it’s just been a gaming and music machine. Many times since then I’ve seen it to a waste of technology as it was without internet access, and this computer here in the TV room, which is a 8 year old P2, has been doing the deed of getting us online.

So, anyway my parents and myself decided it’s time to finally go online with my own computer, so we purchased a Linksys Wireless-G Router to hook up in the TV room, as well as the corresponding PCI card for the machine in my room. Both are set up hardware wise, and for the most part software wise. See, this computer here that’s the host is running Windows 98 Second Edition, while my room has XP Home w/ Service Pack 2. So, the host is a bit behind, and the client is more up to date, so this may cause computability issues. But, with software updates and all, 98 is supposed to be able to do the job.

The Linksys utility software on the computer in my room reads this:

“You are connected to the access point, but the internet could not be found”.

But, this computer here is obviously online! I’m on the network, but the internet connection just doesn’t want to share.

Any help here is appreciated. I can provide additional information to those who may know.

Thanks.

You've been using the originals. You need to read the updated liner notes that came with the new router... :D:D:D

[zanth]

I was a bit confused by your host/client references. The proper way to hook this stuff up is as follows:

Cable model/DSL
|
Linksys Router
/ \
PC1 PC2
(wireless) (wired)

The router is what shares out the Internet connection, not either of the PC's

Can you elaborate on your setup?

[Parrot Monkey]

Yes, I know but you've got to do all the inital configurations through the wired machine... correct?

The setup matches.

[zanth]

Yes, I know but you've got to do all the inital configurations through the wired machine... correct?

The setup matches.

If you have it set up right, the wired machine's network setting should just be set to DCHP (aquire Internet Address/IP address automatically)

The wireless machine should have all the settings for your wireless network.

Now, in reference to which machine you can adjust the settings on the router from, can be either. To check this, open a web browser on either machine and go to http://192.168.1.1 You should get a logon screen asking for a username and password

[sy]

You've been using the originals. You need to read the updated liner notes that came with the new router... :D:D:D

So bad.....so bad......

[Parrot Monkey]

Yes, I attempted to access the router settings on the wireless machine using that address, but it dosen't come up...

[sy]

But, this computer here is obviously online! I’m on the network, but the internet connection just doesn’t want to share.

Any help here is appreciated. I can provide additional information to those who may know.

Thanks.

First thing is to make sure that the internet is actually working. You can plug in the cable to whatever machine is closest to make sure. If the internet isn't working, then nothing you do is going to help. I'm assuming you've probably already done that , though.

Some routers, depending on the model, need to have the wizard run to set up the configuration. In the manual, it should tell you the IP, which is normally either 192.168.1.1, 192.168.0.1, or 192.168.2.1 and it will tell you the default login. You should be able to do that from either the wired or wireless machine. Once in there, the manual or quick start guide will tell you the quick way to set it up.

Also preferable that you add an encryption key and change the router password/

[Parrot Monkey]

The internet is good, as the wired machine is the one I'm on now.

Tried all that, went through all the configurations and all. Changed the password.

[sy]

The internet is good, as the wired machine is the one I'm on now.

Tried all that, went through all the configurations and all. Changed the password.

So the 98 one (the one hooked wired, if I read this right) is working fine on the internet, and the wireless one is the one that's not working, which is XP?

[zanth]

Also, on the wireless, if you do a scan for nearby wireless networks, do you see anything? If yes, go into your network settings and make sure everything in there is set to automatically obtain address...

[Parrot Monkey]

So the 98 one (the one hooked wired, if I read this right) is working fine on the internet, and the wireless one is the one that's not working, which is XP?

Yes, this is correct.

Also, on the wireless, if you do a scan for nearby wireless networks, do you see anything? If yes, go into your network settings and make sure everything in there is set to automatically obtain address...

The XP one does that and finds the network and lets me connect to it. But still, I can't access the internet or the router settings from it. 98 dosen't have as easy to use features that really tell you much about the networking deal as XP.

[Lastplaneout]

Also, on the wireless, if you do a scan for nearby wireless networks, do you see anything? If yes, go into your network settings and make sure everything in there is set to automatically obtain address...

Correct..also if you can receive a signal from the router...go into your connection properties...and where it shows which networks you may want to connect to, under the wireless networks tab there's a box up at the top..."Allow windows to configure my wireless connection"

That may help...if push comes to shove you can always just use the router as a hardwired access point only....do not use the other comp as a server....plug the router directly into the wall and access it that way...that's what I do with my laptop here...router ontop of the TV and ;aptop over here unde my hut

[RinglingRingling]

So the 98 one (the one hooked wired, if I read this right) is working fine on the internet, and the wireless one is the one that's not working, which is XP?

Yes, this is correct.

Also, on the wireless, if you do a scan for nearby wireless networks, do you see anything? If yes, go into your network settings and make sure everything in there is set to automatically obtain address...

The XP one does that and finds the network and lets me connect to it. But still, I can't access the internet or the router settings from it. 98 dosen't have as easy to use features that really tell you much about the networking deal as XP.

the easiest thing to do at this point is to back up your data, and format the older machine to run an OS that has better networking support...

[Parrot Monkey]

Correct..also if you can receive a signal from the router...go into your connection properties...and where it shows which networks you may want to connect to, under the wireless networks tab there's a box up at the top..."Allow windows to configure my wireless connection"

That may help...if push comes to shove you can always just use the router as a hardwired access point only....do not use the other comp as a server....plug the router directly into the wall and access it that way...that's what I do with my laptop here...router ontop of the TV and ;aptop over here unde my hut

I did the first thing. How exactly does that hardwired thing work?

[Parrot Monkey]

the easiest thing to do at this point is to back up your data, and format the older machine to run an OS that has better networking support...

I've been told by a tech that this computer here won't be able to handle Win Me, so it's certainly not going to be able to run XP...

[RinglingRingling]

the easiest thing to do at this point is to back up your data, and format the older machine to run an OS that has better networking support...

I've been told by a tech that this computer here won't be able to handle Win Me, so it's certainly not going to be able to run XP...

Then go for the direct hard-wired option. The P2 machine is good for running old games, and the like, but it is just a choke-point.

[Lastplaneout]

Ok....here's the drill.

Cable/Phone Line (Either DSL or Cable whatever you have) into the cable/dsl modem...now from the modem into the router. Now what you have is a dedicated access point...you should be able to access this from your comp with the wireless card. Much faster than going through an old machine.

Now access your router through the IP addy they give you by default and setup any encryption keys you may want to use. It should definitely work this way

[Parrot Monkey]

But will I be without internet on this computer here? This may get the comp. in my room online, but I still need access here, or else the whole purpose of my own personal computer will be defeated as I'll get my parents comming in my room for internet access.

So, should I unplug the cable going from this PC to the router then hit the reset button and start from scratch?

[Lastplaneout]

well now you can still run the old comp by connecting a cable from one of the open slots on the router ino that computer...it will run like it did before...it just gets the net through the router instead of directly from the modem...and you still pickup the wireless signal from your room