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Posted: August 4, 2005 3:13 pm
by Parrot Monkey
Ok, I'll give it a try.
To do this I unplug the cable going from this PC to the router then hit the reset button on the back of th router, right?
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:15 pm
by Lastplaneout
El Correcto
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:16 pm
by Parrot Monkey
Ok, then where do I run all the setup programs from to set up the router?
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:24 pm
by Lastplaneout
Parrot Monkey wrote:Ok, then where do I run all the setup programs from to set up the router?
access the router through your computer....you only need all the setup crap if you are running it through another comp and sharing it as you were before
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:24 pm
by Lastplaneout
windows will auto detect most of the required settings
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:38 pm
by Parrot Monkey
I started from scratch (unpluged the cord from this PC to the router and hit the rest button on the router) , but It still didn't do anything with the PC in my room. Just says connected to the linksys network (I don't have a name for it anymore since I reset it). It asked for a network key, but it wasn't clear if it was asking for something that existed or for me to create one. I created one I believe...
I had to plug the network cable back in to this computer to be able to talk to you. I have not run any of the software that came with the router yet this go-round.
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:39 pm
by Lastplaneout
hmmm..damn.....do you have the manual?....what does it suggest in the troubleshooting section?
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:42 pm
by Parrot Monkey
No real manual came with it, just brouchures that are more about the parental controls then the actual router. There are some FAQ on one of them, but it wasn't much help.
And the light labeled "Internet" on the router is lit...
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:43 pm
by Lastplaneout
Try the linksys web site..they always have their setups available online
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:45 pm
by Parrot Monkey
Ah, son of a...
They won't let me into their technical support stuff, "Windows XP Users Only"... I even tried and it wouldn't let me in... GAH!!
Posted: August 4, 2005 3:48 pm
by Lastplaneout
Posted: August 4, 2005 5:06 pm
by Parrot Monkey
There is another dilemma I should mention. When installing my wireless PCI card, all my PCI slots were full (from top to bottom Video, Ethernet, Modem, Sound). So, I had to remove one of those cards, and Video and Sound were certainly not in the selection. I chose the Ethernet card, because it was the highest one up and I figured it’s the same thing as the wireless card, just for corded networks. So I disabled it, uninstalled the driver then physically removed the hardware. Afterwards I replaced it with my wireless G card. Upon closing the case and putting on the antenna, I noticed right above the slot I put my wireless card was the video card, and that a the rather wide, chunky cord from the monitor that needs to plug into the video card gets in the way of the antenna! So, I had to put it on a sharp slant. It works I guess (at least it recognizes the router), but I’m sure I could get better reception if it could be straight up in the air.
I know the logical thing to do is to swap the two cards, but I can only expect the software department to get cranky after the swap, so I’m probably going to have to uninstall both cards, do the switch and THEN reinstall them. This is no problem with the wireless card, but I’m not to crazy about removing the video card, as I’ve never done that. How can I uninstall/reinstall it without loosing the display? I’m going to have to plug the monitor into the on-board display, go into the BIOS and temporarily change that while the card is in the uninstall/install process, aren’t I?
Posted: August 4, 2005 5:39 pm
by Lastplaneout
no..not really...swapping PCI's isn't really that big of an issue. The only problems can come with popping out sound cards and such when building a new system. Sound cards love to be little bastards when it comes to IRQ issues. Just pop the 2 out and you shouldn't have a problem
Also go into your device manager to make sure every aspect of the old Ethernet card is gone so no conflict occurs
Posted: August 4, 2005 5:40 pm
by sy
Parrot Monkey wrote:I know the logical thing to do is to swap the two cards, but I can only expect the software department to get cranky after the swap, so I’m probably going to have to uninstall both cards, do the switch and THEN reinstall them. This is no problem with the wireless card, but I’m not to crazy about removing the video card, as I’ve never done that. How can I uninstall/reinstall it without loosing the display? I’m going to have to plug the monitor into the on-board display, go into the BIOS and temporarily change that while the card is in the uninstall/install process, aren’t I?
I've never Not been able to just turn a machine off, swap what I need to swap, and then turn it back on. If it's the xp machine, you shouldn't get more than maybe a pop up saying new hardware detected and it will self adjust itself. With 98, you might get a popup prompting you for the 98 cd.
I've never needed or heard of having to uninstall anything, swap, and then reinstall, unless there's some point I'm missing. Turn the machine off, swap the cards, and turn it back on. Worse comes to worse, it won't boot up right, then you just turn it off and swap it back.
Posted: August 4, 2005 5:46 pm
by Lastplaneout
sy wrote:Parrot Monkey wrote:I know the logical thing to do is to swap the two cards, but I can only expect the software department to get cranky after the swap, so I’m probably going to have to uninstall both cards, do the switch and THEN reinstall them. This is no problem with the wireless card, but I’m not to crazy about removing the video card, as I’ve never done that. How can I uninstall/reinstall it without loosing the display? I’m going to have to plug the monitor into the on-board display, go into the BIOS and temporarily change that while the card is in the uninstall/install process, aren’t I?
I've never Not been able to just turn a machine off, swap what I need to swap, and then turn it back on. If it's the xp machine, you shouldn't get more than maybe a pop up saying new hardware detected and it will self adjust itself. With 98, you might get a popup prompting you for the 98 cd.
I've never needed or heard of having to uninstall anything, swap, and then reinstall, unless there's some point I'm missing. Turn the machine off, swap the cards, and turn it back on. Worse comes to worse, it won't boot up right, then you just turn it off and swap it back.
It's not too common anymore since XP has eliminated most resource conflicts. But from time to time a problem can occur when installing something new....then you generally have to remove any components that could be causing a resource issue and install one by one to get the order correct....though like I said not too common anymore...now if It was a 98 OS then it's a little different..I have wasted so much time with issues like this back in the day
Don't worry about any of that though man. It won't happen
Question is then how the hell did I get on this topic..dear lord...

Posted: August 4, 2005 6:04 pm
by Parrot Monkey
Oh, Ok, I thought so, I just wanted to make sure I didn't confuse the system any. I'll be swapping them soon. This should give the signal more strength, but I'll still need to work on the other problem...
Posted: August 4, 2005 8:00 pm
by Parrot Monkey
Gah, I can't switch the cards, because the Video Card is in the AGP slot, so it can't be moved! The antenna still isn't able to stick straight up. How come this issue with antennas has never appeared in any troubleshooting and FAQs I've read? Someone else has to have had the issue.
Posted: August 4, 2005 9:22 pm
by buffettbride
Have ya tried putting the thingy in the dinger? That sometimes works for me.
Posted: August 4, 2005 10:23 pm
by Capt.Flock
try this click on network connection on the bottom left hand screen.
the network connections screen comes up click on the properties tab
in the following connection uses there screen scroll down to the last line which should be TCP/Ip highlite this the hit then propeerties tab on that screen u want to have the obtain ip address on ip this is for the puter that is the wireless.
hope this helps some
Posted: August 4, 2005 11:55 pm
by joe_pyrat
PM,
There a couple of commands you can use to determine if your systems are seeing the router. I Linksys uses 192.168.0.1 for their routers default IP address.
1. Go to the XP system click Start, then click Run.
2. In the space available in the Run box, type in cmd and hit return/enter
This will bring up a command line window and the system prompt. Which will look like C:\Documents and Settings\username on the XP system and something similar on the 98 system.
3. At the command prompt, type in ping 192.168.0.1 You should see 4 responses that look like this:
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
This indicates the system can see the router. This should not be a problem for the wired system; you may see something indicating the connection could not be made from the wireless system.
4. When you are done type exit and hit return at the command prompt to exit the command line window.
Let me know what the result is and let me know what the model number of your router is so I can check its online reference manual.
Also did you activate WEP encryption?