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Alot of horrible footage on today. Also some interviews of the men who flew the run. This is one reason to be happy for modern advances. It has made a considerable reduction in civilian casualties when you are forced to respond.

Peace.

War is hell. (I think I've earned the right to say that).

But let's see if I have this straight-
We dropped two bombs,
the war ended,
THE GOOD GUYS WON!

THE END

I hope this doesn't get me banned too

If the bombs had not been dropped, there is no telling how many HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of lives it would have cost or how long the war would have lasted..... certainly alot more lives than the 2 bombs took.

A hard decision to make to make......but I DO BELIEVE it was the right one. It definitely saved untold numbers of American and Allied forces and also enemy soldiers lives.....
BTW, My Dad visited Hiroshima about a year or two after it was bombed...
THANK GOD THE GOOD GUYS WON!!!

tikitatas wrote:

How Quaint.....everyone wants Peace...but unfortunately there are those who do not and do not care who they kill or abuse. Take a long hard look at Japan's Unit's 731, 100, and 516...along with the Nazis and their deathcamps....among other numerous places such as Cambodia, Rwanda...or even Joseph Stalin or Idi Amin.... there are many nunerous others...

My grandfather was on a troop ship awaiting orders to the Pacific Theater when the bomb was dropped. It saved many more lives both civillian and milltary than an invasion would have taken. "War is all Hell" -William Tecumseh Sherman

"PEACE AT ANY PRICE" ....I believe not!!!....nor will I ever accept it nor would I seriously or expect anyone else to seriously believe in it either. Although there are those that do.

It was the RIGHT DECISION!!!

It may not have been the nicest thing to do to target civilians but it did what it was intended to do.
They prolly would have done the same to us if they could have.

Before I get accused of being anti-Japanese (if I haven't already), let me please say that I spent 5 1/2 years stationed there (and another year and a half in Okinawa), and a more gracious, hospitable, and congenial people can be found nowhere on this Earth. (Except in Australia and maybe Thailand).
My time in the Far East was far and away the greatest thing that ever happened to me without exception. It opened my eyes AND my mind as to the ways of the world, the ways of other people, and EDUCATED me first hand to the cultures of other people, rather than just what I'd read in books. It reassessed my values and helped me to grow up more than anyone who ever knew me thought possible up to that time.
I'll always be greatful for those years-for what they taught me, and what they made me. I'll cherish those memories forever. The beauty of the Japanese people and their culture defies description.
The only thing that didn't register with me at the time, since I was so young back then, was just how recent the events of W.W. II were, since, believe it or not, I had not been born yet.
Great country, great people, and I thank God I was able to have spent part of my life there and see what I saw and learn what I learned. Truly the experience of my lifetime.

That having been said, yes, UNFORTUNATELY, it was necassary for President Truman to make the decision he did.

They prolly would have done the same to us if they could have.

Most certainly and then some.

OceanCityGirl wrote:

They prolly would have done the same to us if they could have.

Most certainly and then some.

After seeing what they did to pregnant women, civilians , and other people, and POWs in Units 731, 100, and 516... there is no doubt of "could have done it to us"........THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT.......AND WORSE....MUCH WORSE!!!

My Daddy was in the Navy in the South Pacific and was assembled to invade Japan with many others. Instead, the bomb was dropped and they did not proceed. He was 21 at the time and had not yet met my Mama. I wouldn't be writing this had they NOT dropped the bomb as they later learned there were suicide squadrons on the shores of Japan waiting for the invasion.

Several years back, there was a group that wanted to put an apology to the Japanese on the Enola Gay (Spelling probably not even close!) exhibit in DC. It's one of the few times I've seen my Daddy visibly agitated - He made me promise that I would not let that happen in my lifetime without some serious Squawking. His point was not that we don't have compassion for the civilians of Japan who were impacted. Rather, his point is that we should not make history "politically correct" or we lose all of its lessons and our appreciation for the sacrifices of those who went before us.

My two cents on the subject....

Tailgate-Lady wrote:My Daddy was in the Navy in the South Pacific and was assembled to invade Japan with many others. Instead, the bomb was dropped and they did not proceed. He was 21 at the time and had not yet met my Mama. I wouldn't be writing this had they NOT dropped the bomb as they later learned there were suicide squadrons on the shores of Japan waiting for the invasion.

Several years back, there was a group that wanted to put an apology to the Japanese on the Enola Gay (Spelling probably not even close!) exhibit in DC. It's one of the few times I've seen my Daddy visibly agitated - He made me promise that I would not let that happen in my lifetime without some serious Squawking. His point was not that we don't have compassion for the civilians of Japan who were impacted. Rather, his point is that we should not make history "politically correct" or we lose all of its lessons and our appreciation for the sacrifices of those who went before us.

My two cents on the subject....

It sounds like MORE than two cents-more like two million.
Your father was/is a great man who obviously knew why he was there and what it takes for this country to remain great.
Believe me, you won't be the only one doing some serious squawking as long as there is air going through MY lungs.
They can take their political correct crap and shove it where the (rising) sun doesn't shine.
A big salute to your father.
And you spelled Enola Gay exactly the right way.

Tailgate-Lady wrote:My Daddy was in the Navy in the South Pacific and was assembled to invade Japan with many others. Instead, the bomb was dropped and they did not proceed. He was 21 at the time and had not yet met my Mama. I wouldn't be writing this had they NOT dropped the bomb as they later learned there were suicide squadrons on the shores of Japan waiting for the invasion.

Several years back, there was a group that wanted to put an apology to the Japanese on the Enola Gay (Spelling probably not even close!) exhibit in DC. It's one of the few times I've seen my Daddy visibly agitated - He made me promise that I would not let that happen in my lifetime without some serious Squawking. His point was not that we don't have compassion for the civilians of Japan who were impacted. Rather, his point is that we should not make history "politically correct" or we lose all of its lessons and our appreciation for the sacrifices of those who went before us.

My two cents on the subject....

SALUTE AND HOOOOOOO-RRRRAAAAH to your Dad.
Sounds like he was not only a very smart man but he was lucky enough to meet your mother and for her to give him a wonderful daughter as you!

Yes Enola Gay is the correct spelling The pilot was Col. Paul Warfield Tibbits. He named her after his mother.

I remember the hullaballo that was beinging raised about the Enola Gay by the anti nuke people and politically correct and "Americans are guilty of everything" crowd. It was nothing but madness.

The plane to drop the second Atomic Bomb was named
Bockscar. Note that Nagasaki was a the secondary target . The primary target was Kokura, Japan.
Also the bomb dropped on Nagasaki was the first of it's kind and also an unproven design.
THIS IS THE BOMB THAT ENDED THE WAR!!!

What a difference 60 years make. This is Hiroshima in 2004.

Talk about it to these brave men