snake in my house!!

Brown Eyed Girl · Post by **Brown Eyed Girl** » August 7, 2005 2:40 am

sonofabeach wrote:well, I'm taking the umbrella and hitting the sack (pardon the pun)
Nite nite ya'll!!!

OUch!!! That's gonna leave a mark!

Naughty night SOAB.

dawgfan · Post by **dawgfan** » August 7, 2005 7:51 am

Hey SOAB had a simmilar problem earlier this summer,
go to Home Depot buy a bag of lyme and spread around the perimeter of your house,in front of garage doors, entrance doors and for some strange reason the snakes will not cross through the lyme.

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » August 7, 2005 8:41 am

5 ft. red phase, Albino Corn Snake lives in with me..all the time..He has pink eyes...and I've never had him/her sexed. Need a professional to do that...I refer to him as a....him...

In a 50 gal. aquarium....eats mice, he doesn't care for rats..and I always buy live ones..

the frozen ones are actually better becasue they are guaranteed sterile, as in cleaner, no risk at all for the snake..but I refuse to boil dead, frozen, rat or mouse in the kitchen...

jonesbeach10 · Post by **jonesbeach10** » August 7, 2005 8:44 am

dawgfan wrote:Hey SOAB had a simmilar problem earlier this summer,
go to Home Depot buy a bag of lyme and spread around the perimeter of your house,in front of garage doors, entrance doors and for some strange reason the snakes will not cross through the lyme.

So I'm safe on the baseball diamond? Yesssss!!!!

Sam · Post by **Sam** » August 7, 2005 8:53 am

dawgfan wrote:Hey SOAB had a simmilar problem earlier this summer,
go to Home Depot buy a bag of lyme and spread around the perimeter of your house,in front of garage doors, entrance doors and for some strange reason the snakes will not cross through the lyme.

Good idea..... trap them all INSIDE your yard.

I don't bother killing non-venoumous snakes in my yard...though rattlers and moccasins that I have seen anywhere close end up taking a dirt nap.....and no my weapon of choice is not an umbrella.
BTW red corn snakes make great pets and are usually in "high demand" in pet stores and bring a good price.... just think how many beers you just killed....

In all reality there are very few venoumous snakes native to North America.... The coral snake and the scarlet king snale as mentioned before are easily confused but the the rhyme "yellow touches black safe for jack and yellow touches red your dead" or variations there of... The coral snake is ussually docile and easily handled....BUT it has a neurotoxin venom that makes it the most deadliest as far as venom goes.
There are various spiecies of rattlers, the copperhead,....and the moccasin.
The moccasin is normally considered the most toxic of the above......with the possible exception of the mojave rattler depending on the mojave rattler... there are 2 different types of venom......The copperhead the least venomous........

I do have a rather large black snake that I think is an "indigo" that I have seen a couple of times in my yard and he or she is most welcome to stay around as long as he or she chooses. Not only are they beautiful.... they are very useful ... they are endangered and highly protected.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » August 7, 2005 9:08 am

How interesting Sam. But I was watching a show about snakes the other day and it said the eastern rattler was the most venomous snake in the US - I guess it all depends on which authority you're listening to. And it's always good to point out that the myth of if it has a triangle head it's poisonous isn't true either. (or so that show said)

And thanks for this thread - it made me realize that I need to do some research about poisonsous snakes of the Pacific Northwest.

habourgirl · Post by **habourgirl** » August 7, 2005 9:09 am

I'm freakin petrified of snakes. I may just freak out and cry if I ever saw one.... I freakin screamed when I saw the pictures of snakes y'all posted. Freakin petrified... Here's a story that goes with this one...

I used to live in Florida and I worked for Disney. A lot of my friends knew I was not a big fan of snakes. Well, one night I was walking backstage to clock out after my shift with one of my friends. My friend goes to me "Hey, let's go clock out near costuming instead." Now I hadn't parked near costuming. My car was in the garage backstage so there was no way I was gonna walk all the way over there and then back. Well, next thing I know I see this snake and after that the next thing i remember is waking up in one of the break trailers with EMT's all around me. I had a huge gash on my eyebrow and my contacts had fallen out too. I guess according to my friend, I saw the snake and went down hard. That was the first time I had seen a live snake. Talking to my sister who is a psychologist... she says it's me defense mechanism becuase I have such a huge fear of the little suckers. I cant even watch them on tv or see pictures of them. I am absolutely petrified.

So if i was ever to find a snake in my house, I'd run away crying after fainting....

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » August 7, 2005 9:27 am

ph4ever wrote:How interesting Sam. But I was watching a show about snakes the other day and it said the eastern rattler was the most venomous snake in the US - I guess it all depends on which authority you're listening to. And it's always good to point out that the myth of if it has a triangle head it's poisonous isn't true either. (or so that show said)

And thanks for this thread - it made me realize that I need to do some research about poisonsous snakes of the Pacific Northwest.

Absolutely Connie!!! Get to know the ones that are good....A King Snake will kill a copperhead and is immune from it's venom. I learned early on, where I lived in Oklahoma, not to kill a king snake..and there are various kinds of garter snakes, too...I used to want to kill every snake I saw that had orange on it. But, to this day, I would not handle ANY snake I was not positive of it's idenity. And these snakes can vary tremendously depending on your region.

Education is the best tool to stay safe, and keep safe. Too many kill any kind of snake they see, out of fear and lack of knowledge.

I guess for herpatologists it's a big toss up, which snake is the most venemous...I suspect that Australia probably have the most venemous, world wide. They have some mean A$$ critters down there.

I have no idea what you might have in the Northwest..

Check with the local zoo, or local Dept. of Natural Resources or Dept. of Wildlife..they are very knowledgable and eager to help....

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » August 7, 2005 10:07 am

but the internet is such a wonderful tool!!!

Sam · Post by **Sam** » August 7, 2005 10:12 am

ph4ever wrote:How interesting Sam. But I was watching a show about snakes the other day and it said the eastern rattler was the most venomous snake in the US - I guess it all depends on which authority you're listening to. And it's always good to point out that the myth of if it has a triangle head it's poisonous isn't true either. (or so that show said)

And thanks for this thread - it made me realize that I need to do some research about poisonsous snakes of the Pacific Northwest.

Connie,
Thank you...I suppose there maybe a bit of confusion between venonmous and toxicity. There are various stories that people tell and what not.....like the "two- step viper" (or snake) in southeast Asia....It bites you and two steps you are dead...ALL docunented data that I have seen says the Black Mamba was the quickest acting venom....

What I was going by in my statements was the amount of venom the snake can inject (as well as type of venom) Normally the rattlesnake has enough venom to kill say 3-5 people ......the moccasin/cottonmouth has enough to kill 10 or 12......note most snakes do not inject venom in the first bite.....and what a person NORMALLY recieves is just the residual venom off the fangs.

The mojave rattler's venom has been reported/estimated to be up to TEN TIMES that of "regular snakes " native to North America.
Note that there are 2 different types of venom from the mojave rattler making it rather difficult to treat.. because one is more of a "blood type toxin" and the other is a neurotoxin....that is more closely related to cobra or the coral snake type venom...most snakes with the neurotoxin venom have very short fangs.....NOTE ALSO that the Gila Monster and the Saquaro Banded desert lizard have a similar type toxin....I have been very close in the wild with at least more than one of the speicies lizards...

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » August 7, 2005 10:19 am

ph4ever wrote:but the internet is such a wonderful tool!!!

yup..you might be able to find that on the 'net, you can find everything else...

although, seeing them..in person....

Tony5150RN · Post by **Tony5150RN** » August 7, 2005 10:20 am

It didn't look like this did it?

phjrsaunt · Post by **phjrsaunt** » August 7, 2005 10:21 am

Let's just say that someone else is going to have to moderate this thread, because I DO NOT DO SNAKES!

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » August 7, 2005 10:24 am

Tony5150RN wrote:It didn't look like this did it?

Dusty Pygmy Rattler..there was nest of them close to where I used to live...but not the Dusty....nasty snake.. I hear a bad disposition, too.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » August 7, 2005 10:50 am

phjrsaunt wrote:Let's just say that someone else is going to have to moderate this thread, because I DO NOT DO SNAKES!

word of warning then, if you ever go to BB's house DO NOT GO INTO THE BASEMENT!!!

Tony5150RN · Post by **Tony5150RN** » August 7, 2005 10:59 am

ph4ever wrote:
phjrsaunt wrote:Let's just say that someone else is going to have to moderate this thread, because I DO NOT DO SNAKES!

word of warning then, if you ever go to BB's house DO NOT GO INTO THE BASEMENT!!!

I didn't think anyone down here had a basement???

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » August 7, 2005 11:07 am

Tony5150RN wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
phjrsaunt wrote:Let's just say that someone else is going to have to moderate this thread, because I DO NOT DO SNAKES!

word of warning then, if you ever go to BB's house DO NOT GO INTO THE BASEMENT!!!
I didn't think anyone down here had a basement???

down where?? BB is in Colorado. I'm confused

Tony5150RN · Post by **Tony5150RN** » August 7, 2005 11:25 am

ph4ever wrote:
Tony5150RN wrote:
ph4ever wrote:
phjrsaunt wrote:Let's just say that someone else is going to have to moderate this thread, because I DO NOT DO SNAKES!

word of warning then, if you ever go to BB's house DO NOT GO INTO THE BASEMENT!!!
I didn't think anyone down here had a basement???

down where?? BB is in Colorado. I'm confused

My bad, I thought that you were talking about sonofabeach.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » August 7, 2005 11:35 am

ph4ever wrote:How interesting Sam. But I was watching a show about snakes the other day and it said the eastern rattler was the most venomous snake in the US - I guess it all depends on which authority you're listening to. And it's always good to point out that the myth of if it has a triangle head it's poisonous isn't true either. (or so that show said)

And thanks for this thread - it made me realize that I need to do some research about poisonsous snakes of the Pacific Northwest.

Connie the only ones I can thjink of is Rattlers timber and diamondback

maybe there is a local like a pymgy or something but they are ALL

Rattlers as far as I know..

Did I ever tell you I interviewed to work at a Snake ranch???

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » August 7, 2005 11:38 am

No copperheads? shouldn't there be some kind of water snakes up there, too?

I keep hearing they are docile...but anyone I've ever met that came in contact with one, says they wait until you are in striking distance and nail you...unlike most rattlers that will warn you...

even my corn snake will rattle his tail to scare you...it rattles against the paper on the bottom of his cage...