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Posted: August 25, 2005 3:45 pm
by Jahfin
Tiki Bar wrote:
Jahfin wrote:With no offense intended towards Lee, I know he's a recording artist but I don't understand why he's considered the only authority on such subject matters here or why such a decision can't be reached without his input.
With no offense to Jahfin, and only speaking for myself... because his professional experience has earned him the distinction of our resident expert on the music industry.
Perhaps but sometimes I'm given the impression that he's the only one capable of answering certain questions regarding the industry and without his word it just isn't fact (which isn't the case at all). Nor does that make me the leading the authority on such subjects but I was perfectly capable (and I'm sure others are as well) of answering the above question without having to hear from Lee.

Posted: August 25, 2005 3:46 pm
by NYCPORT
LIPH wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:
Jahfin wrote:With no offense intended towards Lee, I know he's a recording artist but I don't understand why he's considered the only authority on such subject matters here or why such a decision can't be reached without his input.
With no offense to Jahfin, and only speaking for myself... because his professional experience has earned him the distinction of our resident expert on the music industry.
And saying "Lee would know more about it ..." doesn't mean a decision can't be reached without his input. It just means "Lee would know more about it."
...And he sometimes has Jimmy's ear. :roll:

His panties don't seem to get in a bunch quite as ofter as others around here either.

Posted: August 25, 2005 3:48 pm
by Tiki Bar
NYCPORT wrote:
LIPH wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:
Jahfin wrote:With no offense intended towards Lee, I know he's a recording artist but I don't understand why he's considered the only authority on such subject matters here or why such a decision can't be reached without his input.
With no offense to Jahfin, and only speaking for myself... because his professional experience has earned him the distinction of our resident expert on the music industry.
And saying "Lee would know more about it ..." doesn't mean a decision can't be reached without his input. It just means "Lee would know more about it."
...And he sometimes has Jimmy's ear. :roll:
Is that like swimmer's ear? My daughter had that over the weekend. :wink: :D

Posted: August 25, 2005 3:57 pm
by Jahfin
NYCPORT wrote:
LIPH wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:
Jahfin wrote:With no offense intended towards Lee, I know he's a recording artist but I don't understand why he's considered the only authority on such subject matters here or why such a decision can't be reached without his input.
With no offense to Jahfin, and only speaking for myself... because his professional experience has earned him the distinction of our resident expert on the music industry.
And saying "Lee would know more about it ..." doesn't mean a decision can't be reached without his input. It just means "Lee would know more about it."
...And he sometimes has Jimmy's ear. :roll:

His panties don't seem to get in a bunch quite as ofter as others around here either.
Doesn't really matter if he has "Jimmy's ear", the question could be answered without consulting Buffett. If it appeared that I "got my panties in a bunch" that was not at all the case, I'm just saying Lee isn't the be all and end all authority on these things as he's often made out to be. You don't have to be in the business to answer a lot of the questions people defer to him.

Posted: August 25, 2005 4:05 pm
by blackjack
Somebody needs a hug.

Repeat after me... while looking in a mirror

I'm good enough,

I'm smart enough,

and dog-gonnit,

People like me. :pirate: :lol:

Posted: August 25, 2005 4:22 pm
by pooj
AlbatrossFlyer wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
AlbatrossFlyer wrote:taping and cameras are banned.
...but does that stop concert goers from snapping photos?
no, but i've seen cameras confiscated at a number of different venues. if you're up front and use a flash, charleston will separate you from your camera.
Same thing happened to me at Alpine. My main intent was to capture photos of my friends in the crowd. I thought it was pretty lame to take my crappy camera that wouldn't have been able to take any good photos of the stage anyway....they even took the chemical lightstick I had around my neck! :(

Posted: August 25, 2005 4:24 pm
by Parrot Monkey
I agree with Jahfin, I respect Lee for the same reasons he mentioned, but I also have a hard time seeing why everyone seems so dependent on his knowledge. Sure, he is in the industry and brings lots of information to the table, very true. But, other people can be also, as well as those who do their homework and research on the topic their about to post on.

Please folks, just because someone has first hand experience does NOT make them the only one that knows about the topic at hand. In this case, someone could just ring up a venue or two who is going to host a Buffett concert or has in the recent past and simply ask “What is Mr. Buffett’s policy on bringing recording devices into the concert?” The receptionist will respond or put someone on the line that does, and then from there the caller could make a list, and then post here. Then they would know what their talking about, because that’s all the info needed to post here.

Lee doesn’t get “his panties in a bunch” because he knows how to debate in the right way (information is actually contained in his opposing posts), unlike others who just come into the threads to tease, harass, intimidate, “defuse” (“I like cheese” etc) or follow up with posts like “The voice of knowledge speaks”, when that person who posted that has no way of confirming if Lee was right or wrong.

Posted: August 25, 2005 4:27 pm
by buffettbride
Parrot Monkey wrote:Lee doesn’t get “his panties in a bunch” because he knows how to debate in the right way (information is actually contained in his opposing posts), unlike others who just come into the threads to tease, harass, intimidate, “defuse” (“I like cheese” etc) or follow up with posts like “The voice of knowledge speaks”, when that person who posted that has no way of confirming if Lee was right or wrong.
What do my cheese and panties have to do with any of this???? :o :o :o :o :o Have you seen my panties or cheese diffusing ANYTHING you've had to do with lately?

I mean, drop it already, or go read some liner notes or something. :roll: :roll: I like ya dude, but get over it. I've made a sincere effort to keep my bunched panties and cheese where they are welcome.

Posted: August 25, 2005 4:32 pm
by LIPH
Parrot Monkey wrote:Please folks, just because someone has first hand experience does NOT make them the only one that knows about the topic at hand.
"Lee would know better" doesn't mean he's the only one who can answer a question. It means, in the opinion of the person who made that comment that "Lee would know better [than I do]."

Posted: August 25, 2005 5:04 pm
by Tiki Bar
Jahfin wrote:...I'm just saying Lee isn't the be all and end all authority on these things as he's often made out to be.
If I ever appear to make him out as that, it's unintentional... I just respect his opinion is all.

Posted: August 25, 2005 5:09 pm
by ToplessRideFL
Ok... who is Lee? And just for those of us who dont know... what does he do in the "industry"?

Posted: August 25, 2005 5:10 pm
by buffettbride
ToplessRideFL wrote:Ok... who is Lee?
Lee is a hippy.

Posted: August 25, 2005 5:10 pm
by Tiki Bar
Parrot Monkey wrote:Please folks, just because someone has first hand experience does NOT make them the only one that knows about the topic at hand. In this case, someone could just ring up a venue or two who is going to host a Buffett concert or has in the recent past and simply ask ?What is Mr. Buffett?s policy on bringing recording devices into the concert?? The receptionist will respond or put someone on the line that does, and then from there the caller could make a list, and then post here. Then they would know what their talking about, because that?s all the info needed to post here.
For the record, many of us answered the question without Lee's input.

When AF stated "Lee would know more about it, but would there be an issue of royalty payments for any cover songs JB played if taping was allowed?" was in response to the "argument" of why Jimmy Buffett should allow taping. And to me, it simply meant AF was throwing a guess out there as to why maybe he doesn't, but "Lee would know more about it", which is just a factual statement.

Sorry... why is this even being debated?

Posted: August 25, 2005 5:11 pm
by buffettbride
Tiki Bar wrote: Sorry... why is this even being debated?
Can I answer that?? :lol: :wink:



<----------slowly backing away from this thread

Posted: August 25, 2005 5:14 pm
by ToplessRideFL
buffettbride wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote:Ok... who is Lee?
Lee is a hippy.
And just for those of us who dont know... what does he do in the "industry"?

Posted: August 25, 2005 5:15 pm
by Tiki Bar
ToplessRideFL wrote:Ok... who is Lee? And just for those of us who dont know... what does he do in the "industry"?
That's a loaded question!

www.leetotten.com

Also known as Key Lime Lee... here and at www.keylimecafe.com

And he works within "the Buffett camp" on websites and such...

Posted: August 25, 2005 5:16 pm
by ToplessRideFL
Tiki Bar wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote:Ok... who is Lee? And just for those of us who dont know... what does he do in the "industry"?
That's a loaded question!

www.leetotten.com

Also known as Key Lime Lee... here and at www.keylimecafe.com

And he works within "the Buffett camp" on websites and such...
Thats who I thought it was....but didnt want to guess! :wink:

Posted: August 25, 2005 9:16 pm
by AlbatrossFlyer
Tiki Bar wrote:
Parrot Monkey wrote:Please folks, just because someone has first hand experience does NOT make them the only one that knows about the topic at hand. In this case, someone could just ring up a venue or two who is going to host a Buffett concert or has in the recent past and simply ask ?What is Mr. Buffett?s policy on bringing recording devices into the concert?? The receptionist will respond or put someone on the line that does, and then from there the caller could make a list, and then post here. Then they would know what their talking about, because that?s all the info needed to post here.
For the record, many of us answered the question without Lee's input.

When AF stated "Lee would know more about it, but would there be an issue of royalty payments for any cover songs JB played if taping was allowed?" was in response to the "argument" of why Jimmy Buffett should allow taping. And to me, it simply meant AF was throwing a guess out there as to why maybe he doesn't, but "Lee would know more about it", which is just a factual statement.

Sorry... why is this even being debated?
thank you.....

Posted: August 25, 2005 9:20 pm
by AlbatrossFlyer
Tiki Bar wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote:Ok... who is Lee? And just for those of us who dont know... what does he do in the "industry"?
That's a loaded question!

www.leetotten.com

Also known as Key Lime Lee... here and at www.keylimecafe.com

And he works within "the Buffett camp" on websites and such...
and he's a professional musician that has/had a recording industry contract.

(he also gets to vote for the grammy awards)

Posted: August 25, 2005 9:50 pm
by fxmulder

Hey fxmulder: Do you have a full copy of Sunday's Cincy show?? We've been looking for one since RM crashed at halftime. It's got the Jimmy shoutout to the troops in Baghdad and we want to send it over for them. Can you help out??
I wish I did! Sounds like I missed a good show. I was actually caught on I-95 heading back home from some down time at Hilton Head Island. Turns out a truck with a horse trailor crashed causing 95 to be closed for a rather extended period of time. That combined with construction conspired to keep me from getting home in time to tape the show. When I missed the first several songs, I just figured "bag it". I do have all the other shows from Mansfield onward....