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ParrotheadGator wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:

Margarita Matt wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:MM - you've got 34 posts - 28 of which you do nothing but spew your hate-filled bile.
You're a f*cking joke.

SHut your pie hole.

It'd be nice if you'd express your thoughts in a more respectful manner. Thank you.

"You're a f*cking joke" isn't exactly a respectful manner.

Did I say that it was?

buffettbride wrote:It's the line of thinking that you don't have to help people because they are not good enough for you that we should be worried about.

Its not that they "are not good enough for you". If you want my help, help yourself FIRST. Prove to me that you can do it. You can't solve a problem by throwing money at it. All you end up with is a really expensive problem.

Margarita Matt wrote:

buffettbride wrote:It's the line of thinking that you don't have to help people because they are not good enough for you that we should be worried about.

Its not that they "are not good enough for you". If you want my help, help yourself FIRST. Prove to me that you can do it. You can't solve a problem by throwing money at it. All you end up with is a really expensive problem.

I am guessing you worked really, really hard at being this dim and simplistic.

Margarita Matt wrote:

sy wrote:
Um, actually, I do believe that some, if not a lot of us actually are, and will be doing a lot of these things. I made two very sizeable donations yesterday because I can afford to. Guess we won't hope for the same from you.

Take them into your home. Lend them your car. Treat them like a true neighbor.

I would and given the chance, I probably will.

As I asked, if everything were suddenly gone from you tomorrow, would you want people sitting around belittling your situation? Saying you brought it upon yourself and turning their back on you?

Or do you think you are quite beyond that happening? Because people do not have a lot of money does not necessarily make them poor. They make have a far richer and happier life than anyone else who's living large. This has nothing to do with living within or beyond their means. Some of them stayed because they have no other family, they were sick, physically unable, and so on. You are lumping them in with the select few you are describing.

SMLCHNG wrote:Exactly how does their life impact you?

My wages are robbed from me every month. The federal government steals them from me. A portion of these stolen funds go to people who are habitual bad decision makers. Their bad decisions take money out of my pocket. I have to sacrifice MORE and MORE of what I earn because the government thinks their families are worth more than my family despite the fact that their families don't even pay income taxes (the working poor don't pay taxes (Most get EIC).

SMLCHNG wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:

Margarita Matt wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:MM - you've got 34 posts - 28 of which you do nothing but spew your hate-filled bile.
You're a f*cking joke.

SHut your pie hole.

It'd be nice if you'd express your thoughts in a more respectful manner. Thank you.

"You're a f*cking joke" isn't exactly a respectful manner.

Did I say that it was?

no, but the majority of the folks here only jump down the throats of those that are either new or in strong disagreement with.

In this case and in many others, one of your beloved own can get as nasty as he wants to and nobody says a thing. When somebody like Matt responds, you'll be all over him for it.

Margarita Matt wrote:

sy wrote: Not all the people down there are poor. There are those who could not leave because they were hospitalized, sick, or physically unable to leave.

Even discounting that, people fall on hard times, and not everyone goes on welfare when they do. There are also those who own stores or have jobs where they make an honest living, they just don't make much.

There was a run where I was dirt poor where I garnered the same reaction from people as you're giving. It goes both ways, because I've also seen some of those people suddenly out of a job and out of a house they thought was so secure. Not everyone is just out to mooch the system.


If you suddenly fell on hard times and were in the situation now, would you want people sitting around belittling your situation?

Live below your means. Not at or above it. Most of america is one missed paycheck away from bankruptcy. That is sad. Again though, NOT MY FAULT THEY CANNOT CONTROL THEIR SPENDING. The poorest person in teh USA makes 100times what the "middle class" does in other countries.

My goodness, aren't you mother f*ckin' brilliant!?!? I wish we all had your perfect 20/20 hindsight vision. You're clearly a racist bigot with an elitist, uncompassionate, hate-filled attitude. You're a bigger waste than the people you are criticizing who are suffering miserably in the aftermath of this hurricane. Karma's a b**** and you keep running your mouth the way you are and it's gonna bite you in the a$$... and then I invite you to come back here and tell us all how disfortunate you are... we'll laugh. But because for the most part, we are a caring and compassionate group around here, we'd actually probably help you if we could... just because we are decent people. Best of luck to you, loser...

ParrotheadGator wrote:no, but the majority of the folks here only jump down the throats of those that are either new or in strong disagreement with.

In this case and in many others, one of your beloved own can get as nasty as he wants to and nobody says a thing. When somebody like Matt responds, you'll be all over him for it.

You have no idea what is said in PM's nor do you see every single post I make around here.

Margarita Matt wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:Exactly how does their life impact you?

My wages are robbed from me every month. The federal government steals them from me. A portion of these stolen funds go to people who are habitual bad decision makers. Their bad decisions take money out of my pocket. I have to sacrifice MORE and MORE of what I earn because the government thinks their families are worth more than my family despite the fact that their families don't even pay income taxes (the working poor don't pay taxes (Most get EIC).

Then perhaps you can live in another country if you don't like how things are being done here.

Margarita Matt wrote:[When someone cannot take responsibility for their poor decisions, someone must. I end up having my familys quality of life reduced due to other's poor decisions. That gives me a say in what they should and should not be doing.

You do? How? Really, how exactly does someone who doesn't make as near as much as you seem to make affect your lifestyle?

I don't believe it's ever affected mine.

SMLCHNG wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:no, but the majority of the folks here only jump down the throats of those that are either new or in strong disagreement with.

In this case and in many others, one of your beloved own can get as nasty as he wants to and nobody says a thing. When somebody like Matt responds, you'll be all over him for it.

You have no idea what is said in PM's nor do you see every single post I make around here.

No, but what you say in PM's is irrelevant...perception is everything. But you no doubt have your little clicks around here, which has been discussed to death in the past year.

Margarita Matt wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:Exactly how does their life impact you?

My wages are robbed from me every month. The federal government steals them from me. A portion of these stolen funds go to people who are habitual bad decision makers. Their bad decisions take money out of my pocket. I have to sacrifice MORE and MORE of what I earn because the government thinks their families are worth more than my family despite the fact that their families don't even pay income taxes (the working poor don't pay taxes (Most get EIC).

Well damn. Well then, because I don't have kids, I don't want to pay school taxes. And I'm not old, so I don't want to pay social security.

sy wrote:As I asked, if everything were suddenly gone from you tomorrow, would you want people sitting around belittling your situation?

No, I'd already be working on starting over. Not looking to the government for what to do. If you are elderly, yeah, that sucks, because you probably aren't physically capable of doing much. I see a hell of alot of well fed 18-40yr old males wandering around though not doing anything productive. That's what seperates me from them. I don't blame my situation on others. I s*** it up and get to work on improving my life. If I can't feed a baby, I sure as heck am not going to bring one, or 4 or 5 into the world. These people have little to no respect for themselves (weight is indicative of that), and zero personal responsibility. Sack up, quit bitching, and do something.

ParrotheadGator wrote:No, but what you say in PM's is irrelevant...perception is everything. But you no doubt have your little clicks around here, which has been discussed to death in the past year.

Only irrelevant in your eyes.

And if you think the cliques have been discussed to death, why bring them up?

iuparrothead wrote: My goodness, aren't you mother f*ckin' brilliant!?!? I wish we all had your perfect 20/20 hindsight vision. You're clearly a racist bigot with an elitist, uncompassionate, hate-filled attitude. You're a bigger waste than the people you are criticizing who are suffering miserably in the aftermath of this hurricane. Karma's a b**** and you keep running your mouth the way you are and it's gonna bite you in the a$$... and then I invite you to come back here and tell us all how disfortunate you are... we'll laugh. But because for the most part, we are a caring and compassionate group around here, we'd actually probably help you if we could... just because we are decent people. Best of luck to you, loser...

You'll be destitute long before I ever will.

Margarita Matt wrote: No, I'd already be working on starting over. Not looking to the government for what to do. If you are elderly, yeah, that sucks, because you probably aren't physically capable of doing much. I see a hell of alot of well fed 18-40yr old males wandering around though not doing anything productive. That's what seperates me from them. I don't blame my situation on others. I s*** it up and get to work on improving my life. If I can't feed a baby, I sure as heck am not going to bring one, or 4 or 5 into the world. These people have little to no respect for themselves (weight is indicative of that), and zero personal responsibility. Sack up, quit bitching, and do something.

Well, seeing as there isn't any place for them to go and apply for a job, no place for them to spruce up for an interview, no electricity for them to turn on a light to fill out a job application, etc. I'm not so sure what you'd like them to do. If you were standing down there, in the midst of the rubble of your house and everything that was yours, how would you go about improving your life if you couldn't have gotten out of there?

SMLCHNG wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:No, but what you say in PM's is irrelevant...perception is everything. But you no doubt have your little clicks around here, which has been discussed to death in the past year.

Only irrelevant in your eyes.

And if you think the cliques have been discussed to death, why bring them up?

If it's irrelevent, tell me this. What do you get out of scolding or belittling the new folks or ones you disagree with in public, while the others you just PM? Probably so you can use cop outs like "you have no idea what is said in PM".

sy wrote: Well damn. Well then, because I don't have kids, I don't want to pay school taxes.

ALL over this country, more and more of the costs of public schools are being passed on to the actual PEOPLE THAT USE THEM. I'm all for that. I have to pay for other's children, and then pay $14K/yr per child for a good school on top of that? Where is the justice in that? Now, I will say that this tax-payer-funded daycare is better than them running around causing mischief, so it is indeed a worthwhile cause. They may learn something, most won't, but aleast they won't be vandalizing my house.

And I'm not old, so I don't want to pay social security.

SS was flawed from day 1, and intended to be a TEMPORARY measure. I'd say screw any payback of SS to me, or any future benefits of it if they'd just stop stealing it from my paycheck every month. The government doesn't do much well, and they can't even beat inflation with their method of forced "saving" for my retirement. What makes you think I trust them?

Margarita Matt wrote: You'll be destitute long before I ever will.

How do you know that? Really? You have no idea how much any of us are worth or not worth, what we do with our money, or how we live our lives.
You must be on the Forbes most wealthy lists to be so sure of your future.

ParrotheadGator wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:

ParrotheadGator wrote:No, but what you say in PM's is irrelevant...perception is everything. But you no doubt have your little clicks around here, which has been discussed to death in the past year.

Only irrelevant in your eyes.

And if you think the cliques have been discussed to death, why bring them up?

If it's irrelevent, tell me this. What do you get out of scolding or belittling the new folks or ones you disagree with in public, while the others you just PM? Probably so you can use cop outs like "you have no idea what is said in PM".

Not that I owe you any kind of explanation, nor do I get 'anything out of it' ... but it depends if I'm there during the actual posting. I just happen to be home today, and saw the post. It also depends on the words spoken. If I had gotten home today and read through this crap, then I, or one of the other moderators, would have probably sent a PM.





I'm outta this nonsense..