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RinglingRingling wrote:
Hush... introducing more than "Black" and "white" into his thought processes is gonna cause him to vapour-lock and he'll be completely useless.

The shade of gray is a very limited shade. You think its a BROAD shade from what you've indicated.

sy wrote:Do you put them in the same boat as everyone else because they chose to stay perform their jobs to the best of their ability?

When I see LEOs LOOTING, NOT FOOD, BUT CONSUMER ITEMS, I think they should be floating face down in that much. Protect and serve......their own interests maybe.

Margarita Matt wrote:Part of that whole being smart thing.

Ya, keep telling yourself that, Sherlock.

Tiki Bar wrote:Ya, keep telling yourself that, Sherlock.

Go live below sea level in an area constantly under hurricane risk, and tell me you have an ounce of intelligence.

Margarita Matt wrote:

Tiki Bar wrote:Ya, keep telling yourself that, Sherlock.

Go live below sea level in an area constantly under hurricane risk, and tell me you have an ounce of intelligence.

Upon initial forecast, there were 'safe' areas that were slated to get hit very, very hard with the hurricane as it travelled inland. I would not view too many places safe based on the last few years of weather.

Tiki --
Don't you know every 6 year old in New Orleans is smart enough, and rich enough, to be able to move to Happy Land?

Margarita Matt wrote:[
A bigger problem with public schools is if its free, few parents take an active interest in their child's schooling. That's a generalization, but a HIGHLY accurate one.

not even close to accurate. But... hey, don't let facts get in the way of your generalizations, they haven't before...

Margarita Matt wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:
Hush... introducing more than "Black" and "white" into his thought processes is gonna cause him to vapour-lock and he'll be completely useless.

The shade of gray is a very limited shade. You think its a BROAD shade from what you've indicated.

actually, I was talking about the whole span of colour between black (absence of all colour), and white (presence of all colour). However, if you want to take time to find someone with access to a colour chart (say, your local paint store), see how many shades of grey there really are.

sy wrote:Upon initial forecast, there were 'safe' areas that were slated to get hit very, very hard with the hurricane as it travelled inland. I would not view too many places safe based on the last few years of weather.

Lets see, tropical storms hit the coastal areas, and can travel inland with some ferocity. Lets make my primary and sole residence in one of these areas. Better yet, let me live where the neighboring lake and the sea are both higher than where I decided to live. Let me STAY THERE to "ride it out" because hurricanes aren't bad. They can be ridden out at Cat5 with no problems.



Oh crap, my house is under water.

RinglingRingling wrote:
actually, I was talking about the whole span of colour between black (absence of all colour), and white (presence of all colour). However, if you want to take time to find someone with access to a colour chart (say, your local paint store), see how many shades of grey there really are.

Its WRONG to live in a flood plane or below sea level and then expect me to pay to bail you out. It is also WRONG to live on a FAULT line and me to pay to bail you out. Its wrong to live in a DRY TINDER AREA with trees within just a few scant feet of your house, and expect me to bail you out when a forest fire happens. Its wrong to live on or near a volcano that will destory your house and me to bail you out.


Natural disasters are predictable in the fact that they will happen. Volcanos erupt. Hurricanes destroy. Fault lines move. Tornados destroy. Forest fires happen. Floods occur.

Live in one of those areas, take the RESPONSIBILITY on your own to live there. Its your choice. You make a decision, you deal with teh consequences of that decision.

Matt... why do you enjoy this so much?

annoyed... wrote:Matt... why do you enjoy this so much?

I appreciate a good debate. I am also upset that there were people that when ordered to vacate, decided to stay. I hate thieves. I hate people who don't take responsibility for their situations. Its always somebody else's fault but their own.

Here's an idea - everyone who lives in a coastal area anywhere in the US that's prone to hurricanes, move to where MM lives. Those of us in northern climes, where we sometimes experience blizzards, move to where MM lives. Anyone in the midwestern tornado belt, move to where MM lives. Residents of western states who experience droughts and wildfires, move to where MM lives. Yeah, that'll work. Why didn't I think of that sooner?

And if paying taxes = the government stealing your money, if you should be unfortunate enough to have a fire in your house I'm assuming you'll refuse to let the fire department put it out. After all, unless they're volunteers the department is funded by tax dollars, a/k/a stolen money. You'll also refuse all police protection because the PD is funded by tax dollars, a/k/a stolen money. And if you have children you'll never let them use any park facilities in your community because once again we have that old tax dollars a/k/a stolen money problem.

This has been a public service announcement, we now return to regular programming.

LIPH wrote: And if paying taxes = the government stealing your money, if you should be unfortunate enough to have a fire in your house I'm assuming you'll refuse to let the fire department put it out. After all, unless they're volunteers the department is funded by tax dollars, a/k/a stolen money.

Larry, just a quick correction from the land of the volunteer fire company. Volunteer fire companies do recieve a fair amount of federal/state/local tax money for operating costs, equipment, etc. It's not nearly enough to keep them in the black, though.

LI... why do you enjoy this so much?

LIPH wrote:You'll also refuse all police protection because the PD is funded by tax dollars, a/k/a stolen money.

The government exists to protect me from FOREIGN and DOMESTIC aggressors. The police fall under that. Unfortunately, the police are all but mere revenue collectors for the municipality. I'll call them after I have dispatched the aggressors. They can do the paperwork and send a cleanup crew.

We have a lack of intelligence for living somewhere below sea level...well as a commercial fisherman, it would be rather hard to make a living else where. I agree with you matt when you say we should take responsibilty for our own actions. But sometimes s*** happens and people need help. I am in no way liberal (well maybe on my drug policy and gay marriage) but other than that I am pretty far right. Have you ever been to La? You say you bet people have tv and the likes. Again, have you ever been there? Have you seen the level of poverty some of them live in? No, its not your responsibilty to help them, but as a decent human being, when people are in trouble, no matter what the reason, a decent human being would try to help. Of course, F the people who are killing and raping...shoot them and turn em over and shoot em again. But how can you say bad things about people who are looting food and water. Its not only poor people who have nothing. once your 2 million dollar house has been washed away in the storm serge and since the bank is closed even if you were warren buffett you would still have no access to your money. There was more but now I have to go back and read through it again to remember...

Margarita Matt wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:
actually, I was talking about the whole span of colour between black (absence of all colour), and white (presence of all colour). However, if you want to take time to find someone with access to a colour chart (say, your local paint store), see how many shades of grey there really are.

Its WRONG to live in a flood plane or below sea level and then expect me to pay to bail you out. It is also WRONG to live on a FAULT line and me to pay to bail you out. Its wrong to live in a DRY TINDER AREA with trees within just a few scant feet of your house, and expect me to bail you out when a forest fire happens. Its wrong to live on or near a volcano that will destory your house and me to bail you out.

Natural disasters are predictable in the fact that they will happen. Volcanos erupt. Hurricanes destroy. Fault lines move. Tornados destroy. Forest fires happen. Floods occur.

Live in one of those areas, take the RESPONSIBILITY on your own to live there. Its your choice. You make a decision, you deal with teh consequences of that decision.

I avoid flooded planes too; however, there are such things as flood plains, which vary as to whether the flooding is an annual, decadal, centennial, or millenial thing.

I agree that living with timber right up to the house is stupid, for a lot of reasons.

as for Livin' on the Fault Line, "Little Darlin' (I Need You)" is about the only good single on it.

As for building on a volcano, how many people really set out to do that? Having the volcano come to you is a lot more likely...

as for "Natural disasters are predictable in the fact that they will happen. ", you are right. The tricky part is knowing when, and how badly they will damage the area. Figure that one out, and you could move out of your supposedly-safe and secure, disaster-proof little hovel.

Unfortunately, not everyone has your ability to live in a "disaster-proof" area.

longlinergirl wrote:I am in no way liberal (well maybe on my drug policy and gay marriage) but other than that I am pretty far right.

I'm all for drug use. If you need treatment due to an addiction though, or commit crimes to get your drugs, or cause harm to others through your use of drugs, you should be erradicated.

On the gay marriage thing. I believe that if you want a civil union, go for it. Wipe marriage from the US tax codes, and I can't see anybody that would have a problem with a "civil union". It won't be a MARRIAGE, but big deal.

Have you ever been to La? You say you bet people have tv and the likes. Again, have you ever been there?

Not in the past 15 years. I tried to stay out of the bad areas when I was there, just like I try to do when I visit any area. Had a hurricane struck when I was there, I would have been teh HELL OUT OF THERE LONG BEFORE IT EVER MADE LANDFALL.

RinglingRingling wrote:
As for building on a volcano, how many people really set out to do that? Having the volcano come to you is a lot more likely...

Hawaii.