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If everybody doen't like the way this situation was handled, contact your local congressmen and tell them to change these protocols for disaster situatuions, and that the feds should just bust in and push the local and state governments out of the way with little or nothing to say about the situation. That is essentially what everyone here is looking for to happen.
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ph4ever wrote:The mayor lost his home - he rode out the storm and has been staying in a downtown hotel with no electricity, water etc just like the citizens of his city that stayed and where facing this catastrophic event.

The LA Gov. was in Baton Rouge. I mean wouldn't you expect the govenor of your state to be in the State Capitol??

And Bush was at his comfy ranch in Crawford Texas. Yea he did cut his vacation sort - by one day- BIG FREAKING DEAL. It wasn't until he started getting severe critizism did he do anything to step up the pace of FEMA.

You can defend Bush until the cows come home however that dosn't change the fact that he is Commander in Chief, the inefective rescue of US Citizens on US soil was a sloppy job and as Commander in chief this falls all on his shoulders - like it or not!!


Okies Where you? Perhaps in your comfy abode? It is ok for you to be comfy while slamming someone else? DO you really expect the POTUS to be at ground zero? :roll:

Why would or should I or anyone expect the Governor to be at the state capitol ?They could be anywhere just as you or anyone else can be.
You can slam anyone you want to but at least try to be accurate and informed before you do.
So what if the Mayor lost his home? Do did tens or hundreds of thousands or maybe more lost their homes and much more...

MORE IMPORTANTLY WHY DIDN'T THE MAYOR DO HIS JOB PROPERLY?
WHY DIDN'T THE GOVERNOR DO HER JOB PROPERLY????
Let me know when you actually care enough about that, instead of whining about President Bush and the various federal agencies!
IF the Governor and Mayor had acted appropriately....the federal teams could have responded faster. Care to argue that point?

If your going to be accusatory...PLEASE accuse the right people...but so far you have not...not that I really expect that you want to....I mean after all you have a problem with people that were told to keep at least a 3 day supply of food and water on hand, As anyone that lives in an area subject to hurricanes knows. AFTER BEING REPEATEDLY TOLD TO SO, going without and want to blame President Bush and the Federal Goverment.
But that is your problem and those people suffered because they chose to not follow the guidelines and don't try to bs me because they were poor and black or that President Bush is a racist.

What part of THE GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR KNEW IN ADVANCE AND DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.... AND THE PEOPLE DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION !!! Do you fail to understand???
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Lightning Bolt wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote: On the M'ville board, one of the regulars said that after hearing evacuees were going to be housed at
her apartment complex "in a 97% white neighbourhood", her first thought was, "I pay good money for my apartment here, why should we take in refugees?".
12vmanRick wrote: The race issues we have in this country are perpetuated and caused by THESE type of imbeciles!!!
Just double-checking.... which type of imbecile were YOU speaking of?
Read the thread heading.. LOL

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Even President Clinton stated today that now is not the time for accusations and fault finding. Of course, keeping with the normal Clinton contradictions, it was around the same time that Hilary was calling for a Katrina Investigative Committee.

So my final word on this is "An Eagle Can't Fly Without A Right Wing and A Left Wing." :wink: Oh, and that I'll continue to stand behind FEMA, Michael Brown, and The Commander In Chief
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Sam wrote:Okies Where you? Perhaps in your comfy abode? It is ok for you to be comfy while slamming someone else? DO you really expect the POTUS to be at ground zero? :roll:

...What part of THE GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR KNEW IN ADVANCE AND DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.... AND THE PEOPLE DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION !!! Do you fail to understand???
The President was in my town sleeping at the comfy Hotel del Coronado that night.

Sam, what you are saying, in essence, is that these citizens who stayed behind , despite mandatory calls for evacuation,
DESERVED their fate, regardless if they survived the event, and should not expect Uncle Sam to bail them out.

Would you agree with this?
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These people, black, white, green, red.. etc

MADE CHOICES

Choice to live in New Orleans
Choice to stay when 5 years ago it was published that the levies would withstand only a CAT3 hurricane and they stayed
Choice to stay during a mandatory evacuation order
Choices are a way of life, wherever YOU are right now isn't the goverments fault, their problem or anyone elses it's YOURS

and if Kanye is SOOOO concerned why doesn't he get some of HIS money together and go rescue HIS people. After all, they are the ones that bought his crap music in the first place.
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12vmanRick wrote:and if Kanye is SOOOO concerned why doesn't he get some of HIS money together and go rescue HIS people. After all, they are the ones that bought his crap music in the first place.
ROTFLMAO!!!
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Brown Eyed Girl wrote:
Sam wrote:
Brown Eyed Girl wrote:
Tony5150RN wrote:The entire National Disaster Medical System was put on full alert Friday before the storm. That activation includes every DMAT, VMAT, DMORT, and Search and Rescue team, in the United States. This was an unprecedented activation and was done 4 days before the event. The ball was rolling and people were ready.
Then why did it take so long to get help to where it was needed? Our Swift Water Rescue Teams didn't even leave Cali til Wed morning I believe, maybe even after that.. :-?
Why weren't all these people moved in closer to the disaster area so they could get their faster when it was deemed safe to travel?

Ironically, Noah's Wish, a non profit disaster pet rescue and shelter organization was outside the disaster area on Aug 30th, and in Slidell LA rescuing animals on the 31st. Seems the gov't could learn a thing or two from this volunteer organization.
WHICH goverment are you talking about??? The federal or the state?
The state has to ASK the federal goverment for the aid if they wait a week or whatever to ask and we all see it on tv ...oh well the state should have asked sooner...meanwhile people suffer and some die....Blame the Governor and the Mayor... If President Bush sent troops down there without being asked you would be hearing hell about it raised before the planes landed.
Sam, the point I think you are missing is that having to ASK for help in this age of live feeds direct from disaster areas is more than archaic. I think this is the beef that most folks have. One would think that the local and state officials *might* have a little more on their plates than thinking about making a phone call to ask for help that is obviously needed...especially if those very folks are in the areas where communication has been cut off. It was obvious to everyone that the situation was far worse than ever expected. Something needs to change...immediately.
You may think as you like but there is something called THE CONSTITUTION AND a little thing called law. Something to with THE State not being all powerful over the states or somesuch.
You can research it and look it up.
Look at what it takes to federalize and activate National Guard units....Look at a recent ruling on WHO has control of the National Guard.....

If the Governor or Mayor doesn't have enough time to ask for federal aid then obviously the Governor or mayor does not care, or is not very skilled in his or her job.

It is the way the system works. No doubt if the Governor and Mayor had declared a National disater.........time would have been shaved off and some lives could have been saved.
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LB:
PirateJeff wrote:If everybody doen't like the way this situation was handled, contact your local congressmen and tell them to change these protocols for disaster situatuions, and that the feds should just bust in and push the local and state governments out of the way with little or nothing to say about the situation. That is essentially what everyone here is looking for to happen.
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Lightning Bolt wrote:Best have your rations stowed away, and plenty of ammo, huh? :-?
Laugh now but every citizen in the United States, no matter where you reside, should have at least 3 days of food and water on hand at all times. If you don't, you're a fool. If you think it can't happen to you, you're a fool.

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Sam wrote:
ph4ever wrote:The mayor lost his home - he rode out the storm and has been staying in a downtown hotel with no electricity, water etc just like the citizens of his city that stayed and where facing this catastrophic event.

The LA Gov. was in Baton Rouge. I mean wouldn't you expect the govenor of your state to be in the State Capitol??

And Bush was at his comfy ranch in Crawford Texas. Yea he did cut his vacation sort - by one day- BIG FREAKING DEAL. It wasn't until he started getting severe critizism did he do anything to step up the pace of FEMA.

You can defend Bush until the cows come home however that dosn't change the fact that he is Commander in Chief, the inefective rescue of US Citizens on US soil was a sloppy job and as Commander in chief this falls all on his shoulders - like it or not!!


Okies Where you? Perhaps in your comfy abode? It is ok for you to be comfy while slamming someone else? DO you really expect the POTUS to be at ground zero? :roll:

Why would or should I or anyone expect the Governor to be at the state capitol ?They could be anywhere just as you or anyone else can be.
You can slam anyone you want to but at least try to be accurate and informed before you do.
So what if the Mayor lost his home? Do did tens or hundreds of thousands or maybe more lost their homes and much more...

MORE IMPORTANTLY WHY DIDN'T THE MAYOR DO HIS JOB PROPERLY?
WHY DIDN'T THE GOVERNOR DO HER JOB PROPERLY????
Let me know when you actually care enough about that, instead of whining about President Bush and the various federal agencies!
IF the Governor and Mayor had acted appropriately....the federal teams could have responded faster. Care to argue that point?

If your going to be accusatory...PLEASE accuse the right people...but so far you have not...not that I really expect that you want to....I mean after all you have a problem with people that were told to keep at least a 3 day supply of food and water on hand, As anyone that lives in an area subject to hurricanes knows. AFTER BEING REPEATEDLY TOLD TO SO, going without and want to blame President Bush and the Federal Goverment.
But that is your problem and those people suffered because they chose to not follow the guidelines and don't try to bs me because they were poor and black or that President Bush is a racist.

What part of THE GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR KNEW IN ADVANCE AND DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.... AND THE PEOPLE DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION !!! Do you fail to understand???

First of all Sam before you start throwing assumptions around you really need to KNOW what you are talking about. You state I have not accused the right people - obviously you have failed to READ the posts I've made. From page 2 the very first post I made on this issue
ph4ever wrote:
Tony5150RN wrote:Being a part-time FEMA employee, let me say that things were being done long before the storm made landfall. The reason that the response seemed slow was because this was a tri-disaster situation covering a large area. This type of scenario is something that FEMA has never dealt with before. Not only was there the storm itself, there was the flood (disaster # 2), and then the unrest in the city (disaster #3.) Unfortunately, the area that got the most media attention was New Orleans. The media failed to show the relief efforts that were proceeding, as early as Monday evening, in the rest of LA, Mississippi, and Alabama.

I believe the Tsunami victums were dropped water within 2 days. People in NO went for days with no water or food drops - that is completely unacceptable.

And being that NO is deep in the south you can expect the race issue to be played. HOWEVER the fact is that of the people that were left there, many were poor and elderly. The fact is they are Humans and US Citizens and they did not diserve to be ignored, abondended and left to die - which is what happened for whatever reason. Many are to blame for this tragedy - starting with the NO Government responsible for the levies; not researching and spending their money foolishly. BUT the fact is that this was a US disaster which happened during Bush's term. Bush could have ordered aid there quicker and he didn't. It wasn't until he started to be criticized by numerous people did he step up the way he should a week ago.

This is a national disgrace. No ifs ands or buts about it.
and then I stated it again on page 3
ph4ever wrote:
Dezdemona wrote:Since the first calls for assistance must start at the local level, lets see what type of Federal Assistande the Govenor of the State of Louisiana requested:

http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster%20Rel ... equest.pdf

So... (if this is the real thing...)

In anticipation of what was at the time a Category 5 storm (knowing the levees were only meant to withstand a Cat 3 storm), the Govenor of the State of Louisiana asks for a total of 130M in aid.

Thank goodness the storm weakened and went east.

She asked for:

$0 for Coordination
$0 for Technical and Advisory Assistance
$30M (Est) for Debris Removal
$25M (Est) for Emergency Protective Measures
$75M (Est) for Individual & Household Programs
$0 for Distribution of Emergency Supplies (hmmm...)

Seems to me the Govenor of Louisiana had NO reasonable/realistic emergency preparedness plan.

Included are:
3 special needs shelters - 3 on standby: at a cost of 500K a week each
3 hospital shelters - 3 on standby (the way i'm interpreting it) at a cost of 500K a week each.
generators for the 6 shelters: up to 500K
Louisiana State Police (added cost) 500K for a direct landfall
Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries costs to support evacuations: 500K for a direct landfall
Louisiana Department of Transportation: $5M for evacuations for a direct landfall

We are also beginning to hear that the highest winds recorded in New Orleans were 100 mph. If you consult your handy Saffir-Simpson Scale chart you will notice that would be in the range of a Cat 2 Hurricane. Therefore, shouldn't the levee's should've held? This will be a question for the engineers and everyone else who analyzes what happened in New Orleans. In the long run, we know the levee's did fail, and this is a separate issue from the response.

Just some questions to ponder and add to your information base.

Thanks Des!! Like I said the problems started with the local governments and led all the way up. However there's no way that Bush did not see the news coverage of the flooding. In the long run the handling of the disaster is a National disgrace and the reactions from Bush down through the government ranks are subject to inspection.

So Sam, I've already stated my point that the blame begins with the LOCAL governments. What's so dadgum hard for you to understand that? No - again you come on here and dog me to try to start a fight without having any decent sound reason to do so. You're trying to start an argument with me over what?? From what I can see the only thing is that I hold Bush accountable and you don't. I guess you fail to realize the office of the President of the Untied States is the highest office in the United States and when he saw that the state governments were failing to do their job it was his DUTY to step in as COMMANDER IN CHIEF. He didn't do that in a timely manner.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that many of the vicitms are retired or disabled people that have trouble putting food on their table on a day to day basis and that having three days worth of provisions stuck back is realy a monumental task?? Or is it that you don't care about those portions of society?

You've got anger problems and issues that you need to work on - perhaps counseling. It appears as if anytime you come on the boards it's to start some type of s*it with someone - aren't you tired of being so hateful and mean to people the way you are the majority of the time?

and in your own words Sam
If your going to be accusatory...PLEASE accuse the right people...but so far you have not...not that I really expect that you want to....
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Fox news just explained this whole situation perfectly.

Mayor then governor then feds.

The mayor gave the evac notice ONLY 24 hours before the storm hit at the URGING of the president. Local officials (N.O.) KNEW those people could not be evac'd. When overwhelmed the locals need to turn to the state. The state then turns to the feds. Bush declared a state of emer. 2 days before the hurricane(unheard of before the storm) to help mobilize for when the governor asked for help.
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Lightning Bolt wrote:
Sam wrote:Okies Where you? Perhaps in your comfy abode? It is ok for you to be comfy while slamming someone else? DO you really expect the POTUS to be at ground zero? :roll:

...What part of THE GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR KNEW IN ADVANCE AND DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.... AND THE PEOPLE DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION !!! Do you fail to understand???
The President was in my town sleeping at the comfy Hotel del Coronado that night.

Sam, what you are saying, in essence, is that these citizens who stayed behind , despite mandatory calls for evacuation,
DESERVED their fate, regardless if they survived the event, and should not expect Uncle Sam to bail them out.

Would you agree with this?


Meanwhile where were you sleeping??

No I would not say that anyone deserved such devastation and loss and suffering!!!! I will say this, while you want to compare your situation living in an earthquake area...you really don't have any idea when an earthquake is going to happen do you??

Care to say the same thing about these people, the Mayors, and the Governor??? AT LEAST THREE DAYS OR MORE went before Katrina hit.... Care to argue with that?
Do you and or anyone else that goes through an earthquake deserve it?

Care to deny if the people had followed the guidelines they would NOT have been thirsty or hungry for so many days?

THE POINT I AM MAKING ONCE AGAIN.....is people need to be more self reliant and self sustaining!!!

EVEN THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT,THE ARC/FEMA, and a whole long list of others, TELLS EVERYONE that to be prepared and self sufficient for AT LEAST THREE DAYS ......THAT IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME FOR AID AND RELIEF WORKERS TO GET TO THE AREA....

What part of that do you fail to comprehend and understand?

You claim you are self sufficient for an extended period.....what makes you different or better than anyone else or the survivors in Biloxi. or New Orleans or the the bayous or Pascagoula or anywhere else???
Are you smarter thn they are ?? Do you deserve more than they do?
Why should you keep and hoard so much when they don't??? Do you think it is up to you to supply them??? Do you think it is up to the federal goverment to supply everyone?

BTW I don't know of ANYONE around here or within many miles, that does not have a hurricane kit/box ready to go
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PirateJeff wrote:Fox news just explained this whole situation perfectly.

Mayor then governor then feds.

The mayor gave the evac notice ONLY 24 hours before the storm hit at the URGING of the president. Local officials (N.O.) KNEW those people could not be evac'd. When overwhelmed the locals need to turn to the state. The state then turns to the feds. Bush declared a state of emer. 2 days before the hurricane(unheard of before the storm) to help mobilize for when the governor asked for help.
In addition, it was President Bush who had to call the LA governor to tell her to activate the LA National Guard!
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Lightning Bolt wrote:
Sam wrote:Okies Where you? Perhaps in your comfy abode? It is ok for you to be comfy while slamming someone else? DO you really expect the POTUS to be at ground zero? :roll:

...What part of THE GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR KNEW IN ADVANCE AND DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.... AND THE PEOPLE DID NOT TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION !!! Do you fail to understand???
The President was in my town sleeping at the comfy Hotel del Coronado that night.

Sam, what you are saying, in essence, is that these citizens who stayed behind , despite mandatory calls for evacuation,
DESERVED their fate, regardless if they survived the event, and should not expect Uncle Sam to bail them out.

Would you agree with this?

kinda sounds like that now that he knows his friends are safe :-? :roll:
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Lightning Bolt wrote:Sam, what you are saying, in essence, is that these citizens who stayed behind , despite mandatory calls for evacuation,
DESERVED their fate, regardless if they survived the event, and should not expect Uncle Sam to bail them out.
What part of this is so difficult to understand?

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED
LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW
RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND
ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW
TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BEKILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE
OUTSIDE!


They knew the risks, they accepted the risks, now, unfortunately, they're paying the price. :( Of course they should be bailed out!
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Tony5150RN wrote:
PirateJeff wrote:Fox news just explained this whole situation perfectly.

Mayor then governor then feds.

The mayor gave the evac notice ONLY 24 hours before the storm hit at the URGING of the president. Local officials (N.O.) KNEW those people could not be evac'd. When overwhelmed the locals need to turn to the state. The state then turns to the feds. Bush declared a state of emer. 2 days before the hurricane(unheard of before the storm) to help mobilize for when the governor asked for help.
In addition, it was President Bush who had to call the LA governor to tell her to activate the LA National Guard!
well, you've really said it all, then
After all, Fox News has always been the clearest, most unbiased news source in these parts... :roll:

Did you actually believe what is left of LA's Guard, whoever's not in Iraq, could handle the situation? Who's being naive now?
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Lightning Bolt wrote:
Tony5150RN wrote:
PirateJeff wrote:Fox news just explained this whole situation perfectly.

Mayor then governor then feds.

The mayor gave the evac notice ONLY 24 hours before the storm hit at the URGING of the president. Local officials (N.O.) KNEW those people could not be evac'd. When overwhelmed the locals need to turn to the state. The state then turns to the feds. Bush declared a state of emer. 2 days before the hurricane(unheard of before the storm) to help mobilize for when the governor asked for help.
In addition, it was President Bush who had to call the LA governor to tell her to activate the LA National Guard!
well, you've really said it all, then
After all, Fox News has always been the clearest, most unbiased news source in these parts... :roll:
Just as unbiased as the Clinton News Network, uh, I mean CNN! :roll: :wink:
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Tony5150RN wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:Sam, what you are saying, in essence, is that these citizens who stayed behind , despite mandatory calls for evacuation,
DESERVED their fate, regardless if they survived the event, and should not expect Uncle Sam to bail them out.
What part of this is so difficult to understand?

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED
LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW
RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND
ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW
TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BEKILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE
OUTSIDE!


They knew the risks, they accepted the risks, now, unfortunately, they're paying the price. :(
and what is so hard to understand about Elderly, disabled, on benefits, don't drive, don't own a car had to get prescriptions - no money till the 3rd but I've got food so maybe I'll be lucky and survive. These people deserve for this to happen to this.

what happened to -
Give us your tired your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
For years we as a country have welcomed the unfortunate yet when a disaster happens to unfortunate US citizens people say Oh well - they should have got out. How do you get out with no money, no way?
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
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ph4ever wrote:
and what is so hard to understand about Elderly, disabled, on benefits, don't drive, don't own a car had to get prescriptions - no money till the 3rd but I've got food so maybe I'll be lucky and survive. These people deserve for this to happen to this.

what happened to -
Give us your tired your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
For years we as a country have welcomed the unfortunate yet when a disaster happens to unfortunate US citizens people say Oh well - they should have got out. How do you get out with no money, no way?
And once again, that's where the Local Officials dropped the ball. They know their demographics and did nothing but send them to a shelter, that had never been tested, without food and water.
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