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Posted: September 14, 2005 9:57 pm
by ph4ever
we had no problem getting tickets for Portland

Posted: September 14, 2005 10:04 pm
by A Balding Fan
Could have had a floor ticket---did not say what section all it said was row 20 seat 3

Posted: September 15, 2005 4:49 am
by Godsowndrunk
phinzupNW wrote:G.O.D.
I appreciate the "fatherly" advice from above.
(How is the view from up there on that high horse?) :roll:
Your "Let Them Eat Cake" attitude really struck a chord with me.
After all, I must remember my place....and not question those who portend to show me the way.
And when the ticket prices increase enough to finally send you to the top of the third balcony, I will be there to greet you with a double 'rita - rocks. You will probably need it :wink:

I am not trying to make waves here but if you were watching shows at the Euphoria Tavern here in Portland then you are at least 30 years older then me..so there is no way I could be a "Phatherly" figure.. and all I am saying is that they would not ask the prices they are asking if they knew people would not pay for them.....

I am not rich, and I never have claimed to be, but when good things come around, I do think its ok to splurge....after all ya gotta have some phun....right!!!!!!

Peace be with you here in the Great KeyNorthWest!!!!

Cheers
G.O.D

Posted: September 15, 2005 5:02 am
by Godsowndrunk
phinzupNW wrote: We have a very active parrothead club here in Portland which, according to Bubba's directive is frequently involved with community charitable events. JB requires all clubs to perform a set number of charitable events to exist.
Where was his commitment to these fans who work weekends in his name?? I haven't seen any efforts from his keepers to attempt to reward this club's loyalty with at least an opportunity to buy a block of tickets as was the case last time he played Portland.
I guess you could say I'm beginning to lose my sunny view of Margaritaville because of the increasing smog...
I know I shouldn't say this......and before I do I just want everyone who reads this to know that I do love all parrotheads the same....you are all dear people in my heart as we have a very very strong bond.....ok here it goes....

when you say "We" have a very active Parrothead club here in Portland, apparently you are not a Member of this club or you would know how WE get our Tickets.....Why do you think I did not bother with Pre-Sale tickets when I saw what they were offering.....

We do lots and lots of charitable events throughout the year as we volunteer our time in the Name of PHIP and being Good Parrotheads....All events we do, we always list our club name and they always recognize us from year to year...and that is a good feeling...

Just this last weekend at our 10th Anniversary Club Party we had lots of different things donated to us from Margaritaville Tequila that we raffled off and all the Proceeds are going to Hurricane Relief.

Cheers!

Posted: September 15, 2005 11:08 am
by parrothappy
I sold my Monday Wrigley Field tickets to a co-worker who is a Parrothead when I scored tickets for Sunday evening. She loves live music (as do I) and she is a big Stones fan. She went to the Stones concert in Soldier Field in Chicago last Saturday night. She told me that seats on the field originally went for in excess of $400 a piece! She was able to get field seats that were placed on sale the Wednesday or Thursday before the show for $175. Paying in excess of $100 to see Jimmy these days does not appear to be that unreasonable.

My issue is the willie-nillie way that tickets appear to be sold. The Wrigley shows were "sold-out" within an hour of going on sale.......or so we were told. Then the Wednesday before the Wrigley shows, seats became available for both days including hundreds of field seats on Monday. How does this work? Are the people who control the tickets purposely creating a "sold-out" situation in order to sell the less attractive seats first? I am very thankful that I was able to get seats for Sunday and then, at the last minute, also get field seats for Monday but is this really the truthful way of doing business? Is this a way to keep the "ticket brokers"....read scalpers, from getting many of the good tickets immediately after they go on sale? I suspect that not releasing all of the seats at first offering is not illegal but it seems to be a very questionable practice, but I will be as persistent as necessary to see Jimmy. I guess the moral is: Don't give up hope of getting seats for that show that you want to see.

Parrothappy

Posted: September 15, 2005 11:16 am
by RinglingRingling
parrothappy wrote:I sold my Monday Wrigley Field tickets to a co-worker who is a Parrothead when I scored tickets for Sunday evening. She loves live music (as do I) and she is a big Stones fan. She went to the Stones concert in Soldier Field in Chicago last Saturday night. She told me that seats on the field originally went for in excess of $400 a piece! She was able to get field seats that were placed on sale the Wednesday or Thursday before the show for $175. Paying in excess of $100 to see Jimmy these days does not appear to be that unreasonable.

My issue is the willie-nillie way that tickets appear to be sold. The Wrigley shows were "sold-out" within an hour of going on sale.......or so we were told. Then the Wednesday before the Wrigley shows, seats became available for both days including hundreds of field seats on Monday. How does this work? Are the people who control the tickets purposely creating a "sold-out" situation in order to sell the less attractive seats first? I am very thankful that I was able to get seats for Sunday and then, at the last minute, also get field seats for Monday but is this really the truthful way of doing business? Is this a way to keep the "ticket brokers"....read scalpers, from getting many of the good tickets immediately after they go on sale? I suspect that not releasing all of the seats at first offering is not illegal but it seems to be a very questionable practice, but I will be as persistent as necessary to see Jimmy. I guess the moral is: Don't give up hope of getting seats for that show that you want to see.

Parrothappy
probably just the opposite.

Posted: September 15, 2005 11:50 am
by ph4ever
parrothappy wrote:I sold my Monday Wrigley Field tickets to a co-worker who is a Parrothead when I scored tickets for Sunday evening. She loves live music (as do I) and she is a big Stones fan. She went to the Stones concert in Soldier Field in Chicago last Saturday night. She told me that seats on the field originally went for in excess of $400 a piece! She was able to get field seats that were placed on sale the Wednesday or Thursday before the show for $175. Paying in excess of $100 to see Jimmy these days does not appear to be that unreasonable.

My issue is the willie-nillie way that tickets appear to be sold. The Wrigley shows were "sold-out" within an hour of going on sale.......or so we were told. Then the Wednesday before the Wrigley shows, seats became available for both days including hundreds of field seats on Monday. How does this work? Are the people who control the tickets purposely creating a "sold-out" situation in order to sell the less attractive seats first? I am very thankful that I was able to get seats for Sunday and then, at the last minute, also get field seats for Monday but is this really the truthful way of doing business? Is this a way to keep the "ticket brokers"....read scalpers, from getting many of the good tickets immediately after they go on sale? I suspect that not releasing all of the seats at first offering is not illegal but it seems to be a very questionable practice, but I will be as persistent as necessary to see Jimmy. I guess the moral is: Don't give up hope of getting seats for that show that you want to see.

Parrothappy
well let me see if I can splain it to you as splained to me by a promoter. The band requests x number of tickets for each show, then you've got all the promoters, for example the corona distributors, that are given x number of tickets for each show. There's also others that get tickets, ie radio stations. Now if they don't have use for their tickets by a given date they are supposed to return them at which time they become availabe to the public.

Then there's the stage configuration itself. Promoters will over estimate the need for certain seats to not be sold due to sight restrictitons or the size of the stage itself. Once the stage is actually set up some seats can be released the day before the show or on show day around noon because the promoters found that they did have seats that would not have obstructed views where they originally thought the views would be restricted

hope I make sense - haven't had my coffee yet

Posted: September 15, 2005 12:02 pm
by land_shark3
nycparrothead wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
jackiesic wrote:I spent $285 face/fees for one of the Philly shows.
What kinda seats were those? My 2nd row seat in Philly only cost $160, all fees included.
Yep, my SECOND ROW SEAT in Philly also cost $160... :lol: :lol: :lol:
My front row seat in Vegas cost me... well, nevermind. :pirate:

Posted: September 15, 2005 12:13 pm
by CadiRita
Godsowndrunk wrote:
phinzupNW wrote: We have a very active parrothead club here in Portland which, according to Bubba's directive is frequently involved with community charitable events. JB requires all clubs to perform a set number of charitable events to exist.
Where was his commitment to these fans who work weekends in his name?? I haven't seen any efforts from his keepers to attempt to reward this club's loyalty with at least an opportunity to buy a block of tickets as was the case last time he played Portland.
I guess you could say I'm beginning to lose my sunny view of Margaritaville because of the increasing smog...
I know I shouldn't say this......and before I do I just want everyone who reads this to know that I do love all parrotheads the same....you are all dear people in my heart as we have a very very strong bond.....ok here it goes....

when you say "We" have a very active Parrothead club here in Portland, apparently you are not a Member of this club or you would know how WE get our Tickets.....Why do you think I did not bother with Pre-Sale tickets when I saw what they were offering.....

We do lots and lots of charitable events throughout the year as we volunteer our time in the Name of PHIP and being Good Parrotheads....All events we do, we always list our club name and they always recognize us from year to year...and that is a good feeling...

Just this last weekend at our 10th Anniversary Club Party we had lots of different things donated to us from Margaritaville Tequila that we raffled off and all the Proceeds are going to Hurricane Relief.

Cheers!
In the infamous affirmative words of the townspeople of Rock Ridge (Blazing Saddles), "Ruhr ruhr!"

:lol:

Posted: September 15, 2005 12:21 pm
by Godsowndrunk
CadiRita wrote:
Godsowndrunk wrote:
phinzupNW wrote: We have a very active parrothead club here in Portland which, according to Bubba's directive is frequently involved with community charitable events. JB requires all clubs to perform a set number of charitable events to exist.
Where was his commitment to these fans who work weekends in his name?? I haven't seen any efforts from his keepers to attempt to reward this club's loyalty with at least an opportunity to buy a block of tickets as was the case last time he played Portland.
I guess you could say I'm beginning to lose my sunny view of Margaritaville because of the increasing smog...
I know I shouldn't say this......and before I do I just want everyone who reads this to know that I do love all parrotheads the same....you are all dear people in my heart as we have a very very strong bond.....ok here it goes....

when you say "We" have a very active Parrothead club here in Portland, apparently you are not a Member of this club or you would know how WE get our Tickets.....Why do you think I did not bother with Pre-Sale tickets when I saw what they were offering.....

We do lots and lots of charitable events throughout the year as we volunteer our time in the Name of PHIP and being Good Parrotheads....All events we do, we always list our club name and they always recognize us from year to year...and that is a good feeling...

Just this last weekend at our 10th Anniversary Club Party we had lots of different things donated to us from Margaritaville Tequila that we raffled off and all the Proceeds are going to Hurricane Relief.

Cheers!
In the infamous affirmative words of the townspeople of Rock Ridge (Blazing Saddles), "Ruhr ruhr!"

:lol:
is that a good thing or a bad thing..... :pirate:

Posted: September 15, 2005 12:21 pm
by RinglingRingling
CadiRita wrote:
Godsowndrunk wrote:
phinzupNW wrote: We have a very active parrothead club here in Portland which, according to Bubba's directive is frequently involved with community charitable events. JB requires all clubs to perform a set number of charitable events to exist.
Where was his commitment to these fans who work weekends in his name?? I haven't seen any efforts from his keepers to attempt to reward this club's loyalty with at least an opportunity to buy a block of tickets as was the case last time he played Portland.
I guess you could say I'm beginning to lose my sunny view of Margaritaville because of the increasing smog...
I know I shouldn't say this......and before I do I just want everyone who reads this to know that I do love all parrotheads the same....you are all dear people in my heart as we have a very very strong bond.....ok here it goes....

when you say "We" have a very active Parrothead club here in Portland, apparently you are not a Member of this club or you would know how WE get our Tickets.....Why do you think I did not bother with Pre-Sale tickets when I saw what they were offering.....

We do lots and lots of charitable events throughout the year as we volunteer our time in the Name of PHIP and being Good Parrotheads....All events we do, we always list our club name and they always recognize us from year to year...and that is a good feeling...

Just this last weekend at our 10th Anniversary Club Party we had lots of different things donated to us from Margaritaville Tequila that we raffled off and all the Proceeds are going to Hurricane Relief.

Cheers!
In the infamous affirmative words of the townspeople of Rock Ridge (Blazing Saddles), "Ruhr ruhr!"

:lol:
a) joining a PHC just for tickets would be a bad idea, NW. It is about a lot more. If you want to join for that reason, here's hoping your point totals are never high enough to score them.

b) PHCs are allocated tickets based on a small pool to all clubs in an area around the venue being played. In the case of Portland, the draw would probably include all clubs in WA, OR, ID, and MT. From there, the tickets are broken down on a formula based on membership. Larger clubs get more tickets. This caused a bit of a stir with the Tampa concert last winter, because the Tampa PHC alone could have sucked up all the allocated tickets, before figuring in demand from other clubs in the region. (They have somewhere in the neighbourhood of 800 members or so, far in excess of the allocation).

Jimmy does take care of the PHCs, albeit a better way to do it would be more shows with the ticket allocations, but he doesn't exactly operate the way you would have people think in your post.

Posted: September 15, 2005 12:29 pm
by Godsowndrunk
RinglingRingling wrote:
CadiRita wrote:
Godsowndrunk wrote:
phinzupNW wrote: We have a very active parrothead club here in Portland which, according to Bubba's directive is frequently involved with community charitable events. JB requires all clubs to perform a set number of charitable events to exist.
Where was his commitment to these fans who work weekends in his name?? I haven't seen any efforts from his keepers to attempt to reward this club's loyalty with at least an opportunity to buy a block of tickets as was the case last time he played Portland.
I guess you could say I'm beginning to lose my sunny view of Margaritaville because of the increasing smog...
I know I shouldn't say this......and before I do I just want everyone who reads this to know that I do love all parrotheads the same....you are all dear people in my heart as we have a very very strong bond.....ok here it goes....

when you say "We" have a very active Parrothead club here in Portland, apparently you are not a Member of this club or you would know how WE get our Tickets.....Why do you think I did not bother with Pre-Sale tickets when I saw what they were offering.....

We do lots and lots of charitable events throughout the year as we volunteer our time in the Name of PHIP and being Good Parrotheads....All events we do, we always list our club name and they always recognize us from year to year...and that is a good feeling...

Just this last weekend at our 10th Anniversary Club Party we had lots of different things donated to us from Margaritaville Tequila that we raffled off and all the Proceeds are going to Hurricane Relief.

Cheers!
In the infamous affirmative words of the townspeople of Rock Ridge (Blazing Saddles), "Ruhr ruhr!"

:lol:
a) joining a PHC just for tickets would be a bad idea, NW.

yes a very bad Idea....our club gets tons of calls right before the show asking for tickets......is that fair to the people who do all the good work throughout the year and host phlockings and organize events on their own time.....No!

b) PHCs are allocated tickets based on a small pool to all clubs in an area around the venue being played. In the case of Portland, the draw would probably include all clubs in WA, OR, ID, and MT

And also California and probably Canada too this year because there is no other west coast shows.... thats why the pre concert party will be huge

in light of this whole thread.....I just want everyone who does buy a ticket to feel good about their purchase....and have lots of Phun on concert day.....who knows how much longer Jimmy will be doing this for us....

Posted: September 15, 2005 12:34 pm
by RinglingRingling
Godsowndrunk wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CadiRita wrote:
Godsowndrunk wrote:
phinzupNW wrote: We have a very active parrothead club here in Portland which, according to Bubba's directive is frequently involved with community charitable events. JB requires all clubs to perform a set number of charitable events to exist.
Where was his commitment to these fans who work weekends in his name?? I haven't seen any efforts from his keepers to attempt to reward this club's loyalty with at least an opportunity to buy a block of tickets as was the case last time he played Portland.
I guess you could say I'm beginning to lose my sunny view of Margaritaville because of the increasing smog...
I know I shouldn't say this......and before I do I just want everyone who reads this to know that I do love all parrotheads the same....you are all dear people in my heart as we have a very very strong bond.....ok here it goes....

when you say "We" have a very active Parrothead club here in Portland, apparently you are not a Member of this club or you would know how WE get our Tickets.....Why do you think I did not bother with Pre-Sale tickets when I saw what they were offering.....

We do lots and lots of charitable events throughout the year as we volunteer our time in the Name of PHIP and being Good Parrotheads....All events we do, we always list our club name and they always recognize us from year to year...and that is a good feeling...

Just this last weekend at our 10th Anniversary Club Party we had lots of different things donated to us from Margaritaville Tequila that we raffled off and all the Proceeds are going to Hurricane Relief.

Cheers!
In the infamous affirmative words of the townspeople of Rock Ridge (Blazing Saddles), "Ruhr ruhr!"

:lol:
a) joining a PHC just for tickets would be a bad idea, NW.

yes a very bad Idea....our club gets tons of calls right before the show asking for tickets......is that fair to the people who do all the good work throughout the year and host phlockings and organize events on their own time.....No!

b) PHCs are allocated tickets based on a small pool to all clubs in an area around the venue being played. In the case of Portland, the draw would probably include all clubs in WA, OR, ID, and MT
And also California and probably Canada too this year because there is no other west coast shows.... thats why the pre concert party will be huge

in light of this whole thread.....I just want everyone who does buy a ticket to feel good about their purchase....and have lots of Phun on concert day.....who knows how much longer Jimmy will be doing this for us....
Cali might be getting handled with the Vegas stuff, but not sure. And the new PHLOC PHC in Vancouver is "too young" to qualify for allocation, need to be in operation a year or more before you get that consideration.

and you are right: folks who actually put their time and money on the line for the cause deserve a bit better recognition than the "hey, I got shut out; I'mma member" types.

Posted: September 15, 2005 4:43 pm
by CadiRita
Godsowndrunk wrote:
CadiRita wrote:
Godsowndrunk wrote:
phinzupNW wrote: We have a very active parrothead club here in Portland which, according to Bubba's directive is frequently involved with community charitable events. JB requires all clubs to perform a set number of charitable events to exist.
Where was his commitment to these fans who work weekends in his name?? I haven't seen any efforts from his keepers to attempt to reward this club's loyalty with at least an opportunity to buy a block of tickets as was the case last time he played Portland.
I guess you could say I'm beginning to lose my sunny view of Margaritaville because of the increasing smog...
I know I shouldn't say this......and before I do I just want everyone who reads this to know that I do love all parrotheads the same....you are all dear people in my heart as we have a very very strong bond.....ok here it goes....

when you say "We" have a very active Parrothead club here in Portland, apparently you are not a Member of this club or you would know how WE get our Tickets.....Why do you think I did not bother with Pre-Sale tickets when I saw what they were offering.....

We do lots and lots of charitable events throughout the year as we volunteer our time in the Name of PHIP and being Good Parrotheads....All events we do, we always list our club name and they always recognize us from year to year...and that is a good feeling...

Just this last weekend at our 10th Anniversary Club Party we had lots of different things donated to us from Margaritaville Tequila that we raffled off and all the Proceeds are going to Hurricane Relief.

Cheers!
In the infamous affirmative words of the townspeople of Rock Ridge (Blazing Saddles), "Ruhr ruhr!"

:lol:
is that a good thing or a bad thing..... :pirate:
Definitely a good thing: I'm in support of what you said. But it was early, I hadn't had enough coffee yet and I couldn't think of the term: "hear hear". So I went with the toast we use at the bar. :roll:

Posted: September 15, 2005 4:50 pm
by CadiRita
Godsowndrunk wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CadiRita wrote:
Godsowndrunk wrote:
phinzupNW wrote: We have a very active parrothead club here in Portland which, according to Bubba's directive is frequently involved with community charitable events. JB requires all clubs to perform a set number of charitable events to exist.
Where was his commitment to these fans who work weekends in his name?? I haven't seen any efforts from his keepers to attempt to reward this club's loyalty with at least an opportunity to buy a block of tickets as was the case last time he played Portland.
I guess you could say I'm beginning to lose my sunny view of Margaritaville because of the increasing smog...
I know I shouldn't say this......and before I do I just want everyone who reads this to know that I do love all parrotheads the same....you are all dear people in my heart as we have a very very strong bond.....ok here it goes....

when you say "We" have a very active Parrothead club here in Portland, apparently you are not a Member of this club or you would know how WE get our Tickets.....Why do you think I did not bother with Pre-Sale tickets when I saw what they were offering.....

We do lots and lots of charitable events throughout the year as we volunteer our time in the Name of PHIP and being Good Parrotheads....All events we do, we always list our club name and they always recognize us from year to year...and that is a good feeling...

Just this last weekend at our 10th Anniversary Club Party we had lots of different things donated to us from Margaritaville Tequila that we raffled off and all the Proceeds are going to Hurricane Relief.

Cheers!
In the infamous affirmative words of the townspeople of Rock Ridge (Blazing Saddles), "Ruhr ruhr!"

:lol:
a) joining a PHC just for tickets would be a bad idea, NW.

yes a very bad Idea....our club gets tons of calls right before the show asking for tickets......is that fair to the people who do all the good work throughout the year and host phlockings and organize events on their own time.....No!

b) PHCs are allocated tickets based on a small pool to all clubs in an area around the venue being played. In the case of Portland, the draw would probably include all clubs in WA, OR, ID, and MT

And also California and probably Canada too this year because there is no other west coast shows.... thats why the pre concert party will be huge

in light of this whole thread.....I just want everyone who does buy a ticket to feel good about their purchase....and have lots of Phun on concert day.....who knows how much longer Jimmy will be doing this for us....

I absolutely agree! Don't join just a club for the free tickets. That's just not very nice. It's not about "putting your time in" by doing Club things and you get cool stuff. It's a life style. It's a passion. It's about selflessly doing good things for others via the charitable events, and blessing other people's lives. The reward is the friendships you make and making someone else's life better.

I hope that makes sense.

Posted: September 15, 2005 5:04 pm
by Dutch Harbor PH
Godsowndrunk wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CadiRita wrote:
Godsowndrunk wrote:
phinzupNW wrote: We have a very active parrothead club here in Portland which, according to Bubba's directive is frequently involved with community charitable events. JB requires all clubs to perform a set number of charitable events to exist.
Where was his commitment to these fans who work weekends in his name?? I haven't seen any efforts from his keepers to attempt to reward this club's loyalty with at least an opportunity to buy a block of tickets as was the case last time he played Portland.
I guess you could say I'm beginning to lose my sunny view of Margaritaville because of the increasing smog...
I know I shouldn't say this......and before I do I just want everyone who reads this to know that I do love all parrotheads the same....you are all dear people in my heart as we have a very very strong bond.....ok here it goes....

when you say "We" have a very active Parrothead club here in Portland, apparently you are not a Member of this club or you would know how WE get our Tickets.....Why do you think I did not bother with Pre-Sale tickets when I saw what they were offering.....

We do lots and lots of charitable events throughout the year as we volunteer our time in the Name of PHIP and being Good Parrotheads....All events we do, we always list our club name and they always recognize us from year to year...and that is a good feeling...

Just this last weekend at our 10th Anniversary Club Party we had lots of different things donated to us from Margaritaville Tequila that we raffled off and all the Proceeds are going to Hurricane Relief.

Cheers!
In the infamous affirmative words of the townspeople of Rock Ridge (Blazing Saddles), "Ruhr ruhr!"

:lol:
a) joining a PHC just for tickets would be a bad idea, NW.

yes a very bad Idea....our club gets tons of calls right before the show asking for tickets......is that fair to the people who do all the good work throughout the year and host phlockings and organize events on their own time.....No!

b) PHCs are allocated tickets based on a small pool to all clubs in an area around the venue being played. In the case of Portland, the draw would probably include all clubs in WA, OR, ID, and MT

And also California and probably Canada too this year because there is no other west coast shows.... thats why the pre concert party will be huge

in light of this whole thread.....I just want everyone who does buy a ticket to feel good about their purchase....and have lots of Phun on concert day.....who knows how much longer Jimmy will be doing this for us....
Along the same vein as you last comments.....Where's the pre party?????
As I would like to have a good time and quit bitchin' about the price of the ticket......geeeeezzzzz he hasn't been here for 3 years!!! OK OK 2 years...WHite River counts.... ANyWay....Where's the party??!!

Posted: September 15, 2005 5:16 pm
by 12vmanRick
LIPH wrote:Last time I checked, TM and the promoters weren't holding guns to anyone's head forcing them to buy tickets. :roll:
although I agree with you to some degree, how else are you going to get tickets except through them?

I can assure you if there was another way a lot of people would use it!

Posted: September 15, 2005 5:19 pm
by 12vmanRick
[quote="Godsowndrunkthey would not ask the prices they are asking if they knew people would not pay for them.....
[/quote]

I agree and until you have people saying NO to the purchase price, they are going to continue to go up. But the moment you have one person say no another will come in and say "oh, it' Jimmy" or "Oh, it's only once a year" or something else, so will it stop anytime soon? NO, when he can charge almost $300 in Vegas, where is the limit?

Posted: September 15, 2005 5:20 pm
by LIPH
12vmanRick wrote:
LIPH wrote:Last time I checked, TM and the promoters weren't holding guns to anyone's head forcing them to buy tickets. :roll:
although I agree with you to some degree, how else are you going to get tickets except through them?

I can assure you if there was another way a lot of people would use it!
What I meant was if anyone is really that upset about the ticket price, stay home.

Posted: September 15, 2005 5:23 pm
by 12vmanRick
LIPH wrote:
12vmanRick wrote:
LIPH wrote:Last time I checked, TM and the promoters weren't holding guns to anyone's head forcing them to buy tickets. :roll:
although I agree with you to some degree, how else are you going to get tickets except through them?

I can assure you if there was another way a lot of people would use it!
What I meant was if anyone is really that upset about the ticket price, stay home.
LOL