Gift-Wrapping the World Series
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Gift-Wrapping the World Series
First let me say, I am not a fan of either the Astros or the Cards. In fact, I'm a Phillies fan (woe is I) and I have reason to dislike both teams. However, I am a fan of baseball.
With that said, last night's game was rediculous. When the second base umpire called the Cardinal runner out (I am drawing a blank on his name) when he clearly was safe, the game was over right there. That out and the open base changed teh way Oswalt could pitch to the next batter. Not to mention to the fact, that any momentum that St. Louis had was instantly diminished. The umps should have stopped the game right there and awarded the LCS to the Astros.
The big problem - there needs to be a booth review of questionable calls. This one, and the call in the White Sox-Angles game clearly show the need for this. I know baseball isn't perfect, but when playing for the LCS, World Series or whatever, there needs to be the ability to call the game FAIRLY.
Remember, I'm not a fan of either team. I just an old school fan who wants to see a fair game.
With that said, last night's game was rediculous. When the second base umpire called the Cardinal runner out (I am drawing a blank on his name) when he clearly was safe, the game was over right there. That out and the open base changed teh way Oswalt could pitch to the next batter. Not to mention to the fact, that any momentum that St. Louis had was instantly diminished. The umps should have stopped the game right there and awarded the LCS to the Astros.
The big problem - there needs to be a booth review of questionable calls. This one, and the call in the White Sox-Angles game clearly show the need for this. I know baseball isn't perfect, but when playing for the LCS, World Series or whatever, there needs to be the ability to call the game FAIRLY.
Remember, I'm not a fan of either team. I just an old school fan who wants to see a fair game.
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Re: Gift-Wrapping the World Series
Question will be, how would you go about implementing this system?mings wrote:First let me say, I am not a fan of either the Astros or the Cards. In fact, I'm a Phillies fan (woe is I) and I have reason to dislike both teams. However, I am a fan of baseball.
With that said, last night's game was rediculous. When the second base umpire called the Cardinal runner out (I am drawing a blank on his name) when he clearly was safe, the game was over right there. That out and the open base changed teh way Oswalt could pitch to the next batter. Not to mention to the fact, that any momentum that St. Louis had was instantly diminished. The umps should have stopped the game right there and awarded the LCS to the Astros.
The big problem - there needs to be a booth review of questionable calls. This one, and the call in the White Sox-Angles game clearly show the need for this. I know baseball isn't perfect, but when playing for the LCS, World Series or whatever, there needs to be the ability to call the game FAIRLY.
Remember, I'm not a fan of either team. I just an old school fan who wants to see a fair game.
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Re: Gift-Wrapping the World Series
There could be a guy in a booth upstairs who, like in football, has access to the video feeds of whatever network(s) are covering the game. It's not hard to know when there is a call that is questionable. At that time he would review the feeds and different camera angles and make his decision. However, to keep this person from running the game, his call would not count until the umps conferenced. The managers could request a conference, and then the umps would essentially ask the "booth dude" what the video shows. Like in football, there would have to be enough evidence to overturn the call on the field. Strikes and balls would not count for this. Mainly, I see it as a way to accurately judge the baserunners and questionably (un) fielded balls.aeroparrot wrote:
Question will be, how would you go about implementing this system?
Just a thought.
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
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Miss the OC?buffettbride wrote:I'm just glad we can move on to the World Series. Hopefully it'll be a sweep. I don't care who wins, but with only 8 channels of TV, I want FOX back.![]()
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
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Some people don't watch now because of the length of the games, you are asking for 5 hour games.
Human error, player, managers and umpires is a part of the game. What really needs to be addressed is the quality of the umpire and their apparent desire to be a part of the show.
Human error, player, managers and umpires is a part of the game. What really needs to be addressed is the quality of the umpire and their apparent desire to be a part of the show.
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Actually, I think the process that I propose is no longer than the current process. We can even limit the teams ability to request the conference. I don't imagine that this would be used often. I just want to set up some fail-safe to keep the game from being determined unfairly. I understand human error, but in the case of last night, I feel that "human error" is not an acceptible explination.Cubbie Bear wrote:Some people don't watch now because of the length of the games, you are asking for 5 hour games.
Human error, player, managers and umpires is a part of the game. What really needs to be addressed is the quality of the umpire and their apparent desire to be a part of the show.
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
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News is overrated.buffettbride wrote:Ummmm. No.mings wrote:Miss the OC?buffettbride wrote:I'm just glad we can move on to the World Series. Hopefully it'll be a sweep. I don't care who wins, but with only 8 channels of TV, I want FOX back.![]()
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The news starts at 9pm on Fox here in Denver and that way I get to bed at a reasonable hour.
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
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I only watch it for the weather.mings wrote:News is overrated.buffettbride wrote:Ummmm. No.mings wrote:Miss the OC?buffettbride wrote:I'm just glad we can move on to the World Series. Hopefully it'll be a sweep. I don't care who wins, but with only 8 channels of TV, I want FOX back.![]()
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The news starts at 9pm on Fox here in Denver and that way I get to bed at a reasonable hour.
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What do they know? It's always wrong anyway.buffettbride wrote:
I only watch it for the weather.![]()
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
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I'm not a fan of either team either, and have DESPISED the Cardinals for over 20 years now. HOWEVER, that was clearly the WRONG call at second base, and it's really too bad. I'm all for an instant replay system-whatever it takes to make the RIGHT calls. We live in an age of technology-let's take advantage of it. If, by making the right calls, the team I happen to be cheering for loses, so be it. If victory isn't earned, it isn't deserved.
That being said, I'm happy for both the Astros & White Sox. I don't know who I'll cheer for in the World Series-probably the White Sox, as I'm mostly an American League fan, but I'm happy for Jeff Bagwell & Craig Biggio. I hope the series goes all seven games, and that the TEAMS determine the winner, and NOT the umpires.
That being said, I'm happy for both the Astros & White Sox. I don't know who I'll cheer for in the World Series-probably the White Sox, as I'm mostly an American League fan, but I'm happy for Jeff Bagwell & Craig Biggio. I hope the series goes all seven games, and that the TEAMS determine the winner, and NOT the umpires.
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Amen. I heard a quote once: The best umps/refs are those whose names you don't know.Wino you know wrote:I'm not a fan of either team either, and have DESPISED the Cardinals for over 20 years now. HOWEVER, that was clearly the WRONG call at second base, and it's really too bad. I'm all for an instant replay system-whatever it takes to make the RIGHT calls. We live in an age of technology-let's take advantage of it. If, by making the right calls, the team I happen to be cheering for loses, so be it. If victory isn't earned, it isn't deserved.
That being said, I'm happy for both the Astros & White Sox. I don't know who I'll cheer for in the World Series-probably the White Sox, as I'm mostly an American League fan, but I'm happy for Jeff Bagwell & Craig Biggio. I hope the series goes all seven games, and that the TEAMS determine the winner, and NOT the umpires.
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
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As a child I spent many an hour at the Astrodome with my family. My grandmother was a huge baseball fan and every time we would go see her in Houston we'd go to games.
Despite the call I'm glad the Astros finally made it to the World Series.
Despite the call I'm glad the Astros finally made it to the World Series.
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