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Red Sox GM Resigns

Posted: October 31, 2005 5:56 pm
by Zuke
AP-Red Sox-Epstein URGENT

BOSTON (AP) - Theo Epstein has resigned as general manager of
the Boston Red Sox.

(Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Posted: October 31, 2005 5:58 pm
by Lightning Bolt
what is UP with that???

Where does he go now? Back to the Padres? :roll: :o :lol:

Posted: October 31, 2005 5:59 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
:o :o :o

Posted: October 31, 2005 6:01 pm
by Zuke
I don't understand how the players can get $20,000,000 a year, he couldn't get $2.5.

Posted: October 31, 2005 6:02 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
Zuke wrote:I don't understand how the players can get $20,000,000 a year, he couldn't get $2.5.
Ditto. :-?

Posted: October 31, 2005 6:05 pm
by FinsUp328
BREAKING SPORTS NEWS: Red Sox General Manager Theo Epstein has declined the club's offer of a three-year extension of his contract, and will leave the organization. The Red Sox announced this evening that Epstein will continue to work with the club for several days "to assist in an orderly transition and to prepare further for the upcoming GM meetings and other off-season activities." --Developing

http://boston.com/

:-?

Posted: October 31, 2005 6:05 pm
by Zuke
heo Epstein rejects contract offer; leaves Red Sox

BOSTON (AP) - Theo Epstein has resigned as general manager of
the Boston Red Sox.
A statement released by the team tonight says Epstein declined
the club's offer to extend his contract, and instead decided to
step down.
It also says Epstein will continue to work with the team for
several days to help in an "orderly transition" and to prepare
for upcoming general manager meetings.
Epstein's departure comes the same day that published reports
indicated the 31-year-old was going to sign a new deal with the
team.
At one point, it was reported that he rejected a three-year deal
worth one-point-two (m) million dollars annually, triple his
previous salary. He's the youngest general manager ever to build a
World Series-winner.
His three contract expires at midnight tonight.

Posted: October 31, 2005 6:10 pm
by NYCPORT
Awwwww shucks, that's too bad. HEHEHEHEHE.
2090 here we come!

Posted: October 31, 2005 6:23 pm
by Zuke
Shouldn't you be more concerned with the Jets these days? :lol:

Posted: October 31, 2005 6:38 pm
by NYCPORT
Not at all. We're playing for Reggie. All we have to do is keep losing and we've got a shot.
You should be concerned with the Pats. They aint exactly world beaters this year.
Typical Sox fan...Stick to the topic one and done boy! :P

Posted: October 31, 2005 6:44 pm
by jonesbeach10
The reason he left is because of the contract Cashman got. He probably wanted the same one with similar powers (aka have final say over meddling owners)

Posted: October 31, 2005 7:00 pm
by tequilatom
October 31, 2005
Theo leaves Sox
By Globe Staff
In a stunning development, Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein has declined the club's offer of a three-year extension of his contract, and will leave the organization.

The Red Sox announced this evening that Epstein will continue to work with the club for several days "to assist in an orderly transition and to prepare further for the upcoming GM meetings and other off-season activities."

Epstein had been expected to accept a three-year deal worth $1.5 million per year but after indications that he would take that offer, he changed his mind. The three-year deal Epstein signed in 2002 expires at midnight tonight.

"He did resign," Red Sox spokesman Charles Steinberg told the Associated Press.

According to WBZ-TV, Epstein has already packed his office and left Fenway Park. The Dodgers, Phillies and Devil Rays have GM openings, but none has a $120 million payroll to match the one Epstein was given in Boston.

It is not known who the leading candidates are to take Epstein’s place, but the team will likely move quickly to replace him. Epstein’s top assistant, Josh Byrnes, recently left the Red Sox to take the general manager’s position with the Arizona Diamondbacks.

Jed Hoyer, the Sox' 31-year-old assistant to the GM, was the leading candidate to succeed Byrnes as assistant GM. It is not known whether Hoyer will be a candidate to succeed Epstein.

When the most recent round of negotiations began, Epstein received an initial offer of about $850,000 per year and a second offer of $1.2 million per year, both of which he rejected, the Globe reported.

A sticking point during the team's negotiations for a new contract was Epstein’s relationship with Red Sox CEO Larry Lucchino, but it wasn't immediately clear how much of a factor that was in making his final decision.

Sources familiar with Epstein's thinking told the Globe last week that he does not question the propriety of reporting to the CEO but chafes at times at the degree to which Lucchino involves himself in baseball decisions, and at a perceived lack of respect toward the baseball side.

In a column in Sunday’s Boston Globe, Dan Shaughnessy wrote that “the father-son dynamic of Lucchino and Epstein has been unveiled before all of Red Sox Nation. The family linen was aired publicly and now every move will be examined for fingerprints: Theo or Larry? Did they agree? Did Theo have to talk Larry into it? Or was this some bigfoot move by Lucchino?”

More from Shaughnessy: “Theo Epstein is a truly remarkable young man from a truly remarkable family. He would be a success in any field of his choice and Boston is fortunate that he set out to have a career in baseball. He got to the mountaintop faster than anyone in the history of the game and deserves to be paid accordingly. But he did not get there alone.”

Lucchino has known Epstein since he began as a summer intern with the Orioles in 1992, and has mentored Epstein through an apprenticeship that continued in San Diego when Lucchino moved to the Padres, and then to Boston, where Lucchino first hired Epstein as assistant GM shortly after the new ownership group took control in 2002, and promoted him to GM a year later.


Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling, in an interview a few days ago on Boston sports radio station WEEI, praised the work Epstein had done.

“Theo has made himself into what he is and I heard some people talking about the fact that if Theo goes they’ll bring in another guy, cause it’s the system and I absolutely 100 percent disagree with that,” Schilling said.

Epstein was baseball's youngest general manager when he was hired before the 2003 season.

A devotee of statistical analysis who values his scouts as well, Epstein's tenure has been marked by bold adventures that often conflicted with baseball orthodoxy:


He signed first baseman Kevin Millar, despite an unspoken agreement not to poach from Japanese clubs.


He went without a traditional closer in his first year, with disastrous results.


He tried to trade for reigning MVP Alex Rodriguez -- a deal that would have meant shipping out Manny Ramirez and Nomar Garciaparra -- and then, without remorse, pulled the plug when the deal became too expensive.


He ate Thanksgiving dinner with Curt Schilling in a college football-style recruiting trip that lured the right-handed ace to Boston.


He traded Garciaparra, the face of the franchise, for the parts he needed to complete the World Series puzzle.

But the efforts have paid off.

The Red Sox reached the AL championship series in 2003 before the lack of a closer doomed Grady Little in Game 7 at Yankee Stadium. The next year, with a new manager and the closer it had lacked, the ballclub won its first World Series in 86 years.

Boston reached the postseason for a third consecutive year this season before getting swept by the Chicago White Sox in the first round.

The Sox are currently in a 15-day period after the end of the World Series when they can negotiate with their own free agents, with Johnny Damon the most high profile player.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.




I'm actually shocked.........everyone was reporting he signed.......this will set the Red Sox back a couple years...... He should take the Tampa Job......they are very good young team....withthe right moves could content in a couple of years.

Posted: October 31, 2005 7:43 pm
by LaTda
I'm not overly concerned about this :D




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Posted: October 31, 2005 9:40 pm
by jonesbeach10
That was 5 years, a little more than 5% of what your old drought was.

Posted: October 31, 2005 9:57 pm
by LaTda
jonesbeach10 wrote:That was 5 years, a little more than 5% of what your old drought was.
5 & counting :lol:

Posted: October 31, 2005 11:13 pm
by mings
Maybe he wants to come to Philly. God knows we need the help. What he's done there has been infinitely better than what we've gotten from Ed Wade.

Posted: October 31, 2005 11:39 pm
by TheSecretsInTheCrust
NYCPORT wrote:Not at all. We're playing for Reggie. All we have to do is keep losing and we've got a shot.
You should be concerned with the Pats. They aint exactly world beaters this year.
Typical Sox fan...Stick to the topic one and done boy! :P
The Vikiings and Packers are gonna give The Jets (Just End This Season) a run for it. I've known Reggie Bush since he was a freshman at Helix HS in San Diego. He played 1 game for the freshman team...required by, then, head coach Jim Arniaz. He ran back the opening kick off, a punt return, ran for 2 more TD's and caught a TD pass. The next day he was on the Varsity team catching passes from last years first pick Alex Smith. One of the wide outs on that team was BYU's #1 receiver Todd Watkins along 7 other players, mostly lineman, that are at Division 1 schools.

Posted: November 1, 2005 9:06 am
by Zuke
NYCPORT wrote:Not at all. We're playing for Reggie. All we have to do is keep losing and we've got a shot.
You should be concerned with the Pats. They aint exactly world beaters this year.
Typical Sox fan...Stick to the topic one and done boy! :P
Come on, Matt...........I'm an Indy Colts Fan, and a Patriots hater! Remember the beers in the snow at Giants Stadium a few years ago? I've blacked out the game though, can't remember how that went. :lol:

Posted: November 1, 2005 9:22 am
by NYCPORT
Oh yeah that's right! Fun day!!! :D :D :D

Posted: November 1, 2005 9:55 am
by MacPhin
i'm so friggin p*** off at larry! :x :x :x :x :x
i'd like to print up shirts that say LARRY SUCKS.

i don't think it was the $$ for theo...it was on & off again tension between the 2.

i've decided that i'm not going to get involved with the soxs next year. they're imploding. :cry: