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Posted: November 22, 2005 9:01 am
by tequilatom
parrothead338 wrote:As much as it sucks to give up a 5-tool prospect like Hanley, getting a pitcher as young and talented as Beckett who could acnhor your rotation for 10+ years eases my reservations about losing Hanley alot.
i'm always not sold on prospects.If you can get a proven Major Leaguer do it. The Mets have Miledge......if i can get Manny for him i would do it.Until How many times do you here a guy is a can't miss and fails. Hanley i've been hearing about for 3-4 years.......why isn't he up if he has all the tools??

Posted: November 22, 2005 10:55 am
by CaptainP
NorthernConch wrote:
MonumentBeach wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:Padres rumors are percolating!

Giles wants to make the deal to come back this week?
Loretta or Otsuka to Red Sox for Wells?
Adam Eaton to Texas for ????

verrrry interesting! :P
I wouldn't mind seeing Wells to the Padres in return for Dave Roberts. Roberts is a hero forever in Boston. A great utility player.
wells back to the padres?
I heard exactly that rumor....Wells for Roberts

Posted: November 22, 2005 11:50 am
by aeroparrot
I heard that there are trade rumors of Beckett going to the Red Sox now.

Posted: November 22, 2005 11:51 am
by CaptainP
aeroparrot wrote:I heard that there are trade rumors of Beckett going to the Red Sox now.
All but done: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/arti ... &fext=.jsp

Posted: November 22, 2005 11:51 am
by iuparrothead
CaptainP wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:
CaptainP wrote:Scott Eyre signs with Cubs....good move.
Yes. And interesting that the Trib ran an article the day before this signing saying Eyre's agent just had a great meeting with Kenny Williams. Ha! Win the WS and players still would rather play for the Northsiders!
I actually heard that Eyre's agent was contacted by ALL 30 TEAMS!!!
More proof that Jim Hendry is one hell of a GM... now if Dusty could prove to be one hell of a manager... :-?
Dreams............................................
I know... :-? Stranger things have happened though. I'm going to stick by him through the last year of his contract.

Posted: November 22, 2005 11:54 am
by CaptainP
Jeff Cirillo resigned with Milwaukee
Eric Young signed with Padres
Bobby Hill traded from Pirates to Padres

Posted: November 22, 2005 11:54 am
by aeroparrot
CaptainP wrote:
aeroparrot wrote:I heard that there are trade rumors of Beckett going to the Red Sox now.
All but done: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/arti ... &fext=.jsp
Well, make sense for the Red Sox considering how badly they needed pitching last year.

Posted: November 22, 2005 12:48 pm
by BottleofRum
tequilatom wrote:
parrothead338 wrote:As much as it sucks to give up a 5-tool prospect like Hanley, getting a pitcher as young and talented as Beckett who could acnhor your rotation for 10+ years eases my reservations about losing Hanley alot.
i'm always not sold on prospects.If you can get a proven Major Leaguer do it. The Mets have Miledge......if i can get Manny for him i would do it.Until How many times do you here a guy is a can't miss and fails. Hanley i've been hearing about for 3-4 years.......why isn't he up if he has all the tools??
The Red Sox are giving up a lot. No doubt they are a better team with Beckett and Lowell next season than they were this season but they are getting rid of two of their best prospects, one of which (Hanley) was deemed untouchable. But how often do can't miss prospects turn out to be stars? Look at the top 15 2002 Baseball America prospects:

#1 Josh Beckett, #2 Mark Prior #3 Sean Burroughs #4 Hank Blalock #5 Joe Borchard #6 Wilson Betemit #7 Josh Hamilton #8 Carlos Pena #9 Adrian Gonzalez #10 Boof Bonser #11 Wily Mo Pena #12 Ryan Anderson #13 Nick Johnson #14 Juan Cruz #15 Brandon Phillips

Mike Lowell stinks! Maybe a change in scenery will help but I think we are looking at another Kevin Millar. But at least Lowell is great in the field and knows how to do the hidden ball trick :lol: no pun intended because as we all know Lowell only has one ball... :o

Posted: November 22, 2005 12:51 pm
by iuparrothead
I wish my name was Boof Bonser. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: November 22, 2005 12:59 pm
by Cubbie Bear
I wanted to be Bif Pocaroba when I grew up

Posted: November 23, 2005 8:53 am
by parrothead338
Mets get Delgado... sucks to be a Marlins fan.

I also love seeing all the big trades happening with the Yanks 2 biggest rivals. I wonder when George will make his big move...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story ... 3440c.html

Posted: November 23, 2005 8:58 am
by ToplessRideFL
How does Hot Stove relate to baseball? I really do not know..... :oops:

Posted: November 23, 2005 9:03 am
by aeroparrot
parrothead338 wrote:Mets get Delgado... sucks to be a Marlins fan.

I also love seeing all the big trades happening with the Yanks 2 biggest rivals. I wonder when George will make his big move...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story ... 3440c.html
I think so far the biggest deal the Yankees made is signing Matsui, I think is a good thing for them. I think they signed someone to replace Bernie.

Posted: November 23, 2005 9:06 am
by aeroparrot
ToplessRideFL wrote:How does Hot Stove relate to baseball? I really do not know..... :oops:
I think it has to do that most teams back when baseball started were in the northern climes. (I don't think there were any teams south of DC)

Posted: November 23, 2005 10:04 am
by CaptainP
parrothead338 wrote:Mets get Delgado... sucks to be a Marlins fan.

I also love seeing all the big trades happening with the Yanks 2 biggest rivals. I wonder when George will make his big move...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story ... 3440c.html
Not a done deal yet, but it looks likely.

Posted: November 23, 2005 10:07 am
by CaptainP
ToplessRideFL wrote:How does Hot Stove relate to baseball? I really do not know..... :oops:
Definitions:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_boar ... s/506.html

Essentially, in the old days, when Baseball was the dominant sport (primarily the Great Depression Era, also know as Larry's teenage years), the offseason was just as exciting as the regular season. People would gather around their Hot Stoves, listen to their radio for news of trades, etc., and discuss them.

Posted: November 23, 2005 10:09 am
by LIPH
Cubbie Bear wrote:I wanted to be Bif Pocaroba when I grew up
Not John Bocabella? :lol:

Posted: November 23, 2005 10:14 am
by CaptainP
According to David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez will NEVER play for Boston again. He cited personal and family reasons.

Mets, in addition to probably landing Carlos Delgado, are close to signing Billy Wagner.

Indians are wooing B.J. Ryan.

Dodgers are working on acquiring Juan Pierre from the Marlins....who are rapidly running out of players.

Posted: November 23, 2005 11:09 am
by prthd1958
I would LOVE to see Juan Pierre patroling centerfield for the Red Sox. As for giving up to much for Beckett, They managed not to trade their young lefthander Jon Lester. We have gone from a very old starting rotation to a young one if they manage to trade Wells to San Diego.

Posted: November 23, 2005 11:38 am
by SuperTrooper
CaptainP wrote:According to David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez will NEVER play for Boston again. He cited personal and family reasons.

Mets, in addition to probably landing Carlos Delgado, are close to signing Billy Wagner.

Indians are wooing B.J. Ryan.

Dodgers are working on acquiring Juan Pierre from the Marlins....who are rapidly running out of players.
Last winter Ortiz was quoted as saying that Pedro would never be a Met. :roll: I just wish he would stay out of it. The Sox aren't going to give Manny away, and they've said they WON'T pay a part of his salary to another team. If Manny stays home they'll have more money to pay others. I surprised Manny's agent hasn't tried to set up some kind of deal with teams Manny will go to.

Everybody is wooing Ryan.

Marlins are having another fire sale as they try to slash a $60 million payroll. Their lease expires (not including club options) after 2007, so they'll be gone by then (Las Vegas, baby!)