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On The Edge wrote:

Ilph wrote:I think to anyone who watches Fox News, it's hardly fair and balanced. I'm suprised a false advertising suit hasn't been started already by someone out there....

Against who, the liberal left media of NBC CBS CNN TBS ABC???? Fox is far more "fair and balanced" than any of the sources I just listed. Good God get a life. Our overwhelmingly liberal media is the root of everything that is wrong with our country.

Why do you have to ruin a good point with an insult? Can't you ever conduct a civil argument without ridicule?

People are missing the whole point of the article - it is about sexual harassment. Not how they report.

iuparrothead wrote:Why do you have to ruin a good point with an insult? Can't you ever conduct a civil argument without ridicule?

Cut him a break, Ann - he's still trying to master walking and chewing gum at the same time.

On The Edge wrote: Our overwhelmingly liberal media is the root of everything that is wrong with our country.

Care to explain?

captainjoe wrote:

On The Edge wrote: Our overwhelmingly liberal media is the root of everything that is wrong with our country.

Care to explain?

Who is going to help him with the big words?

rednekkPH wrote:

captainjoe wrote:

On The Edge wrote: Our overwhelmingly liberal media is the root of everything that is wrong with our country.

Care to explain?

Who is going to help him with the big words?

Webster's Dictionary perhaps?

I caught a really interesting thing on PBS the other night. It talked about the videos the White House supplies to networks to air as "News" which are actually conservative propaganda. It also gave the back-story behind why a particular PBS children's show episode was pulled because it implied a homosexual lifestyle which directly conflicted with the marriage legislation that GWB is a huge supporter of. Evidently it's ok to portray Mormon lifestyles and Jewish lifestyles and Muslim lifestyles...but not homosexual ones. Something to do with funding and the US Department of Education. I wish I could remember more of it, because it was really, really interesting and talked about exactly the issue of the spin media gives to content.

I hardly think the media is that liberal, but is more of an excuse conservatives have used because being conservative is not nearly as exciting as it is to be liberal. (that's a joke, not a dig).

captainjoe wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

captainjoe wrote:

On The Edge wrote: Our overwhelmingly liberal media is the root of everything that is wrong with our country.

Care to explain?

Who is going to help him with the big words?

Webster's Dictionary perhaps?

To use a dictionary you need to at least know what letter the word begins with. I don't think our friend posesses this skill.

buffettbride wrote:I caught a really interesting thing on PBS the other night. It talked about the videos the White House supplies to networks to air as "News" which are actually conservative propaganda. It also gave the back-story behind why a particular PBS children's show episode was pulled because it implied a homosexual lifestyle which directly conflicted with the marriage legislation that GWB is a huge supporter of. Evidently it's ok to portray Mormon lifestyles and Jewish lifestyles and Muslim lifestyles...but not homosexual ones. Something to do with funding and the US Department of Education. I wish I could remember more of it, because it was really, really interesting and talked about exactly the issue of the spin media gives to content.

I hardly think the media is that liberal, but is more of an excuse conservatives have used because being conservative is not nearly as exciting as it is to be liberal. (that's a joke, not a dig).

One I HIGHLY DOUBT the Whitehouse would only release only NEGATIVE things about the War on terror or the War in Iraq/Afghanistan.
I also highly doubt that a vice President of ABC News would put his head on the chopping block ( let alone 3 other reporters from other companies/agencies) by stating they WERE NOT reporting the whole truth about the war(s).

Then again, I seriously doubt Walter Cronkite would fabricate such a story about his feelings and he worked in the news media for how long?
I will be more than happy to provide you with sources and articles about the above taking place.

Meanwhile PBS/NPR is well known for it's bias on reporting, "occaisionally" they will present something with a less than liberal/leftest view as they normally broadcast.

Sam wrote:

buffettbride wrote:I caught a really interesting thing on PBS the other night. It talked about the videos the White House supplies to networks to air as "News" which are actually conservative propaganda. It also gave the back-story behind why a particular PBS children's show episode was pulled because it implied a homosexual lifestyle which directly conflicted with the marriage legislation that GWB is a huge supporter of. Evidently it's ok to portray Mormon lifestyles and Jewish lifestyles and Muslim lifestyles...but not homosexual ones. Something to do with funding and the US Department of Education. I wish I could remember more of it, because it was really, really interesting and talked about exactly the issue of the spin media gives to content.

I hardly think the media is that liberal, but is more of an excuse conservatives have used because being conservative is not nearly as exciting as it is to be liberal. (that's a joke, not a dig).

One I HIGHLY DOUBT the Whitehouse would only release only NEGATIVE things about the War on terror or the War in Iraq/Afghanistan.
I also highly doubt that a vice President of ABC News would put his head on the chopping block ( let alone 3 other reporters from other companies/agencies) by stating they WERE NOT reporting the whole truth about the war(s).

Then again, I seriously doubt Walter Cronkite would fabricate such a story about his feelings and he worked in the news media for how long?
I will be more than happy to provide you with sources and articles about the above taking place.

Meanwhile PBS/NPR is well known for it's bias on reporting, "occaisionally" they will present something with a less than liberal/leftest view as they normally broadcast.

Like I said...I wish I could remember exactly what those "press releases" were referred to as during that special. The special didn't revolve around that issue, though, it was more regarding journalistic spins as a whole. It definitely had the PBS "tone" about it, but with good cause since the lead-off point was about a children's show that they weren't allowed to air.

I think there's a huge difference, though, between journalistic integrity (for a single reporter) and the ratings game all the news stations play. Yes. Even FOX. To NOT sensationalize the news does not get viewers. I see sensationalizing the news and giving it a liberal spin as completely separate things.

Let's take a look at the "liberal" media and who owns it.

ABC is owned by Disney, hardly a company that can be called liberal.
CBS is owned by Westinghouse, yet another hotbed of liberalism.
NBC is owned by GE, truly a conservative company.
FOX is owned by News Corp which belongs to Rubert Murdoch a well known liberal, NOT!

PBS tends to report news in a manner that when compared to the 4 listed above would seem liberal since they do question the press releases that they are handed by the "source".

If you want liberal media, please look at Pacifica Network or some of the truly liberal media outlets.

Since George W. Bush became President there has been a decided lurk to the right in reporting stories about the government and most have been favorable in the reporting of the news about the government's policies. According to several studies 75 to 80% of the stories run were in favor of the war. Of the remain 20 to 25% they were either stories that were neutral or run to balance a differing viewpoint.

As for what BuffettBride brought up, it was a finding by the GAO that the White House has been illegally spreading propaganda by turning out "video news releases" and giving them to the US media as news. It is legal for the White House to give them out to foreign media sources but it is illegal to do the same within the USA.

Now to the original post of the thread, it will be very interesting to see how this shakes out. Will it be a case of she said, he said or is there something more substantial? The fact that it has made it to the state generally indicates that there is at least enough that it warrants a closer look.

I have been on the receiving end of harrassment and been accused of being a harasser and the truth of the matter is neither is fun. When I was accused of harassing a co-worker I was terminated immediately, even before I was allowed to say anything in my own defense. I was told that the company had a zero tolerance policy and an accusation was enough. When I was harassed by my supervisor at a different company, I filed a complaint and went through hearings, etc. and ultimately my supervisor was terminated.

I would have to say that I wasn't being too PC when I filed my complaint, I was being threatened with the loss of my job if I wouldn't go out with my supervisor.

I do believe that companies that fire an employee based on an accusation and no hearings are doing themselves a real disservice because they may be getting stuck with a very dishonest person.

What is PC to one person may seem to be overly sensitive to another however a good rule of thumb is to remember to use good manners and avoid most of these issues.

The Lost Manatee wrote:Let's take a look at the "liberal" media and who owns it.

ABC is owned by Disney, hardly a company that can be called liberal.
CBS is owned by Westinghouse, yet another hotbed of liberalism.
NBC is owned by GE, truly a conservative company.
FOX is owned by News Corp which belongs to Rubert Murdoch a well known liberal, NOT!

PBS tends to report news in a manner that when compared to the 4 listed above would seem liberal since they do question the press releases that they are handed by the "source".

If you want liberal media, please look at Pacifica Network or some of the truly liberal media outlets.

Since George W. Bush became President there has been a decided lurk to the right in reporting stories about the government and most have been favorable in the reporting of the news about the government's policies. According to several studies 75 to 80% of the stories run were in favor of the war. Of the remain 20 to 25% they were either stories that were neutral or run to balance a differing viewpoint.

As for what BuffettBride brought up, it was a finding by the GAO that the White House has been illegally spreading propaganda by turning out "video news releases" and giving them to the US media as news. It is legal for the White House to give them out to foreign media sources but it is illegal to do the same within the USA.

Now to the original post of the thread, it will be very interesting to see how this shakes out. Will it be a case of she said, he said or is there something more substantial? The fact that it has made it to the state generally indicates that there is at least enough that it warrants a closer look.

I have been on the receiving end of harrassment and been accused of being a harasser and the truth of the matter is neither is fun. When I was accused of harassing a co-worker I was terminated immediately, even before I was allowed to say anything in my own defense. I was told that the company had a zero tolerance policy and an accusation was enough. When I was harassed by my supervisor at a different company, I filed a complaint and went through hearings, etc. and ultimately my supervisor was terminated.

I would have to say that I wasn't being too PC when I filed my complaint, I was being threatened with the loss of my job if I wouldn't go out with my supervisor.

I do believe that companies that fire an employee based on an accusation and no hearings are doing themselves a real disservice because they may be getting stuck with a very dishonest person.

What is PC to one person may seem to be overly sensitive to another however a good rule of thumb is to remember to use good manners and avoid most of these issues.

Nope I don't believe the so called propaganda alledgedly put out by the Whitehouse would be negative against the war... just where and WHEN have you seen such stories and please provide documentation.
You are free to believe as you choose as to the media bias or anything else.
I will tell you this, having been in the military and living in a military community and seen articles done on various things the press did, did not do the military very many favors, or help or project a positive attitude to anyone about what we did or had to do. At least while I was active.

Think as you will, it is a FREE COUNTRY, but someone has to pay for the "FREE" in FREEDOM...and it certainly is not the press/media.

As for Political Correctness .....go visit the site I posted above about tonguetied.us . tell me what if I am offended by their changing me saying "Merry Christmas" or calling a student a "Freshman" or any of the numnerous BS they come up with.
Apparently it ok for them to offend other people and to shame and cause fear in other people?

I am in America, is there something wrong for me to ask for someone that can speak the language, so I can understand them? I have spoken to people in manyother countries that speak clear and are understandable.

I do think it is great that people want and do come here and do their best to succeed.

My ancestors came from France and from Ireland.. They did not make it and survive by only speaking their native tongue....

Sam wrote: I am in America, is there something wrong for me to ask for someone that can speak the language, so I can understand them? I have spoken to people in manyother countries that speak clear and are understandable.

I do think it is great that people want and do come here and do their best to succeed.

My ancestors came from France and from Ireland.. They did not make it and survive by only speaking their native tongue....

Where did this part come from?

Sam wrote:

The Lost Manatee wrote:Let's take a look at the "liberal" media and who owns it.

ABC is owned by Disney, hardly a company that can be called liberal.
CBS is owned by Westinghouse, yet another hotbed of liberalism.
NBC is owned by GE, truly a conservative company.
FOX is owned by News Corp which belongs to Rubert Murdoch a well known liberal, NOT!

PBS tends to report news in a manner that when compared to the 4 listed above would seem liberal since they do question the press releases that they are handed by the "source".

If you want liberal media, please look at Pacifica Network or some of the truly liberal media outlets.

Since George W. Bush became President there has been a decided lurk to the right in reporting stories about the government and most have been favorable in the reporting of the news about the government's policies. According to several studies 75 to 80% of the stories run were in favor of the war. Of the remain 20 to 25% they were either stories that were neutral or run to balance a differing viewpoint.

As for what BuffettBride brought up, it was a finding by the GAO that the White House has been illegally spreading propaganda by turning out "video news releases" and giving them to the US media as news. It is legal for the White House to give them out to foreign media sources but it is illegal to do the same within the USA.

Now to the original post of the thread, it will be very interesting to see how this shakes out. Will it be a case of she said, he said or is there something more substantial? The fact that it has made it to the state generally indicates that there is at least enough that it warrants a closer look.

I have been on the receiving end of harrassment and been accused of being a harasser and the truth of the matter is neither is fun. When I was accused of harassing a co-worker I was terminated immediately, even before I was allowed to say anything in my own defense. I was told that the company had a zero tolerance policy and an accusation was enough. When I was harassed by my supervisor at a different company, I filed a complaint and went through hearings, etc. and ultimately my supervisor was terminated.

I would have to say that I wasn't being too PC when I filed my complaint, I was being threatened with the loss of my job if I wouldn't go out with my supervisor.

I do believe that companies that fire an employee based on an accusation and no hearings are doing themselves a real disservice because they may be getting stuck with a very dishonest person.

What is PC to one person may seem to be overly sensitive to another however a good rule of thumb is to remember to use good manners and avoid most of these issues.

Nope I don't believe the so called propaganda alledgedly put out by the Whitehouse would be negative against the war... just where and WHEN have you seen such stories and please provide documentation.
You are free to believe as you choose as to the media bias or anything else.
I will tell you this, having been in the military and living in a military community and seen articles done on various things the press did, did not do the military very many favors, or help or project a positive attitude to anyone about what we did or had to do. At least while I was active.

Think as you will, it is a FREE COUNTRY, but someone has to pay for the "FREE" in FREEDOM...and it certainly is not the press/media.

As for Political Correctness .....go visit the site I posted above about tonguetied.us . tell me what if I am offended by their changing me saying "Merry Christmas" or calling a student a "Freshman" or any of the numnerous BS they come up with.
Apparently it ok for them to offend other people and to shame and cause fear in other people?

I am in America, is there something wrong for me to ask for someone that can speak the language, so I can understand them? I have spoken to people in manyother countries that speak clear and are understandable.

I do think it is great that people want and do come here and do their best to succeed.

My ancestors came from France and from Ireland.. They did not make it and survive by only speaking their native tongue....

ok I'm just following this - I don't want in it however I think the documentation you have requested was discussed. Just pointing that out here..........

http://www.newshounds.us/

They watch Fox News so we don't have to.

Wino you know wrote:

On The Edge wrote:Our overwhelmingly liberal media is the root of everything that is wrong with our country.

ARYAN BROTHER!

fun with editing!!

Another fun Fox News site:


http://www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com/

Sam wrote:

The Lost Manatee wrote:Let's take a look at the "liberal" media and who owns it.

ABC is owned by Disney, hardly a company that can be called liberal.
CBS is owned by Westinghouse, yet another hotbed of liberalism.
NBC is owned by GE, truly a conservative company.
FOX is owned by News Corp which belongs to Rubert Murdoch a well known liberal, NOT!

PBS tends to report news in a manner that when compared to the 4 listed above would seem liberal since they do question the press releases that they are handed by the "source".

If you want liberal media, please look at Pacifica Network or some of the truly liberal media outlets.

Since George W. Bush became President there has been a decided lurk to the right in reporting stories about the government and most have been favorable in the reporting of the news about the government's policies. According to several studies 75 to 80% of the stories run were in favor of the war. Of the remain 20 to 25% they were either stories that were neutral or run to balance a differing viewpoint.

As for what BuffettBride brought up, it was a finding by the GAO that the White House has been illegally spreading propaganda by turning out "video news releases" and giving them to the US media as news. It is legal for the White House to give them out to foreign media sources but it is illegal to do the same within the USA.

Now to the original post of the thread, it will be very interesting to see how this shakes out. Will it be a case of she said, he said or is there something more substantial? The fact that it has made it to the state generally indicates that there is at least enough that it warrants a closer look.

I have been on the receiving end of harrassment and been accused of being a harasser and the truth of the matter is neither is fun. When I was accused of harassing a co-worker I was terminated immediately, even before I was allowed to say anything in my own defense. I was told that the company had a zero tolerance policy and an accusation was enough. When I was harassed by my supervisor at a different company, I filed a complaint and went through hearings, etc. and ultimately my supervisor was terminated.

I would have to say that I wasn't being too PC when I filed my complaint, I was being threatened with the loss of my job if I wouldn't go out with my supervisor.

I do believe that companies that fire an employee based on an accusation and no hearings are doing themselves a real disservice because they may be getting stuck with a very dishonest person.

What is PC to one person may seem to be overly sensitive to another however a good rule of thumb is to remember to use good manners and avoid most of these issues.

Nope I don't believe the so called propaganda alledgedly put out by the Whitehouse would be negative against the war... just where and WHEN have you seen such stories and please provide documentation.
You are free to believe as you choose as to the media bias or anything else.
I will tell you this, having been in the military and living in a military community and seen articles done on various things the press did, did not do the military very many favors, or help or project a positive attitude to anyone about what we did or had to do. At least while I was active.

Think as you will, it is a FREE COUNTRY, but someone has to pay for the "FREE" in FREEDOM...and it certainly is not the press/media.

As for Political Correctness .....go visit the site I posted above about tonguetied.us . tell me what if I am offended by their changing me saying "Merry Christmas" or calling a student a "Freshman" or any of the numnerous BS they come up with.
Apparently it ok for them to offend other people and to shame and cause fear in other people?

I am in America, is there something wrong for me to ask for someone that can speak the language, so I can understand them? I have spoken to people in manyother countries that speak clear and are understandable.

I do think it is great that people want and do come here and do their best to succeed.

My ancestors came from France and from Ireland.. They did not make it and survive by only speaking their native tongue....

As for the illegal video ruling by the GAO you can read various articles about ranging in publications such as USToday, Cox News Service, etc. Here is one of many links for it: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0315-05.htm Note that this is a story provided by Cox News Service which is by all accounts a very conservative media outlet.
Here is another article detailing it: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... ouse_x.htm
Please note this is the Garnett flagship paper and about as mainstream as it comes.

I applaud you for your service and I thank you for it as well. I too served and agree that Freedom isn't Free however the threats to our freedoms aren't just foreign nor are they always clearly visible threats. We must maintain our vigilance.

I believe my point about PC is that it wouldn't be necessary if people used good manners.

Sam wrote:YEAH!!! What they said!!!
Political Correctness is insanity. Lok at George Orwell's 1984. The Nazi or Stalin versions of Political Correctness,etc.
Here is link that is either saddening or hilarious on some political correctness that goes on everyday. It is frequently updated. http://www.tonguetied.us/

Not telling people "Merry Christmas" or being able to call Christmas Christmas? Sheesh!!!

As for reporting, none of them are telling or allowed to tell us thy truth.The news is marketed, targeted,commercialized,packaged and deliver/served up to us.
One may well slam Fox if one so chooses, but generally the same people that do, fail to slam ABC,CBS,CNN,CBS,NBC,MSNBC, etc.
Fox may not be as fair and balllanced as they would like people to believe, HOWEVER, generally they are more fair and balanced, than the rest of the MSM.
Excellent case in point 3 different reporters,one from Fox, one from Newsweek, and I forget where the third was from) and a vice president from ABC news came forward and told us they were not teling us the truth about the war in Iraq and were not showing us any of the positive things that had happened and taken place. This was a couple of years ago or so. The mainstream media (MSM for short) clearly can alter the public's perception.
Even Walter Cronkite came forward and admitted that there was liberal bias in the news and that the vast majority of the reporters today were liberal. He said most of the professors teaching them were liberal had something to do with it as well. ( if you disagree with it, take that up with Walter)

Sam, if you want to start a thread about bias in the media, go right on and do it. But this thread is about sexual harassment. Please try to keep up.

Thank you!

The Lost Manatee wrote: As for the illegal video ruling by the GAO you can read various articles about ranging in publications such as USToday, Cox News Service, etc. Here is one of many links for it: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0315-05.htm Note that this is a story provided by Cox News Service which is by all accounts a very conservative media outlet.
Here is another article detailing it: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... ouse_x.htm
Please note this is the Garnett flagship paper and about as mainstream as it comes.

I applaud you for your service and I thank you for it as well. I too served and agree that Freedom isn't Free however the threats to our freedoms aren't just foreign nor are they always clearly visible threats. We must maintain our vigilance.

I believe my point about PC is that it wouldn't be necessary if people used good manners.

Welcome Home Bro!!! You have my thanks and respect for your service as well!!! Perhaps we can share an adult beverage or two or more and maybe burn something on the grill? You have an open invitation to come on down or up! Whatever the case may be! Thank you for the links! To be honest, I have not seen any of them but that means nothing.

Do you remember the Oath we took? About "..enemies foreign and domestic..."? I agree not all enemies are Foreign...I do feel Political Correctness is a most evil thing.
It is not about manners or being polite, It is about not letting one say what one feels in many ways, and being condemned for saying/expressing there views. Right/wrong/indifferent.....your views,someone else's views, my views, are being rewritten. Thinlk of how much paper alone has been wasted because the forms were not "politically correct".
We have many other things to be concerned about, than "what do we call someone that claims to be "transgender" or the name of a football or baseball team, or that freshman MIGHT find an insult for being referred to as such, for examples. There are endless many more examples.
If we were all polite then no one would take offense at someone saying "Merry Christmas" nor would some schools do their best to elinate the term "Christmas Holidays". One would realize no offense was meant and a person was simply following the traditional Holiday greetings.

These are only a few examples as I am sure you are well aware of.