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tequilatom wrote:For a team that is usually fundamentally sound..........that was ugly............they score that touchdown that Champ returned .......i think the Pats win........Denver really didn't move the ball...........bottom line 2 many turnovers.....and a few of them weren't even forced....just poor mental mistakes. But congrats to Denver.


To add.....that was not a pass interference on Samuals........if anything the reciever pushed off........a terrible call.

I couldn't agree more. When you don't show up to play, this is what happens.
(or it could be that special mug that Phaw bought E and all that damn beer he drank)
That being said, I am proud of the players.
I would have NEVER thought they would have made the playoffs this year with all the changes and injuries they endured.

All I can do is hope that the Steelers show up and take Indy out.

Please, anyone, but Indy.

Congrats, Denver! If my team couldn't win, I'm at least glad that "yours" did.

BahamaBreeze wrote:(or it could be that special mug that Phaw bought E and all that damn beer he drank)

Just tryin' to do my part.

Woo Hoo... another week of John Lynch!

ToplessRideFL wrote:Woo Hoo... another week of John Lynch!

I knew you'd like that.

ok . .let's see . .

we lost Lynch to the Broncos . . Dungy to the Colts . .

I only hope I'm not seeing Alstott wearing different colors next year . .



. .congrats on the win , Ethel . . ! !

now . . when do they play the Bucs . . I forget . . . ? ?

balcony girls wrote: . .congrats on the win , Ethel . . ! !
now . . when do they play the Bucs . . I forget . . . ? ?

June 31st, I think. And thanks, Ethel!

SMLCHNG wrote: June 31st, I think. And thanks, Ethel!

aaahhh . .that's right . .

tequilatom wrote:To add.....that was not a pass interference on Samuals........if anything the reciever pushed off........a terrible call.

IMHO, they were both pushing off of each other a bit.. the flag was thrown right at the time when Samuals took his eyes off the ball.

I love the way NE fans are spinning this game.

1. The Patriots beat themselves. - Great teams don't beat themselves. And when I was watching the game there were always 2 teams on the field. They didn't beat themselves, the Broncos beat them.

2. Brady threw for 350 yards. - You don't get style points for piling up yardage, you still have to score to win the game. Denver's defense bent, but it never broke. When they had to make a play, they made it. When NE had to make a play, they didn't.

3. The Patriots gave the ball away. - I didn't see them just hand the ball over, it looked to me like Denver caused the turnovers and then took advantage of them.

BTW, didn't Plummer throw an interception? Didn't Denver lose a fumble? The Patriots had chances to capitalize on turnovers too. Denver was the better team last night and deserved to win.

LIPH wrote: Denver was the better team last night and deserved to win.

THANK YOU LARRY!!!

It was a very tough defensive game. The Broncos capitalized when they needed to and the Pats didn't.

Next week will be tough for the Broncos no matter who they play, but they are for the most part healthy and fired up to win.

SMLCHNG wrote:

tequilatom wrote:To add.....that was not a pass interference on Samuals........if anything the reciever pushed off........a terrible call.

IMHO, they were both pushing off of each other a bit.. the flag was thrown right at the time when Samuals took his eyes off the ball.

But Samuels beat the reciever to the spot......and at that moment had every right to the ball... thats when the reciever pushed off and initiated contact........at best it should of been a no call.and also i don't think the ball was catchable

tequilatom wrote:at best it should of been a no call.and also i don't think the ball was catchable

AGREED!!

And thank you, Larry.

LIPH wrote:I love the way NE fans are spinning this game.

1. The Patriots beat themselves. - Great teams don't beat themselves. And when I was watching the game there were always 2 teams on the field. They didn't beat themselves, the Broncos beat them.

2. Brady threw for 350 yards. - You don't get style points for piling up yardage, you still have to score to win the game. Denver's defense bent, but it never broke. When they had to make a play, they made it. When NE had to make a play, they didn't.

3. The Patriots gave the ball away. - I didn't see them just hand the ball over, it looked to me like Denver caused the turnovers and then took advantage of them.

BTW, didn't Plummer throw an interception? Didn't Denver lose a fumble? The Patriots had chances to capitalize on turnovers too. Denver was the better team last night and deserved to win.

Larry for the record i'm a Dolphins fan.........so i'm not spinning anything.......your right mistakes did cost them the game......the pass interference call also contributed on how the game changed.......i wanted the Pats because i wanted to see someone try and win 3 in a row.......which with Salary caps will probably never happen!!........i always liked the Broncos going back to the Orange Crush days.Except when they are playing Miami , Giants or Packers and maybe a couple of other teams.

LIPH wrote:I love the way NE fans are spinning this game.

1. The Patriots beat themselves. - Great teams don't beat themselves. And when I was watching the game there were always 2 teams on the field. They didn't beat themselves, the Broncos beat them.

2. Brady threw for 350 yards. - You don't get style points for piling up yardage, you still have to score to win the game. Denver's defense bent, but it never broke. When they had to make a play, they made it. When NE had to make a play, they didn't.

3. The Patriots gave the ball away. - I didn't see them just hand the ball over, it looked to me like Denver caused the turnovers and then took advantage of them.

BTW, didn't Plummer throw an interception? Didn't Denver lose a fumble? The Patriots had chances to capitalize on turnovers too. Denver was the better team last night and deserved to win.

I don't think anyone is doubting Denver was the better team last night.

And I am not sure what game you watched but Denver did not lose a fumble!

balcony girls wrote:ok . .let's see . .

we lost Lynch to the Broncos . . Dungy to the Colts . .

I only hope I'm not seeing Alstott wearing different colors next year . .



. .congrats on the win , Ethel . . ! !

now . . when do they play the Bucs . . I forget . . . ? ?

Alstott-- Need to come back home to Chicago ( He's from Joliet ( yes same town the prison from Blues Brothers was in) and He also went to the same High School as Rudy ( JCA-Joliet Catholic Academy)

Is it just me or does Gene seem a little bitter about this Pat's loss? Either way it's pretty funny!

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... id=2292944

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<i>Updated: Jan. 15, 2006, 2:38 AM ET</i>

<font size=5><b>Broncos won't reach Detroit playing like that</font></b><br><br>By Gene Wojciechowski
ESPN.com
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DENVER -- There's just no nice way to put this.

I have a better chance of slipping the Lombardi Trophy some post-Super Bowl tongue than the Denver Broncos do this year. That's because neither of us are going to be playing in The XL at Ford Field come Feb. 5. And if the Broncos do make it to Detroit, I'll pay the barbershop tab for Jake Plummer to shave the worst beard this side of an Amish barn raising.

It's nothing personal, but if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers or the Indianapolis Colts -- especially the Colts, who keep the home-field advantage if they hold the Bus to low mileage Sunday -- I start clearing out space in my locker for one of those AFC Champion T-shirts. No way do the Broncos beat either of those teams.

I know, they beat the New England Patriots Saturday night at home. Stuck a salad fork in the dynasty. Deep-sixed the Pats' 10-0 postseason run. Penetrated Tom Brady's five layers of Visa protection. I'm so impressed I think they'll only lose to Indy by two TDs, and to the Steelers by one.

It isn't personal, just bidness. To the Broncos, congratulations for winning your first playoff game since John Elway's final season in 1998. Now pick up your AFC parting gift and enjoy your offseason, which officially begins next Sunday evening.

Elway was here for the 27-13 victory. The guy still owns this town. He has his own restaurant, and his name graces about every car dealership within a 30-mile radius. And you should have seen Broncos fans as he walked with family and friends through the Invesco Field parking lot to the stadium suite entrance. Jaws will have to be surgically re-attached.

But Elway knows how fortunate the Broncos were to win this one. After all, when's the last time you saw the Patriots, winners of three of the last four Super Bowls, make more mistakes than Bill Belichick has hooded sweatshirts?

Champ Bailey's end-zone interception and long return turned the game to Denver.Brady was 20 of 36 for 341 yards -- 22 of 36 if you count the two interceptions he threw, including one which Broncos coach Mike Shanahan called "the turning point of the game." That would be Champ Bailey's 100-yard pick-off return late in the third quarter on a third-down play from the Denver 5. What could have been a 13-10 New England lead suddenly became a 17-6 Broncos lead, courtesy of Bailey's interception, followed moments later by Mike Anderson's 1-yard scoring run.

But the Broncos didn't win this game just because Brady scuffled at times. They won it because the Patriots lost three fumbles, had those two interceptions, missed a field goal, committed eight penalties, rushed for a grand total of 79 yards and set a New England record for Most Sideline Meltdowns (Patriots linebacker Willie McGinest is our new leader). And when exactly is the last time you saw a kicker -- a kicker! -- force a fumble on a return?

"I don't think I've ever seen it," said Plummer of Todd Sauerbrun's hit on Ellis Hobbs late in the second quarter.

I'm not saying the Broncos didn't take advantage of the Patriot screw-ups. They did. Twenty-four of their 27 points came after New England turnovers. But it's not like the Broncos had to go far for those points.

First touchdown drive: One play, one yard.

First field goal drive: Four plays, seven yards.

Second touchdown drive: One play, one yard.

Third touchdown drive: Three plays, 15 yards.

That's 17 total yards for 21 points. Donovan McNabb and the Campbell's Soup flag-football team could win games with that sort of field position.

"We knew it was going to be ugly," said Broncos wide receiver Ashley Lelie.

This was double-bagger ugly. After all, since when do the Patriots resemble the Houston Texans at times?

"We got the win, that's all that matters," said Plummer.

That's sort of true. Criticizing a team after it reaches the AFC championship is like ripping Angelina Jolie for wearing too much lip gloss. But I can't help it. If the Broncos think they can play like this and beat the Colts in Indy, or even the Steelers at Mile High, then they're suffering from oxygen deprivation.

Of course, there were hugs and handshakes after the win. Broncos defensive tackle Gerard Warren kept saying he'd go "any place, anywhere, anytime" for the AFC championship.

"We're trying to go to a Super Bowl," he said. "We're one step closer now."

A baby step closer, that's it.

As Plummer jogged off the field and toward the stadium tunnel, he stopped just long enough to hand the game ball to a 10-year-old boy leaning against the railing. His name was Jack Dunnigan, and for several minutes he was so stunned by the gesture that he couldn't speak.

Memo to Jack: Hold onto that ball. It will be the last one Plummer hands out this season.

<i>Gene Wojciechowski is the senior national columnist for ESPN.com. You can contact him at gene.wojciechowski@espn3.com</i>

Wow. New Englanders sure are bitter people. I'm glad I'm not one of them.

buffettbride wrote:Wow. New Englanders sure are bitter people. I'm glad I'm not one of them.

The guy who wrote that article Gene Wojciechowski I think is from Denver.

That guy will likely be eating his words one week from now.
After taking 3 of the last 4 Super Bowls, you'd think their press corps could bow out with, maybe, just an ounce of class?