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Indiana Jolly Mon wrote:Dennis Miller once said 'if you are young and republican you dont have a heart, and if you are older and a democrat, you dont have a real job'. I laughed because no one is right in politics or religion, there is no "answer" either way. I am republican on economic views and democrat on rights and environmental issues, I guess that makes me either Independant or confused
I am glad Jimmy doesnt give his opinions, whether I agree or not with them. However the money that goes to SFC and other charities he supports causes that any side can believe in.
The only real truth is that Alpine is the best venue and tailgating (and now I will duck and get out of the way)

uh-oh....... politics, religion, and "the best venue" all in one post....

TO THE FALLOUT SHELTERS.... THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO END....

Sorry, forgot to throw in something about sex too!

Indiana Jolly Mon wrote:Sorry, forgot to throw in something about sex too!

No, you mentioned religion. They go hand in hand...if you're a catholic altar boy, anyway.

Democrats are either Philanthropists or Broke!
Republicans are everyone else inbetween!

Jahfin wrote:I'd love for Buffett to start being more vocal about his political leanings at his concerts. He's got a large audience he could reach by doing so. Perhaps a Buffett/Dylan/Steve Earle triple bill is in the offing for the next U.S. election.

I think he's smart enough not to do this. Not everyone in the audience shares the same political views and I doubt he'd do anything to alienate any of the fan base.

If he wants to start doing political rallies, that's fine. People can choose to go, or not go, based on how they feel about the candidate or cause the rally is supporting. But as part of a regular concert tour, I think it's a bad idea. But that's just my opinion. To borrow one of your lines, your mileage may vary.

LIPH wrote:

Jahfin wrote:I'd love for Buffett to start being more vocal about his political leanings at his concerts. He's got a large audience he could reach by doing so. Perhaps a Buffett/Dylan/Steve Earle triple bill is in the offing for the next U.S. election.

LIPH wrote:I think he's smart enough not to do this. Not everyone in the audience shares the same political views and I doubt he'd do anything to alienate any of the fan base.

Plenty of musical performers have been doing this for years and I have never noticed any alienation amongst the fans. I've attended concerts by outspoken artists from both ends of the political spectrum but when I enter the voting booth I vote with my own conscience, not theirs. I imagine most other music fans do the same thing.

Many moons ago in college at Indiana University, Midnight Oil played a concert. In between every song the singer went on about how horrible Bush Sr. was and what a moron Quayle was. Most of the crowd cheered at first and agreed, but after a while people started leaving in droves because they came to hear music, not rants. I agree with LIPH, Jimmy is too smart for that and frankly goes against the good time escapism image he has worked so hard to create.

Indiana Jolly Mon wrote:Many moons ago in college at Indiana University, Midnight Oil played a concert. In between every song the singer went on about how horrible Bush Sr. was and what a moron Quayle was. Most of the crowd cheered at first and agreed, but after a while people started leaving in droves because they came to hear music, not rants. I agree with LIPH, Jimmy is too smart for that and frankly goes against the good time escapism image he has worked so hard to create.

In that instance, I'd say if they went to a Midnight Oil concert and didn't know what they were getting into they probably weren't Midnight Oil fans to start with. Bob Marley (and many, many others) preached from the stage, not only about politics but religion both in song and in speech but I don't recall him ever turning fans away in droves. That's because they knew who he was and what he stood for spiritually and politically.

Buffett's stage persona is the polar opposite of Midnight Oil and Bob Marley. If he started doing that at this stage of his career I think it would turn a lot of fans off. Midnight Oil, Marley and a long list of other performers have always been political. Buffett hasn't, at least not when he's in performance mode.

LIPH wrote:Buffett's stage persona is the polar opposite of Midnight Oil and Bob Marley. If he started doing that at this stage of his career I think it would turn a lot of fans off. Midnight Oil, Marley and a long list of other performers have always been political. Buffett hasn't, at least not when he's in performance mode.

I agree but I wasn't really referring to Buffett in that instance but the people that were apparently turned off to the politics at a Midnight Oil show.

I hear ya. Anyone who goes to a Midnight Oil concert and is turned off by political rants must have been living in a cave for 20 years.

LIPH wrote:I hear ya. Anyone who goes to a Midnight Oil concert and is turned off by political rants must have been living in a cave for 20 years.

Yeah, you'd think the music would be enough to send folks screaming.

SamJustaFan will be here any moment now. LOL I know LIPH remembers him.

Ok, let me clarify the Midnight Oil show since you guys werent there. A three minute song, five minutes of talk, a four minute song, five minutes of talk. Everyone expected some political talk and most there knew their views, but to only hear 5 or 6 songs in the first hour in between being blamed for Dan Quayle because he was from Indiana was WAY too much. Even the student paper which was so far left you had to read it backwards blasted the ratio of talk/music. And to mention them and Marley in the same text is a bit much. Human rights vs. calling people in Indiana stupid for creating Dan Quayle are a wee bit different.
And when they did play music, wow did they s*** as a live band.

Indiana Jolly Mon wrote:Ok, let me clarify the Midnight Oil show since you guys werent there. A three minute song, five minutes of talk, a four minute song, five minutes of talk. Everyone expected some political talk and most there knew their views, but to only hear 5 or 6 songs in the first hour in between being blamed for Dan Quayle because he was from Indiana was WAY too much. Even the student paper which was so far left you had to read it backwards blasted the ratio of talk/music. And to mention them and Marley in the same text is a bit much. Human rights vs. calling people in Indiana stupid for creating Dan Quayle are a wee bit different.
And when they did play music, wow did they s*** as a live band.

I've seen Midnight Oil and while they're definitely a political band and some of that type of talk was made from the stage, not every show is the same.

LIPH wrote:Buffett's stage persona is the polar opposite of Midnight Oil and Bob Marley. If he started doing that at this stage of his career I think it would turn a lot of fans off. Midnight Oil, Marley and a long list of other performers have always been political. Buffett hasn't, at least not when he's in performance mode.

Also, in some of Buffett's interviews, he's very aware that what he sells to the masses is "escapism". Jimmy getting political during a performance would be similar to the New York Philharmonic or Chicago Symphony Orchestra going to hip-hop or heavy metal...it's just not what they do (or what their customers came for).

I wouldnt think that Jimmy would support Kinky Friedman by making speeches at his Texas concerts.../.........maybe a sentence or two, or by inviting Kinky to do a set with him....

His support seems much more likely to take the form of fund raising concerts , maybe even messages to parrotheads using his Margaritaville or Coconut Telegraph mailing lists...at least if I were running Kinky's campaign, thats what i would ask him for....

But enough politics...I quit that business years ago

"Politics is the SECOND oldest profession, and when I arrived in Washington, I noticed it has a very similar resemblence to the first."
THE HONORABLE RONALD WILSON REAGAN

Jahfin wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Jahfin wrote:I'd love for Buffett to start being more vocal about his political leanings at his concerts. He's got a large audience he could reach by doing so. Perhaps a Buffett/Dylan/Steve Earle triple bill is in the offing for the next U.S. election.

LIPH wrote:I think he's smart enough not to do this. Not everyone in the audience shares the same political views and I doubt he'd do anything to alienate any of the fan base.

Plenty of musical performers have been doing this for years and I have never noticed any alienation amongst the fans.I've attended concerts by outspoken artists from both ends of the political spectrum but when I enter the voting booth I vote with my own conscience, not theirs. I imagine most other music fans do the same thing.

I do not agree.. two words Jackson Browne

Wait two more Linda Ronstat..