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TommyBahama wrote:

Cubbie Bear wrote:Swami-Cubbie says..........

Mets win Tonight

Tigers Win Series

Dusty Faker to Oakland

Ken Macha to Washington

Joe Girardi to Joe Torre's bench (heir apparent)

Bob Brenley to SF

Mark Grace and/or Steve Stone back to Cubs booths

Kerry Wood resigns with Cubs @ minimum plus incentives, goes to pen

Mark Prior on DL

Macha to SD......Bochey to SF.........Girardi to Wash........

Bochey need permission to talk to teams. I doubt they'll give it in division.

Chicago papers say Joe is out of the running in Washington, Bowden and Beinfest are good friends

Cubbie Bear wrote:

TommyBahama wrote:

Cubbie Bear wrote:Swami-Cubbie says..........

Mets win Tonight

Tigers Win Series

Dusty Faker to Oakland

Ken Macha to Washington

Joe Girardi to Joe Torre's bench (heir apparent)

Bob Brenley to SF

Mark Grace and/or Steve Stone back to Cubs booths

Kerry Wood resigns with Cubs @ minimum plus incentives, goes to pen

Mark Prior on DL

Macha to SD......Bochey to SF.........Girardi to Wash........

Bochey need permission to talk to teams. I doubt they'll give it in division.

Chicago papers say Joe is out of the running in Washington, Bowden and Beinfest are good friends

I thought i heard somewhere he got the permission!!!

TommyBahama wrote:

Cubbie Bear wrote:

TommyBahama wrote:

Cubbie Bear wrote:Swami-Cubbie says..........

Mets win Tonight

Tigers Win Series

Dusty Faker to Oakland

Ken Macha to Washington

Joe Girardi to Joe Torre's bench (heir apparent)

Bob Brenley to SF

Mark Grace and/or Steve Stone back to Cubs booths

Kerry Wood resigns with Cubs @ minimum plus incentives, goes to pen

Mark Prior on DL

Macha to SD......Bochey to SF.........Girardi to Wash........

Bochey need permission to talk to teams. I doubt they'll give it in division.

Chicago papers say Joe is out of the running in Washington, Bowden and Beinfest are good friends

I thought i heard somewhere he got the permission!!!

Bochy did get permission from Sandy Alderson to talk to SF... and anyone else!
If that doesn't say "lame duck", I don't know what does?

I can't help but think that Washington wouldn't be a good fit for Boch.
He grew up going to Senators games

A very well played ballgame.

I'm sorry Mets fans.

And congrats Cardinals fans.

Amazing catch by Chavez!!

Can I help you Carlos Beltran?

"Nope, I am just looking"

SMLCHNG wrote:A very well played ballgame.

I'm sorry Mets fans.

And congrats Cardinals fans.

Amazing catch by Chavez!!

Thanks Penny!!!!..Congrats to the Cards..I thought that catch was going to be a momentum changer.........gotta hit in the clutch....2 & 3 1 out....even a sac fly gets the run in......I can't blame Beltran....he had a good series......my only thing is ....this guy was throwing nothing but curve balls......gotta be sitting on that pitch!!!!!.............and to have a guy that hit .216 and 5 hrs all season beat you........shouldn't happen!!!..........The big worry going into the playoffs was the lack of starting pitching......i thought they looked great........what we had was the lack of hitting!!!

god with the Dolphins already done .......its going to be a long winter........thank god foe UCONN basketball!!!!

done venting!!!!

So the Cardinals have the 5th best record in the N.L., and they'll be in the world series?
Pretty pathetic!

And who the hell ever HEARD of Yadier Molina?

GO TIGERS!!!

Sorry Larry, but at least I don't have to root against you this weekend/next week!

Wino you know wrote:So the Cardinals have the 5th best record in the N.L., and they'll be in the world series?
Pretty pathetic!

And who the hell ever HEARD of Yadier Molina?

GO TIGERS!!!

wWYKs!

How can they be so flat in the biggest game of the year? Two hits in the 1st inning and not another hit until the 9th. The whole team came up small, except Oliver Perez. He just earned himself a spot in the starting rotation next year.

In my opinion the Mets lost this series in the second game when the bullpen blew the lead and Wagner started throwing batting practice in the 9th inning. It would have been a different series if they had gone to St. Louis up 2-0 instead of tied 1-1. They held the Cardinals big guns - Pujols, Edmonds and Rolen - in check. You can't let guys like Scott Spezio, So Taguchi and Yadier Molina beat you.

Wino you know wrote:So the Cardinals have the 5th best record in the N.L., and they'll be in the world series?
Pretty pathetic!

And who the hell ever HEARD of Yadier Molina?

GO TIGERS!!!

any of the 3 million members of the Cardinal Nation and some of us who have been to a Cards game?

Wino you know wrote:So the Cardinals have the 5th best record in the N.L., and they'll be in the world series?
Pretty pathetic!

And who the hell ever HEARD of Yadier Molina?

GO TIGERS!!!

What do you expect from the NL, it's like AAAA ball. In the AL alone there were 8 teams with a better record that St. Louis.

The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....

BottleofRum wrote:The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....

6th inning, bases loaded, 1 out - Valentin, strike out, Chavez, pop up
9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs - Beltran, strike out
Reyes, 0-5
LoDuca, 0-4

Those guys were as much to blame for the loss as Heilman.

LIPH wrote:

BottleofRum wrote:The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....

6th inning, bases loaded, 1 out - Valentin, strike out, Chavez, pop up
9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs - Beltran, strike out
Reyes, 0-5
LoDuca, 0-4

Those guys were as much to blame for the loss as Heilman.

Sorry for your disappointment today, Larry

You just can't get to the dance without some timely, clutch hitting,
and, boy, in SD, don't I know it!

LIPH wrote:How can they be so flat in the biggest game of the year? Two hits in the 1st inning and not another hit until the 9th. The whole team came up small, except Oliver Perez. He just earned himself a spot in the starting rotation next year.

In my opinion the Mets lost this series in the second game when the bullpen blew the lead and Wagner started throwing batting practice in the 9th inning. It would have been a different series if they had gone to St. Louis up 2-0 instead of tied 1-1. They held the Cardinals big guns - Pujols, Edmonds and Rolen - in check. You can't let guys like Scott Spezio, So Taguchi and Yadier Molina beat you.

I'm not gonna vent, not gonna make excuses....Bottom line, Mets should of won the series. They didn't execute! They Lost..

Hopefully the future is bright for the Mets...And I think it is. Perez showed that he can be a Big League pitcher.

LIPH wrote:

BottleofRum wrote:The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....

6th inning, bases loaded, 1 out - Valentin, strike out, Chavez, pop up
9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs - Beltran, strike out
Reyes, 0-5
LoDuca, 0-4

Those guys were as much to blame for the loss as Heilman.

I agree. I don't think there will be a "goat" from this series.

I also think Randolph out thought himself in the 9th inning. Why not bring Wagner in to start the inning? Forget about saving the game, save the season. Then with 2 on and no outs in the bottom of the 9th why not send someone up to bunt? Put more pressure on Scott Rolon who was struggling the last 2 games. You get two runners in scoring position with a pitcher who throws so many breaking pitches maybe he will bounce on to the back stop.

BottleofRum wrote:Why not bring Wagner in to start the inning?

Wagner's ERA for the series was 16.88. Maybe Willie Randolph got chills down his spine at the thought of using him.

LIPH wrote:

BottleofRum wrote:Why not bring Wagner in to start the inning?

Wagner's ERA for the series was 16.88. Maybe Willie Randolph got chills down his spine at the thought of using him.

So if the Mets had a one run lead would have brought him in?

BottleofRum wrote:

LIPH wrote:

BottleofRum wrote:Why not bring Wagner in to start the inning?

Wagner's ERA for the series was 16.88. Maybe Willie Randolph got chills down his spine at the thought of using him.

So if the Mets had a one run lead would have brought him in?

He probably would have because that's what "the book" says you should do. I think he made the right call leaving Heilman in the game.