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Posted: **October 20, 2006 11:20 am**

LIPH wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....
6th inning, bases loaded, 1 out - Valentin, strike out, Chavez, pop up
9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs - Beltran, strike out
Reyes, 0-5
LoDuca, 0-4

Those guys were as much to blame for the loss as Heilman.

Man oh man, what a game.

6th inning was the turning point of the series, IMHO. Rolen gets robbed by a stunning defensive play, then throws a ball into the cheap seats.

Right then, the hopes of the entire Cardinals nation fell on Suppan. Talk about gutty. Just reached down deep and saved the season.

Wainwright also gave himself a (self-administered) gut-check in the 9th, but Suppan was still the man of the hour.

Great game... hope the WS isn't a letdown.

Go Cards!

Posted: **October 20, 2006 11:53 am**

Cubbie Bear wrote:Swami-Cubbie says..........

Mets win Tonight STRIKE ONE
Tigers Win Series

Dusty Faker to Oakland

Ken Macha to Washington

Joe Girardi to Joe Torre's bench (heir apparent)

Bob Brenley to SF

Mark Grace and/or Steve Stone back to Cubs booths

Kerry Wood resigns with Cubs @ minimum plus incentives, goes to pen

Mark Prior on DL

Posted: **October 20, 2006 2:10 pm**

Horsesh*t & radishes!
The Mets get beat.
Do they get beat by Derek Jeter? NO!
Do they get beat by Ryan Howard? NO!
Do they get beat by David Ortiz? NO!
Do they get beat by Kenny Rogers? NO!

THEY GET BEAT BY THE GREAT YADIER F'ING MOLINA!!!

Thank God for Pepto Bismol.

Posted: **October 20, 2006 3:01 pm**

Wino you know wrote:Horsesh*t & radishes!
The Mets get beat.
Do they get beat by Derek Jeter? NO!
Do they get beat by Ryan Howard? NO!
Do they get beat by David Ortiz? NO!
Do they get beat by Kenny Rogers? NO!

THEY GET BEAT BY THE GREAT YADIER F'ING MOLINA!!!

Thank God for Pepto Bismol.

hmmm.... sensing some underlying anger here. Everybody ok?

Breathe in, breathe out, move on (to the World Series... oh wait.)

(Sorry. That was mean. Go Cards!)

Posted: **October 20, 2006 3:07 pm**

krusin1 wrote:hmmm.... sensing some underlying anger here. Everybody ok?

Breathe in, breathe out, move on (to the World Series... oh wait.)

(Sorry. That was mean. Go Cards!)

It wasn't mean, but I'll never tease Red Sox fans about Bucky Dent or Aaron Boone ever again.

Posted: **October 20, 2006 3:48 pm**

Wino you know wrote:
krusin1 wrote:hmmm.... sensing some underlying anger here. Everybody ok?

Breathe in, breathe out, move on (to the World Series... oh wait.)

(Sorry. That was mean. Go Cards!)
It wasn't mean, but I'll never tease Red Sox fans about Bucky Dent or Aaron Boone ever again.

Know what you mean. As a Royals-first (then Cardinals) fan, I'm continually being reminded of Don Denkinger and 1985.

Ain't gonna say a mean thing about Bucky Dent, or Aaron Boone, or Joaquin Andujar, or Carlos Beltran, or anybody else.

'Tis not for me to throw stones when I'm still living in the 1985 World Series glass house.

Posted: **October 21, 2006 1:03 am**

BottleofRum wrote:
LIPH wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....
6th inning, bases loaded, 1 out - Valentin, strike out, Chavez, pop up
9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs - Beltran, strike out
Reyes, 0-5
LoDuca, 0-4

Those guys were as much to blame for the loss as Heilman.
I agree. I don't think there will be a "goat" from this series.

I also think Randolph out thought himself in the 9th inning. Why not bring Wagner in to start the inning? Forget about saving the game, save the season. Then with 2 on and no outs in the bottom of the 9th why not send someone up to bunt? Put more pressure on Scott Rolon who was struggling the last 2 games. You get two runners in scoring position with a pitcher who throws so many breaking pitches maybe he will bounce on to the back stop.

you can't bring wagner in in that situation....with the possibility of extra innings and his spot coming up in the bottom of the 9th....also you can't compare the 2 leagues ...one has the DH and the other playes the game iike it was intented to be........records would be a lot different in the AL without the DH......and managers would actually have to think!!!...not a fan of the DH if you couln't tell!!!

Posted: **October 21, 2006 1:27 am**

TommyBahama wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
LIPH wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....
6th inning, bases loaded, 1 out - Valentin, strike out, Chavez, pop up
9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs - Beltran, strike out
Reyes, 0-5
LoDuca, 0-4

Those guys were as much to blame for the loss as Heilman.
I agree. I don't think there will be a "goat" from this series.

I also think Randolph out thought himself in the 9th inning. Why not bring Wagner in to start the inning? Forget about saving the game, save the season. Then with 2 on and no outs in the bottom of the 9th why not send someone up to bunt? Put more pressure on Scott Rolon who was struggling the last 2 games. You get two runners in scoring position with a pitcher who throws so many breaking pitches maybe he will bounce on to the back stop.
you can't bring wagner in in that situation....with the possibility of extra innings and his spot coming up in the bottom of the 9th....also you can't compare the 2 leagues ...one has the DH and the other playes the game iike it was intented to be........records would be a lot different in the AL without the DH......and managers would actually have to think!!!...not a fan of the DH if you couln't tell!!!

I think you still bring Wagner in, he is their best reliever and you need the save the season. Worry about the bottom of the inning when it happens. It's game 7, every pitch is crucial and you should have you best out there at the end. As it turned out had they brought him in Wagner would have came up with 2 on and no one out, a perfect spot to bunt.

In interleague play the AL dominated the NL in both AL and NL ballparks. Including the every All Star game since ??? The last NL pitcher to WIN a World Series game?.....

Josh Beckett in 2003!

Posted: **October 21, 2006 6:25 am**

TommyBahama wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
LIPH wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....
6th inning, bases loaded, 1 out - Valentin, strike out, Chavez, pop up
9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs - Beltran, strike out
Reyes, 0-5
LoDuca, 0-4

Those guys were as much to blame for the loss as Heilman.
I agree. I don't think there will be a "goat" from this series.

I also think Randolph out thought himself in the 9th inning. Why not bring Wagner in to start the inning? Forget about saving the game, save the season. Then with 2 on and no outs in the bottom of the 9th why not send someone up to bunt? Put more pressure on Scott Rolon who was struggling the last 2 games. You get two runners in scoring position with a pitcher who throws so many breaking pitches maybe he will bounce on to the back stop.
you can't bring wagner in in that situation....with the possibility of extra innings and his spot coming up in the bottom of the 9th....also you can't compare the 2 leagues ...one has the DH and the other playes the game iike it was intented to be........records would be a lot different in the AL without the DH......and managers would actually have to think!!!...not a fan of the DH if you couln't tell!!!

then you would end up with the La Russification of both leagues.. use a pitcher against one batter, then swap him out for the next guy.

Posted: **October 21, 2006 10:22 am**

BottleofRum wrote:
TommyBahama wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
LIPH wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....
6th inning, bases loaded, 1 out - Valentin, strike out, Chavez, pop up
9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs - Beltran, strike out
Reyes, 0-5
LoDuca, 0-4

Those guys were as much to blame for the loss as Heilman.
I agree. I don't think there will be a "goat" from this series.

I also think Randolph out thought himself in the 9th inning. Why not bring Wagner in to start the inning? Forget about saving the game, save the season. Then with 2 on and no outs in the bottom of the 9th why not send someone up to bunt? Put more pressure on Scott Rolon who was struggling the last 2 games. You get two runners in scoring position with a pitcher who throws so many breaking pitches maybe he will bounce on to the back stop.
you can't bring wagner in in that situation....with the possibility of extra innings and his spot coming up in the bottom of the 9th....also you can't compare the 2 leagues ...one has the DH and the other playes the game iike it was intented to be........records would be a lot different in the AL without the DH......and managers would actually have to think!!!...not a fan of the DH if you couln't tell!!!

I think you still bring Wagner in, he is their best reliever and you need the save the season. Worry about the bottom of the inning when it happens. It's game 7, every pitch is crucial and you should have you best out there at the end. As it turned out had they brought him in Wagner would have came up with 2 on and no one out, a perfect spot to bunt.

In interleague play the AL dominated the NL in both AL and NL ballparks. Including the every All Star game since ??? The last NL pitcher to WIN a World Series game?.....

Josh Beckett in 2003!

Thats like saying the last time the Red Sox won the WS was 2004.....it was only 3 years ago!!!.......The DH prolongs careers of guys that can hit but can't field in most cases!!!......and for years the NL dominated the all-starr game ........i woild also have to see who played who in the NL parks

Posted: **October 21, 2006 10:47 am**

Let the games begin!

Posted: **October 21, 2006 11:00 am**

: National League 41, American League 34, 2 ties (click years for recaps)
Year Site Winner Final
2006 PNC Park, Pittsburgh - MLB.com coverage> American 3-2
2005 Comerica Park, Detroit - MLB.com coverage> American 7-5
2004 Minute Maid Park, Houston - MLB.com coverage> American 9-4
2003 U.S. Cellular Field, Chicago - MLB.com coverage> American 7-6
2002 Miller Park, Milwaukee - MLB.com coverage> Tie 7-7
2001 SAFECO Field, Seattle - MLB.com coverage> American 4-1
2000 Turner Field, Atlanta American 6-3
1999 Fenway Park, Boston American 4-1
1998 Coors Field, Denver American 13-8
1997 Jacobs Field, Cleveland American 3-1
1996 Veterans Stadium, Philadelphia National 6-0
1995 The Ballpark at Arlington, Texas National 3-2
1994 Three Rivers Stadium, Pittsburgh National 8-7
1993 Oriole Park at Camden Yards, Baltimore American 9-3
1992 Jack Murphy Stadium, San Diego American 13-6
1991 SkyDome, Toronto American 4-2
1990 Wrigley Field, Chicago American 2-0
1989 Anaheim Stadium, Anaheim American 5-3
1988 Riverfront Stadium, Cincinnati American 2-1
1987 Oakland-Alameda County Stadium, Oakland National 2-0
1986 Astrodome, Houston American 3-2
1985 H. Humphrey Metrodome, Minneapolis National 6-1
1984 Candlestick Park, San Francisco National 3-1
1983 Comiskey Park, Chicago American 13-3
1982 Olympic Stadium, Montreal National 4-1
1981 Municipal Stadium, Cleveland National 5-4
1980 Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles National 4-2
1979 Kingdome, Seattle National 7-6
1978 San Diego Stadium National 7-3
1977 Yankee Stadium, New York National 7-6
1976 Veterans Stadium, Philadelphia National 7-1
1975 County Stadium, Milwaukee National 6-3
1974 Three Rivers Stadium, Pittsburgh National 7-2
1973 Royals Stadium, Kansas City National 7-1
1972 Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium, Atlanta National 4-3
1971 Tiger Stadium, Detroit American 6-4
1970 Riverfront Stadium, Cincinnati National 5-4
1969 RFK Memorial Stadium, Washington, D.C. National 9-3
1968 Astrodome, Houston National 1-0
1967 Anaheim Stadium, Anaheim, California National 2-1
1966 Busch Memorial Stadium, St. Louis National 2-1
1965 Metropolitan Stadium, Bloomington, Minnesota National 6-5
1964 Shea Stadium, New York National 7-4
1963 Municipal Stadium, Cleveland National 5-3
1962 Wrigley Field, Chicago American 9-4
1962 D.C. Stadium, Washington National 3-1
1961 Fenway Park, Boston Tie 1-1
1961 Candlestick Park, San Francisco National 5-4
1960 Yankee Stadium, New York National 6-0
1960 Municipal Stadium, Kansas City National 5-3
1959 Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles American 5-3
1959 Forbes Field, Pittsburgh National 5-4
1958 Memorial Stadium, Baltimore American 4-3
1957 Sportsman's Park, St. Louis American 6-5
1956 Griffith Stadium, Washington National 7-3
1955 County Stadium, Milwaukee National 6-5
1954 Municipal Stadium, Cleveland American 11-9
1953 Crosley Field, Cincinnati National 5-1
1952 Shibe Park, Philadelphia National 3-2
1951 Briggs Stadium, Detroit National 8-3
1950 Comiskey Park, Chicago National 4-3
1949 Ebbets Field, Brooklyn American 11-7
1948 Sportsman's Park, St. Louis American 5-2
1947 Wrigley Field, Chicago American 2-1
1946 Fenway Park, Boston American 12-0
1945 No Game held
1944 Forbes Field, Pittsburgh National 7-1
1943 Shibe Park, Philadelphia American 5-3
1942 Polo Grounds, New York American 3-1
1941 Briggs Stadium, Detroit American 7-5
1940 Sportsman's Park, St. Louis National 4-0
1939 Yankee Stadium, New York American 3-1
1938 Crosley Field, Cincinnati National 4-1
1937 Griffith Stadium, Washington American 8-3
1936 Braves Field, Boston National 4-3
1935 Municipal Stadium, Cleveland American 4-1
1934 Polo Grounds, New York American 9-7
1933 Comiskey Park, Chicago American 4-2
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Posted: **October 21, 2006 1:53 pm**

TommyBahama wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
TommyBahama wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
LIPH wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:The Yankees have Aaron Boone now the Mets have Aaron Heilman....
6th inning, bases loaded, 1 out - Valentin, strike out, Chavez, pop up
9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs - Beltran, strike out
Reyes, 0-5
LoDuca, 0-4

Those guys were as much to blame for the loss as Heilman.
I agree. I don't think there will be a "goat" from this series.

I also think Randolph out thought himself in the 9th inning. Why not bring Wagner in to start the inning? Forget about saving the game, save the season. Then with 2 on and no outs in the bottom of the 9th why not send someone up to bunt? Put more pressure on Scott Rolon who was struggling the last 2 games. You get two runners in scoring position with a pitcher who throws so many breaking pitches maybe he will bounce on to the back stop.
you can't bring wagner in in that situation....with the possibility of extra innings and his spot coming up in the bottom of the 9th....also you can't compare the 2 leagues ...one has the DH and the other playes the game iike it was intented to be........records would be a lot different in the AL without the DH......and managers would actually have to think!!!...not a fan of the DH if you couln't tell!!!

I think you still bring Wagner in, he is their best reliever and you need the save the season. Worry about the bottom of the inning when it happens. It's game 7, every pitch is crucial and you should have you best out there at the end. As it turned out had they brought him in Wagner would have came up with 2 on and no one out, a perfect spot to bunt.

In interleague play the AL dominated the NL in both AL and NL ballparks. Including the every All Star game since ??? The last NL pitcher to WIN a World Series game?.....

Josh Beckett in 2003!
Thats like saying the last time the Red Sox won the WS was 2004.....it was only 3 years ago!!!.......The DH prolongs careers of guys that can hit but can't field in most cases!!!......and for years the NL dominated the all-starr game ........i woild also have to see who played who in the NL parks

I can only speak for the Red Sox this season. They played the Mets, Phillies and Nationals at home and went 9-0 they played @ Florida, Atlanta and Philly and went 7-2.

In the NL SF and Col were the only teams above .500 in interleague play this season.

I am rooting for the Cardinals in the series but i just can't see how they even win 1 game.

Posted: **October 21, 2006 2:19 pm**

it would be nice to see a full 7 game series, nothing horrible in the way of 18-1 games, but I am figuring 5, six games tops with the Tigers coming away with a ring.

Posted: **October 21, 2006 4:51 pm**

with the old adage pitching wins....i'll say Tigers in 6

Posted: **October 21, 2006 5:53 pm**

chippewa wrote:Let the games begin!

Carnac, the Lightning Bolt says Tigers in 5
too much pitching and hitting for Cards to deal with

Posted: **October 21, 2006 6:21 pm**

I'm rooting for the Tigers in 7- that way we're (all the Detroit area PHs that are going to Vegas) back in town, and the Tigers win at home. Or at least game 5 so Tom and I are still in town.

Posted: **October 21, 2006 6:33 pm**

I'm rooting for the Cardinals...even though I live in Texas, the first Major League game I ever went to was a Cardinals game in St. Louis with my Uncle (who still lives in the area) and my Father (now deceased).
My son now plays for a YMCA team named the Cardinals.

Posted: **October 22, 2006 12:07 am**

The Red Sox still hold the record alone for most consecutive post season wins - 8!

Posted: **October 22, 2006 12:18 am**

That was a truly uninspired performance by the Tigers tonight

I'm blaming the week off. They'd better tighten up their act Sunday, can't go to St. Louis down 0-2.

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