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If you think a 17 year old is gonna respect someone's privacy you really have your head in the clouds!!!!

I think you could use a bottle of Cabo Wabo!!!

CaptainP wrote:

Jahfin wrote:

PalmettoSon wrote:

Jahfin wrote:

iuparrothead wrote:

Jahfin wrote:Michael Hutchence also isn't still around to kick them in their collective asses and tell them how disrespectful and shabby it is for INXS to go on a "reality" show to find a new singer for the band. Thankfully John Densmore was still around to put a stop to the travesty known as the 21st Century Doors. Would fans ever accept a replacement for Buffett if he were ever to meet an untimely demise and the Reefers went on a reality show to find a replacement? I seriously doubt it.

Does it change how you listen to and appreciate old INXS music? It shouldn't. The band, collectively, has the right to do with it's namesake as it wishes and that is to continue performing. Why would they owe Hutchence respect now anyway... especially by not performing with a new lead singer? (no matter how they auditioned him)

What's done is done but I don't agree with it. A big reason why is because Hutchence isn't here to speak for himself and the fact that it was done via a cheesy-ass "reality" show. Again, how would Buffett fans feel if he got run over by an SUV and the surviving Reefers went on some similar show to hold auditions for a new singer? Some bands (Beatles, Zep) know when to call it quits, some (the list is nearly endless) don't.

While I agree with you to a certain extent, I feel obligated to point out that the only reason Led Zeppelin hasn't mounted a reunion tour with Jason Bonham on drums is because John Paul Jones won't do it.

I never mentioned anything about Jason Bonham being on drums. I just said Zeppelin has actually stayed true to their word by not reuniting and if they're wise (which I believe them to be), they never will. The closest thing to a Led Zeppelin reunion we're ever likely to see has already happened and that would be Page & Plant's tours in support of Unledded and Walking Into Clarksdale. Jason has now slipped into the deepest depths of suckitude by drumming for Foriegner.

Agree. I wish Queen hadn't come back out of retirement.

Queen = Mercury,May,Taylor,Deacon.
Zeppelin = Plant,Page,Jones,(John)Bonham
Beatles = Lennon,McCartney,Harrison,Starkey

Some bands can pull it off with rotating members, some can't.

It's interesting that one famous name in there (offspring) has been a key part of keeping the great bands rollin' - drummer Zack Starkey.
When he toured with Page/Plant in the late 90's, many agreed the band came its' closest to past perfection.
He's since moved on to take over skins duty with The Who, and was/is a big part of their creative resurgence.
Look for him to be out there when The Who tours this year

Lightning Bolt wrote:

CaptainP wrote:

Jahfin wrote:

PalmettoSon wrote:

Jahfin wrote:

iuparrothead wrote: Does it change how you listen to and appreciate old INXS music? It shouldn't. The band, collectively, has the right to do with it's namesake as it wishes and that is to continue performing. Why would they owe Hutchence respect now anyway... especially by not performing with a new lead singer? (no matter how they auditioned him)

What's done is done but I don't agree with it. A big reason why is because Hutchence isn't here to speak for himself and the fact that it was done via a cheesy-ass "reality" show. Again, how would Buffett fans feel if he got run over by an SUV and the surviving Reefers went on some similar show to hold auditions for a new singer? Some bands (Beatles, Zep) know when to call it quits, some (the list is nearly endless) don't.

While I agree with you to a certain extent, I feel obligated to point out that the only reason Led Zeppelin hasn't mounted a reunion tour with Jason Bonham on drums is because John Paul Jones won't do it.

I never mentioned anything about Jason Bonham being on drums. I just said Zeppelin has actually stayed true to their word by not reuniting and if they're wise (which I believe them to be), they never will. The closest thing to a Led Zeppelin reunion we're ever likely to see has already happened and that would be Page & Plant's tours in support of Unledded and Walking Into Clarksdale. Jason has now slipped into the deepest depths of suckitude by drumming for Foriegner.

Agree. I wish Queen hadn't come back out of retirement.

Queen = Mercury,May,Taylor,Deacon.
Zeppelin = Plant,Page,Jones,(John)Bonham
Beatles = Lennon,McCartney,Harrison,Starkey

Some bands can pull it off with rotating members, some can't.

It's interesting that one famous name in there (offspring) has been a key part of keeping the great bands rollin' - drummer Zack Starkey.
When he toured with Page/Plant in the late 90's, many agreed the band came its' closest to past perfection.
He's since moved on to take over skins duty with The Who, and was/is a big part of their creative resurgence.
Look for him to be out there when The Who tours this year

While some bands can and some bands can't pull off reuniting after the death of one member, the Who is trying to do it without TWO members! Now that John Entwhistle is dead, the Who should fade away, too....

Lightning Bolt wrote:

CaptainP wrote:

Jahfin wrote:

PalmettoSon wrote:

Jahfin wrote:

iuparrothead wrote: Does it change how you listen to and appreciate old INXS music? It shouldn't. The band, collectively, has the right to do with it's namesake as it wishes and that is to continue performing. Why would they owe Hutchence respect now anyway... especially by not performing with a new lead singer? (no matter how they auditioned him)

What's done is done but I don't agree with it. A big reason why is because Hutchence isn't here to speak for himself and the fact that it was done via a cheesy-ass "reality" show. Again, how would Buffett fans feel if he got run over by an SUV and the surviving Reefers went on some similar show to hold auditions for a new singer? Some bands (Beatles, Zep) know when to call it quits, some (the list is nearly endless) don't.

While I agree with you to a certain extent, I feel obligated to point out that the only reason Led Zeppelin hasn't mounted a reunion tour with Jason Bonham on drums is because John Paul Jones won't do it.

I never mentioned anything about Jason Bonham being on drums. I just said Zeppelin has actually stayed true to their word by not reuniting and if they're wise (which I believe them to be), they never will. The closest thing to a Led Zeppelin reunion we're ever likely to see has already happened and that would be Page & Plant's tours in support of Unledded and Walking Into Clarksdale. Jason has now slipped into the deepest depths of suckitude by drumming for Foriegner.

Agree. I wish Queen hadn't come back out of retirement.

Queen = Mercury,May,Taylor,Deacon.
Zeppelin = Plant,Page,Jones,(John)Bonham
Beatles = Lennon,McCartney,Harrison,Starkey

Some bands can pull it off with rotating members, some can't.

It's interesting that one famous name in there (offspring) has been a key part of keeping the great bands rollin' - drummer Zack Starkey.
When he toured with Page/Plant in the late 90's, many agreed the band came its' closest to past perfection.
He's since moved on to take over skins duty with The Who, and was/is a big part of their creative resurgence.
Look for him to be out there when The Who tours this year

Zak Starkey never toured with Page and Plant. The drummer for both the Unledded and Walking Into Clarksdale tours was Plant's son-in-law Michael Lee.

The Beatles and Zeppelin overrated?

Overrated compared to who/what?

They were the masters of their time and genre in rock and whether or not you liked their music, it's asinine to say they were overrated.....

Jahfin wrote:

Lightning Bolt wrote:

CaptainP wrote:

Jahfin wrote:

PalmettoSon wrote:

Jahfin wrote: What's done is done but I don't agree with it. A big reason why is because Hutchence isn't here to speak for himself and the fact that it was done via a cheesy-ass "reality" show. Again, how would Buffett fans feel if he got run over by an SUV and the surviving Reefers went on some similar show to hold auditions for a new singer? Some bands (Beatles, Zep) know when to call it quits, some (the list is nearly endless) don't.

While I agree with you to a certain extent, I feel obligated to point out that the only reason Led Zeppelin hasn't mounted a reunion tour with Jason Bonham on drums is because John Paul Jones won't do it.

I never mentioned anything about Jason Bonham being on drums. I just said Zeppelin has actually stayed true to their word by not reuniting and if they're wise (which I believe them to be), they never will. The closest thing to a Led Zeppelin reunion we're ever likely to see has already happened and that would be Page & Plant's tours in support of Unledded and Walking Into Clarksdale. Jason has now slipped into the deepest depths of suckitude by drumming for Foriegner.

Agree. I wish Queen hadn't come back out of retirement.

Queen = Mercury,May,Taylor,Deacon.
Zeppelin = Plant,Page,Jones,(John)Bonham
Beatles = Lennon,McCartney,Harrison,Starkey

Some bands can pull it off with rotating members, some can't.

It's interesting that one famous name in there (offspring) has been a key part of keeping the great bands rollin' - drummer Zack Starkey.
When he toured with Page/Plant in the late 90's, many agreed the band came its' closest to past perfection.
He's since moved on to take over skins duty with The Who, and was/is a big part of their creative resurgence.
Look for him to be out there when The Who tours this year

Zak Starkey never toured with Page and Plant. The drummer for both the Unledded and Walking Into Clarksdale tours was Plant's son-in-law Michael Lee.

I coulda swore.... nope.. I stand corrected!

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INXS Mk. 2

Just as Star Search faded to black in the 90s, VH1 brought us Bands on the Run, a rock & roll-meets-Survivor type contest (anyone remember Flickerstick?). Soon after, the American Idol concept crossed the Atlantic and, well, damn near changed everything. And that ain't a good thing.

Suddenly, it no longer takes 10-plus years of blood, sweat and tears to become an "overnight sensation." All that's required is landing a spot on a hyped-to-the-max television show that's little more than an elaborate karaoke contest. Now, nearly everyone's in on the act: P. Diddy decided to make the band, Sharon and Ozzy led the battle for Ozzfest, Missy Elliot hit the road to stardom and others continue cashing in. So it was no surprise when one of the kings of reality TV, Mark Burnett (executive producer of Survivor and creator of The Apprentice), brought us Rock Star: INXS.

The concept was simple enough: find a new lead singer for INXS, a band who lost frontman Michael Hutchence unexpectedly to suicide in 1997. And what'd they have to lose? Besides a couple of career retrospectives, INXS hadn't released a new CD since Hutchence's death. Still, over the course of their 25-year-career, this Australian-based group has sold more than 30 million albums worldwide and performed more than 4,000 live shows for more than 25 million people in almost 50 countries. Could reality TV restore the band's success and really create a new rock star? Well, it all depends on whom you ask.

Of course, some folks in the music biz want nothing to do with a show like this or any other for that matter. But American audiences have obviously tuned in -- strong enough for Burnett to have Rock Star: The Series (part 2) already in the works.

Among rockbiz skeptics, longtime band manager Mark Zenow (Cowboy Mouth, Weekend Excursion) thinks that because Rock Star: INXS followed so many other music reality concepts, it didn't have much to offer.

"An original idea, whether farfetched or cool, often ends up being better than any copycat version," Zenow says. "So while American Idol may be extremely popular with certain viewers, I'm not a big fan of many of the shows that came after it. "I mean I liked INXS back in the day, but don't have much interest in what they're doing today," he adds.

Chuck Morrison, founder of Charlotte-based MoRisen Records, hated the show. "My initial thought was this was a cheesy idea. And, after tuning in for five seconds, I still thought it was a cheesy idea," he says.

But what do you do when you're a highly successful band and your lead singer turns up dead one day? "That's about the worst thing that could happen to a band," says Zenow. "The singer is often the identity of a band. I would think that situation would be next to impossible to recover from. But then you realize there are many lives which depend upon the success of the band, and you have to begin to put the business back into action...As they say: the show must go on."

"I could see why the band would do the show," offers local singer-songwriter Carey Sims. "I mean who was going to care if INXS got a new lead singer? A lot of people I talk to who are in their 20s didn't even know who INXS was, but now, since they did this show, they kinda re-identified themselves." Sims adds: "I can't really blame 'em for that. It's the nature of this business."

In fact, Sims auditioned at the local tryouts. "I wanted to do it because I held INXS on a pedestal," he explains. "It wasn't like Quiet Riot was looking for a new lead singer, this was INXS and to me, if I had a chance to take a swing at a home run pitch why shouldn't I take it?"

However, what Sims expected and what went down at the audition didn't jibe. "They were nice, but it wasn't the environment I was expecting," he says. "One of the crew even said, 'It doesn't matter how good you can sing, this is a TV show.'

"It was definitely more along the lines of American Idol than I thought it would be," Sims says. "And once I saw a little bit of the show I was really glad not to be involved."

Despite the criticism, Rock Star spawned a CD, a DVD and a world tour featuring the band with new lead singer/new sensation, J.D. Fortune. Switch, INXS' latest, peaked at No. 17 on the Billboard album charts. As for the tour, most dates are sold out, including the Charlotte stop.

"It doesn't surprise me the show here sold out," quips Morrison. "The herd will follow. And that is what's sad, because these are the same people who don't support local music." He adds: "Local music, what my bands are doing, that's true reality not some kind of forced reality that you can watch on TV."

That just sounds like a bunch of bitter rambling. Most of the points made were in direct support of why the show was so popular and of actual quality. Mark Burnett is a great producer (and promoter) and made an exceptional 'show' that was exactly 'hyped-to-the-max television show that's little more than an elaborate karaoke contest'... it wasn't advertised as anything else. I don't think viewers were that dumb and didn't realize it was exactly that. In the end, the 'new' INXS is a quality project and critics just seem bitter.

I agree, Ann.
The show was an unqualified success, both for INXS and as a summer ratings hit.
I wanted to dismiss the show early on, but was surprised by the amount of decent quality.
I did skip a lot of middle episodes...hey, it was summer nights but it was good entertainment
as it came down to the final selection.

Whether, INXS mach II takes off... time will tell, huh?
Rock on!

Lightning Bolt wrote:The show was an unqualified success, both for INXS and as a summer ratings hit.

As I recall the show bombed in the ratings and was moved to VH1.

Van Halen has officially hit rock bottom if this is all true. Saw them with Sammy in '04 and they were still pretty good. This would just be making a mockery of a once legendary band.

thekidsalami wrote:Van Halen has officially hit rock bottom if this is all true.

It's not true. Please take the time to glance through the thread and you'll see the update I posted regarding the upcoming season of Rockstar.