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Posted: February 14, 2006 7:27 am
by Y-NO-9-O
Sam wrote:No one has seen the politicizing of this other than here?
Hmmm look around a bit...You won't have to look far

For the article go here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11312757/
Sorry, but that is just news. Reporters asking questions. There was not 1 politico quoted in that story. Just like the event, it is just news.
As the late great Warren Oates would say, Lighten up, Francis.

Posted: February 14, 2006 8:11 am
by flyboy55
I don't think anybody should have been shot, and I'm sorry that somebody was shot.

I don't necessarily think somebody getting shot is funny (depends on the person and the circumstances), and I think I have a great sense of humor.

What I think needs to be addressed is this:

The VP is obviously quick on the draw, but I think the man's on a HAIR TRIGGER!

I mean, target identification is key(Saddam caused 9-11?)! Nobody should be shooting at things if they don't know what they are (WMD in Iraq?). There is a danger to shooting too quickly - it reminds me of jumping to conclusions. Nobody should be in too much of a rush to pull the trigger. The aftermath is sometimes very difficult to deal with (large numbers of casualties).

Anyway, I wish VP Cheney's friend (skeet shooting target) a quick recovery and that's all I have to say.

(OOPS! I guess I went political!)

Cheers.

Posted: February 14, 2006 8:16 am
by Y-NO-9-O
flyboy55 wrote:I don't think anybody should have been shot, and I'm sorry that somebody was shot.

I don't necessarily think somebody getting shot is funny (depends on the person and the circumstances), and I think I have a great sense of humor.

What I think needs to be addressed is this:

The VP is obviously quick on the draw, but I think the man's on a HAIR TRIGGER!

I mean, target identification is key(Saddam caused 9-11?)! Nobody should be shooting at things if they don't know what they are (WMD in Iraq?). There is a danger to shooting too quickly - it reminds me of jumping to conclusions. Nobody should be in too much of a rush to pull the trigger. The aftermath is sometimes very difficult to deal with (large numbers of casualties).

Anyway, I wish VP Cheney's friend (skeet shooting target) a quick recovery and that's all I have to say.

(OOPS! I guess I went political!)

Cheers.
Sam, this is politicizing. See the difference between this and the article you posted?

Posted: February 14, 2006 10:01 am
by slimwis
As the late great Warren Oates would say, Lighten up, Francis.

You call me Francis, I'll kill ya.

Posted: February 14, 2006 10:18 am
by LIPH
rsgeist wrote:
Sam wrote:
rsgeist wrote:
Wino you know wrote:
rsgeist wrote:Actually, I think HST was still president when I was born ('51). (yeah, I'm really old)
Yes, Harry Truman was president in 1951. I was born in December of that year, which means YOU'RE older than ME.
FINALLY SOMEBODY admits to being older than me.
I feel SO good right now. :lol:
Glad I could help. I'm all about improving everyone's self-esteem! :lol:
So what can you about Larry's self-esteem??? :wink: 8) 8) :lol: :pirate: :pirate: :pirate: :pirate:
Well I'm older than him, too ..... of course, I'm way cooler so that alone might not help. 8)
I'm so cool, I'm frozen. And I know Heather. 8)

Posted: February 14, 2006 10:20 am
by RinglingRingling
LIPH wrote:
rsgeist wrote:
Sam wrote:
rsgeist wrote:
Wino you know wrote:
rsgeist wrote:Actually, I think HST was still president when I was born ('51). (yeah, I'm really old)
Yes, Harry Truman was president in 1951. I was born in December of that year, which means YOU'RE older than ME.
FINALLY SOMEBODY admits to being older than me.
I feel SO good right now. :lol:
Glad I could help. I'm all about improving everyone's self-esteem! :lol:
So what can you about Larry's self-esteem??? :wink: 8) 8) :lol: :pirate: :pirate: :pirate: :pirate:
Well I'm older than him, too ..... of course, I'm way cooler so that alone might not help. 8)
I'm so cool, I'm frozen. And I know Heather. 8)
I thought that was because of the blizzard this weekend.

Posted: February 14, 2006 12:12 pm
by rsgeist
LIPH wrote:
rsgeist wrote:
Sam wrote:
rsgeist wrote:
Wino you know wrote:
rsgeist wrote:Actually, I think HST was still president when I was born ('51). (yeah, I'm really old)
Yes, Harry Truman was president in 1951. I was born in December of that year, which means YOU'RE older than ME.
FINALLY SOMEBODY admits to being older than me.
I feel SO good right now. :lol:
Glad I could help. I'm all about improving everyone's self-esteem! :lol:
So what can you about Larry's self-esteem??? :wink: 8) 8) :lol: :pirate: :pirate: :pirate: :pirate:
Well I'm older than him, too ..... of course, I'm way cooler so that alone might not help. 8)
I'm so cool, I'm frozen. And I know Heather. 8)
I guess I'm gonna have to concede on the coolness thing, too. :-? :lol:

Posted: February 14, 2006 1:41 pm
by citcat
rsgeist wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Threads like this leave me embarassed to think people come to this forum to read about JB and find crap like this.......... :-?
As opposed to Mexican beers, cell phones, Valentines Day, technicolor hairdos? Did I misinterpret the meaning of off topic?
UH ! I think I resemble that remark. HEY! Us techiehairdocolorators have feelings too ! HEY ! :evil:


those who cannot take a joke, please scroll down to next post 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: February 14, 2006 1:50 pm
by captainjoe
citcat wrote:
rsgeist wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Threads like this leave me embarassed to think people come to this forum to read about JB and find crap like this.......... :-?
As opposed to Mexican beers, cell phones, Valentines Day, technicolor hairdos? Did I misinterpret the meaning of off topic?
UH ! I think I resemble that remark. HEY! Us techiehairdocolorators have feelings too ! HEY ! :evil:


those who cannot take a joke, please scroll down to next post 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:
What is the next post? I wanna know!!!!!!! :lol:

Posted: February 14, 2006 1:58 pm
by rsgeist
citcat wrote:
rsgeist wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Threads like this leave me embarassed to think people come to this forum to read about JB and find crap like this.......... :-?
As opposed to Mexican beers, cell phones, Valentines Day, technicolor hairdos? Did I misinterpret the meaning of off topic?
UH ! I think I resemble that remark. HEY! Us techiehairdocolorators have feelings too ! HEY ! :evil:


those who cannot take a joke, please scroll down to next post 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:
You've come to the wrong website .... you want TechnicolorHairdoNews.com

Posted: February 14, 2006 2:02 pm
by NYCPORT
Looks like the guy he shot just had a heart attack from a piece of buck shot going to his heart.
This administration can't even find a good doctor! :roll:

Posted: February 14, 2006 2:19 pm
by citcat
rsgeist wrote:
citcat wrote:
rsgeist wrote:
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Threads like this leave me embarassed to think people come to this forum to read about JB and find crap like this.......... :-?
As opposed to Mexican beers, cell phones, Valentines Day, technicolor hairdos? Did I misinterpret the meaning of off topic?
UH ! I think I resemble that remark. HEY! Us techiehairdocolorators have feelings too ! HEY ! :evil:


those who cannot take a joke, please scroll down to next post 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:
You've come to the wrong website .... you want TechnicolorHairdoNews.com
awRITE !! A website for my peeps!!! :D

Posted: February 14, 2006 2:28 pm
by smacky
Looks like the guy he shot just had a heart attack from a piece of buck shot going to his heart.
Holy crap. Cheney might go from being the second Vice President in history to shoot a man to being the second Vice President in history to kill a man.

Posted: February 14, 2006 2:31 pm
by Cubbie Bear
and don't laugh at her name



White House Finds Humor In Hunting Mishap

By NEDRA PICKLER
Associated Press Writer
Published February 14, 2006, 1:08 PM CST


WASHINGTON -- The White House has decided that the best way to deal with Vice President Dick Cheney's shooting accident is to joke about it.

President Bush's spokesman quipped Tuesday that the burnt orange school colors of the University of Texas championship football team that was visiting the White House shouldn't be confused for hunter's safety wear.

"The orange that they're wearing is not because they're concerned that the vice president may be there," joked White House press secretary Scott McClellan, following the lead of late-night television comedians. "That's why I'm wearing it."

The president's brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, took a similar jab after slapping an orange sticker on his chest from the Florida Farm Bureau that read, "No Farmers, No Food."

"I'm a little concerned that Dick Cheney is going to walk in," the governor cracked during an appearance in Tampa Monday.

Cheney, an experienced hunter, has not been joking or saying anything publicly at all about the accident Saturday, when he accidentally sprayed a hunting partner with shotgun pellets when aiming for a quail.

The Texas Parks and Wildlife Department issued a report Monday that found the main factor contributing to the accident was a "hunter's judgment factor." No other secondary factors were found to have played a role.

The department gave Cheney and the victim, prominent Republican attorney Harry Whittington, warning citations for breaking Texas hunting law by failing to buy a $7 stamp allowing them to shoot upland game birds. A department spokesman said warnings are being issued in most cases because the stamp requirement only went into effect five months ago and many hunters weren't aware of it.

Cheney's office said Monday night in a statement that Cheney had a $125 nonresident hunting license and has sent a $7 check to cover the cost of the stamp. "The staff asked for all permits needed, but was not informed of the $7 upland game bird stamp requirement," the statement said.

The state's report said Whittington was retrieving a downed bird and stepped out of the hunting line he was sharing with Cheney. "Another covey was flushed and Cheney swung on a bird and fired, striking Whittington in the face, neck and chest at approximately 30 yards," the report said.

Whittington, who had been in stable condition after being moved from intensive care, suffered "a minor heart attack" Tuesday morning, hospital officials said. He was immediately moved back to the intensive care unit for further treatment, said Peter Banko, the administrator at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial in Texas.

Banko said there was an irregularity in the heartbeat caused by a pellet, and doctors performed a cardiac catheterization. Whittington expressed a desire to leave the hospital, but Banko said he would probably stay for another week to make sure more shot doesn't move to other organs or to other part of his body.

Katharine Armstrong, owner of the ranch where the shooting occurred, said it happened toward the end of the hunt, when it was still sunny but as darkness was encroaching and they were preparing to go inside. She said Whittington made a mistake by not announcing that he had walked up to rejoin the hunting line, and Cheney didn't see him as he tried to down a bird.

Armstrong said she saw Cheney's security detail running toward the scene. "The first thing that crossed my mind was he had a heart problem," she told The Associated Press.

She said Cheney stayed "close but cool" while the agents and medical personnel treated Whittington, then took him by ambulance to the hospital. Later, the hunting group sat down for dinner while Whittington was being treated, receiving updates from a family member at the hospital. Armstrong described Cheney's demeanor during dinner as "very worried" about Whittington.

Pamela Willeford, the U.S. ambassador to Switzerland, another member of the hunting party, told The Dallas Morning News for a story in Tuesday's editions that she and Cheney didn't realize Whittington had picked up a bird and caught up with them.

Willeford said she has hunted with Cheney before and would again.

"He's a great shot. He's very safety conscious. This is something that unfortunately was a bad accident and when you're with a group like that, he's safe or safer than all the rest of us," she said.

But the accident raised questions about Cheney's adherence to hunting safety practices and the White House's failure to disclose the accident in a timely way.

Several hunting safety experts interviewed agreed it would have been a good idea for Whittington to announce himself. But every expert stressed that the shooter is responsible for avoiding other people.

Bush was told about Cheney's involvement in the accident shortly before 8 p.m. Saturday -- about an hour after it occurred -- but the White House did not disclose the accident until Sunday afternoon, and then only in response to press questions.

Facing a press corps upset that news had been withheld, press secretary Scott McClellan said, "I think you can always look back at these issues and look at how to do a better job."

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Posted: February 14, 2006 2:33 pm
by smacky
Oops. And if you think Democrats were the only people making jokes about this, check this out (of course they joked about it before learning the man had a HEART ATTACK):

White House Finds Humor in Hunting Mishap
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

(See above. No point posting it twice!)

Posted: February 14, 2006 3:40 pm
by ejr
Just heard that the guy had to have cardiac catheterization (sp?) and probably will be in the hospital for another week. I have laughed hard about this whole thing the past couple of days, but it has suddenly become far more serious than before (or at least than we were told) and I certainly do hope he recovers smoothly and quickly.

Posted: February 14, 2006 3:54 pm
by SharkOnLand
Open mouth, insert foot.

I take back my heart attack comment. I wouldn't wish serious injury on anybody.

Posted: February 14, 2006 3:59 pm
by Tiki Bar
ejr wrote:Just heard that the guy had to have cardiac catheterization
I had that, aka an angiogram, a couple weeks ago. Unless it's being mis-reported, that's a test to look for blockages in the heart.

Posted: February 14, 2006 4:30 pm
by springparrot

Posted: February 14, 2006 5:05 pm
by Y-NO-9-O
Sam wrote: A 28 guage shotgun (or other shotgun for that matter) with a bird/fieldload at 30 yards is not going to be very life threatening to humans. Scarey perhaps, painful with surface skin punctures.....but unless a pellet or pellets hit in the eye or eyes...there should not be any serious problem(s). Heavy clothing would be enough to protect a person and act as a bulletproof vest from those sort rounds at that range.Might ruin the clothing though.
Well, it looks as though his "bulletproof vest", a.k.a. "heavy clothes", was not enough to ward off "those sort rounds at that range". I would say a BB next to the heart penetrated a little farther than surface skin punctures. And I would say any heart attack is a serious problem. Unless, of course, we are not hearing the whole story. Naw, that would never happen.
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