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Clearly suicide bombers are attacking and killing more than just Americans....


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Recruiting suicide bombers ruled not terrorism
Italian judges uphold acquittals for men seeking recruits to fight U.S. troops\


Updated: 10:12 p.m. ET Feb. 16, 2006
ROME - A panel of Italian judges upheld the November acquittals of three North Africans on international terror charges, ruling that recruiting suicide bombers to fight against U.S. soldiers is not terrorism, a lawyer said Thursday.

The verdict by the Milan judges, released Wednesday, echoes an earlier one in the case when a lower court judge ruled the actions of the three men were those of guerrillas, not terrorists.

Government officials condemned the latest ruling. Justice Minister Roberto Castell apologized to the victims of suicide attacks and their relatives, saying “there is in me a great feeling of shame, bitterness and powerlessness.”

“At this point, I feel I have the duty to apologize to the hundreds of children, women and men who were massacred by suicide bombers, and to their relatives,” he said in a statement carried by Italian news agencies.

Italy has been a firm ally of the U.S.-led effort in Iraq and has peacekeeping troops there despite strong opposition to the war in Italy.

The judges ruled that recruiting suicide bombers could not be considered terrorism because during an armed conflict the only acts that count as terrorism are “acts exclusively directed against a civilian population,” according to a copy of the ruling given to The Associated Press.

“The recruitment of volunteers in Iraq to fight against the Americans cannot be considered under any circumstance terrorist activity,” it adds.

The three North Africans had been accused of recruiting suicide bombers for Iraq. Officially, they were charged with international terrorism, a charge introduced in Italy after Sept. 11, 2001.

The prosecutor had sought prison terms from six to 10 years.


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But in ruling in January 2005, a judge acquitted Moroccan Mohamed Daki and Tunisians Ali Ben Sassi Toumi and Bouyahia Maher of international terrorism charges, ruling their actions were those of guerrillas, not terrorists.

The case has highlighted the frequent failure by prosecutors in Italy to win cases against terror suspects.

WHAT THE F*CK!?!?!?!

If they were recruiting people to attack Italians, it probably would have been much different.

And what the he|| were the prosecutors thinking by only locking them up for 6-10 years?

Oh, the insanity

Italian justice is a lot like French military prowess.

Were they considered Guerrillas, or Gorillas?

Italy has been a firm ally of the U.S.-led effort in Iraq and has peacekeeping troops there despite strong opposition to the war in Italy.

We're fighting a war in Italy?

Obviously they are nothing more than common everyday variety of extremist fundalmentalist Islamic terrorists.

Italy had/has their experience with terrs commiting other acts of murder and violence...including the Red Brigade. They had captured some members of the Red Brigade, placed them in a cage of iron/steel bars for trial, and two of the members were having sex during the trial in the court room to show their contempt/disdain for value of the court system.

Considering the actions taken after the incidents aboard Achille Lauro,( and other incidents elsewhere) I am sort of mildly surprized at this. I know the Carabineri do not play or take lightly to such people that commit such acts. But then the court system there, like here in the States, what happens, is out of their hands after they get the badguys.

I suppose this may be some sort of payback or message to leave Italy alone... we did what you asked about our reporter....

I have no doubt the ACLU would be trying to defend such people here in the United States if they were caught actively pursuing recruitment.

Time will tell just where this will end up.... there is only one way to deal with terrorists....eradicate them at every opportunity, just like cockroaches and other vermin. Some will always survive, that does not mean you will or one should tolerate them in your/their dwelling. ( well, perhaps unless one is a member of PETA and you know the one I mean!)

If not there will be many more innocent victims and loss of innocent lives and needless destruction.

I would point out that the Justice Minister and other Italian govt officials are outraged by this decision. Perhaps this is the Italian version of the 9th curcuit ...

There is no justice, only "just us!"

This thread is just TOO full of oxymoron!

tikitatas wrote:This thread is just TOO full of oxymoron!

Are you saying there are a lot of dumb oxen in this thread?

LIPH wrote:

tikitatas wrote:This thread is just TOO full of oxymoron!

Are you saying there are a lot of dumb oxen in this thread?

Larry, you are so quick with the fun retorts!

I'm only here for comic relief.

LIPH wrote:I'm only here for comic relief.

Everyone look at Larry and laugh!!!!

LIPH wrote:I'm only here for comic relief.

I wrote you a song yesterday, about being in the mood . . .

tikitatas wrote:

LIPH wrote:I'm only here for comic relief.

I wrote you a song yesterday, about being in the mood . . .

Nothing like a moddy that quotes the rules to everyone, participating in or initiating a thread hi-jacking. LOL

What is going to be interesting to see is about the 3 men indicted in Ohio to recruit members and to cause loss of American troops and other lives and injuries, among other things. No doubt the ACLU will be defending them.

Go here for further info on the indictment: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11188274/

Sam wrote:

tikitatas wrote:

LIPH wrote:I'm only here for comic relief.

I wrote you a song yesterday, about being in the mood . . .

Nothing like a moddy that quotes the rules to everyone, participating in or initiating a thread hi-jacking. LOL

What is going to be interesting to see is about the 3 men indicted in Ohio to recruit members and to cause loss of American troops and other lives and injuries, among other things. No doubt the ACLU will be defending them.

Go here for further info on the indictment: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11188274/

Sorry, Sam. I didn't mean to get off topic.

tikitatas wrote:

Sam wrote:

tikitatas wrote:

LIPH wrote:I'm only here for comic relief.

I wrote you a song yesterday, about being in the mood . . .

Nothing like a moddy that quotes the rules to everyone, participating in or initiating a thread hi-jacking. LOL

What is going to be interesting to see is about the 3 men indicted in Ohio to recruit members and to cause loss of American troops and other lives and injuries, among other things. No doubt the ACLU will be defending them.

Go here for further info on the indictment: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11188274/

Sorry, Sam. I didn't mean to get off topic.

Thank you! This is a serious topic and could potentially result in more loss of military and noncombatant or civilian lives by saying these individuals committed no crimes.

There is a widely accepted law abided and accepted and acknowledged by in many ( if not most) "modern countries" ( if you will allow the term) about mercenaries and recruiting them.
One would think that an ally would not hesitate to punish such offenders, especially after the various terrorist attacks and incidents in their own country....

Then again...Italy does have it's share of various "other party" members