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buffettbride wrote:So, like, if I go to a Le McDonalds in France do you think I'd be able to order a Le Quarter Horse Pounder with Cheese?

If you go to the track in France, Its Win, Place or Big Mac

Do they still have McDonald's in France?? Remember there was a guy that tried to burn one down a while back and there was a group or something protesting McD's.
Not long ago, the guy that was arrested for burning McD's was denied entrance into the U.S. because of that arrest and all of the activist were yelling about it.

Cubbie Bear wrote:

buffettbride wrote:So, like, if I go to a Le McDonalds in France do you think I'd be able to order a Le Quarter Horse Pounder with Cheese?

If you go to the track in France, Its Win, Place or Big Mac

ragtopW wrote:BTW All.. or most of us... Have eaten Horse
not knowing Ever eat at an out of the way diner?? Mom and Pop??
a Roadhouse?? somewhere miles from nowhere??

you have eaten Horse.. trust me..
that meatloaf, that chickenfried steaks?? that huge burger..

a little moist? good but not quite the same??


yep Horse..

and sorry please do not feel protected by the Health Codes
I delivered into some of those places and saw the walkins..

Oh the stories I could tell..

Order meatloaf or chicken fried steak...out? NEVER....

I've know a lot of horse people...and they don't like this...quite a few race horses end up at auctions and ultimately....legislation has been proposed..and Humane Societies are very involved..

pretty sad...

More propaganda from the HSUS?


Go figure.

live2ski wrote:More propaganda from the HSUS?


Go figure.

??????
How so????

If horses weren't supposed to be eaten, they wouldn't be made out of meat.

rednekkPH wrote:

buffettbride wrote:So, like, if I go to a Le McDonalds in France do you think I'd be able to order a Le Quarter Horse Pounder with Cheese?

France uses the metric system. They have no idea what a quarter pound is. In France it is a Horse Royale with Cheese.

"Un cheval royale avec fromage, sil vous plait."

rednekkPH wrote:If horses weren't supposed to be eaten, they wouldn't be made out of meat.

Simply, that's true; and I own a horse, always have, so it's not like I don't have an emotional attachment to them.

Going back to the original article/interview; this part really makes no sense:

DEREK: Personally, I have problems. I don't agree with them on some issues. As humans, we're always evolving. As far as...
O'REILLY: Do you eat meat?
DEREK: Yes. Yes.
O'REILLY: So you eat...
DEREK: And I'll separate this. Horses are not livestock in our country. They are never bred, ever, to be eaten.
O'REILLY: That's interesting.
DEREK: For human consumption.
O'REILLY: So livestock is bred to feed humans — in the food chain.
DEREK: That's their purpose. Cows.
O'REILLY: But horses are not.
DEREK: Never in this country. Pets, sport...

and it makes no sense simply because you've now separated what animals are 'worth' killing and what ones aren't. Horses are pets, so we can't kill them, but we can kill the lowly cow because that's what they're good for.

I'm not sure how any of that's ok. Plus she says it's 'not in our culture'. Technically America is a melting pot, so we are a mix of cultures, including the ones that view 'pet' animals as a source of food.

Just my opinion

sy wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:If horses weren't supposed to be eaten, they wouldn't be made out of meat.

Simply, that's true; and I own a horse, always have, so it's not like I don't have an emotional attachment to them.

Going back to the original article/interview; this part really makes no sense:

DEREK: Personally, I have problems. I don't agree with them on some issues. As humans, we're always evolving. As far as...
O'REILLY: Do you eat meat?
DEREK: Yes. Yes.
O'REILLY: So you eat...
DEREK: And I'll separate this. Horses are not livestock in our country. They are never bred, ever, to be eaten.
O'REILLY: That's interesting.
DEREK: For human consumption.
O'REILLY: So livestock is bred to feed humans — in the food chain.
DEREK: That's their purpose. Cows.
O'REILLY: But horses are not.
DEREK: Never in this country. Pets, sport...

and it makes no sense simply because you've now separated what animals are 'worth' killing and what ones aren't. Horses are pets, so we can't kill them, but we can kill the lowly cow because that's what they're good for.

I'm not sure how any of that's ok. Plus she says it's 'not in our culture'. Technically America is a melting pot, so we are a mix of cultures, including the ones that view 'pet' animals as a source of food.

Just my opinion

Okies so we are a melting pot, that much is true....So should we also accept people eating dogs and cats and bugs and monkey brains?

I know many people that if someone hurts their dog...that person that did the killing or hurting of their dog can most likely "cancel Christmas"! or if they survive will think long and hard before harming or killing one again.

As a society we are drawing lines all the time some where, don't we? I mean if people are facing a famine or starving to death is acceptable by anyone's standards. You own a horse would you find it acceptable if some stole him and sold him to the slaughter house? Not being funny it is a serious question as one of the persons interviewed that some horses were no doubt stolen and records are not being kept according to the federal law.

There may not be much outward appearence to the animal but if it had been treated with drugs that are not safe for humans .....then what happens?

If horses were raised to be and considered a food animal then ok no problem with it, but then again dogs and cats are not raised or considered to be a food animal in this country either. So yes culture does have A LOT to do with it.
What else can be done with the horses? I don't really know, but I do not find serving them as gourmet food in another country to be acceptable.

For example of cultural differences, look at cattle in certain parts of India are not considered a food item and are considered to be sacred. We have people from India living here in the States.....where cattle are considered a primary source of food by the majority of people.

sy wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:If horses weren't supposed to be eaten, they wouldn't be made out of meat.

Simply, that's true; and I own a horse, always have, so it's not like I don't have an emotional attachment to them.

Going back to the original article/interview; this part really makes no sense:

DEREK: Personally, I have problems. I don't agree with them on some issues. As humans, we're always evolving. As far as...
O'REILLY: Do you eat meat?
DEREK: Yes. Yes.
O'REILLY: So you eat...
DEREK: And I'll separate this. Horses are not livestock in our country. They are never bred, ever, to be eaten.
O'REILLY: That's interesting.
DEREK: For human consumption.
O'REILLY: So livestock is bred to feed humans — in the food chain.
DEREK: That's their purpose. Cows.
O'REILLY: But horses are not.
DEREK: Never in this country. Pets, sport...

and it makes no sense simply because you've now separated what animals are 'worth' killing and what ones aren't. Horses are pets, so we can't kill them, but we can kill the lowly cow because that's what they're good for.

I'm not sure how any of that's ok. Plus she says it's 'not in our culture'. Technically America is a melting pot, so we are a mix of cultures, including the ones that view 'pet' animals as a source of food.

Just my opinion

Sam wrote: Okies so we are a melting pot, that much is true....So should we also accept people eating dogs and cats and bugs and monkey brains?

Yes. I am I just as offended by someone who watches NASCAR as I am by their choice of food

Sam wrote: I know many people that if someone hurts their dog...that person that did the killing or hurting of their dog can most likely "cancel Christmas"! or if they survive will think long and hard before harming or killing one again.

As a society we are drawing lines all the time some where, don't we? I mean if people are facing a famine or starving to death is acceptable by anyone's standards. You own a horse would you find it acceptable if some stole him and sold him to the slaughter house? Not being funny it is a serious question as one of the persons interviewed that some horses were no doubt stolen and records are not being kept according to the federal law.

Are we talking legally purchased horses or stolen horses. Two seperate issues

Sam wrote: There may not be much outward appearence to the animal but if it had been treated with drugs that are not safe for humans .....then what happens?

If horses were raised to be and considered a food animal then ok no problem with it, but then again dogs and cats are not raised or considered to be a food animal in this country either. So yes culture does have A LOT to do with it.
What else can be done with the horses? I don't really know, but I do not find serving them as gourmet food in another country to be acceptable.

Why do you care what somebody else puts on their dinner plate? Some people love liver and onions, I do not. I am not going to go around protesting their consumption of liver

Sam wrote: For example of cultural differences, look at cattle in certain parts of India are not considered a food item and are considered to be sacred. We have people from India living here in the States.....where cattle are considered a primary source of food by the majority of people.

Exactly they can accept it. The only people who cannot accept change are inbred rednecks from Georgia.

bravedave wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

buffettbride wrote:So, like, if I go to a Le McDonalds in France do you think I'd be able to order a Le Quarter Horse Pounder with Cheese?

France uses the metric system. They have no idea what a quarter pound is. In France it is a Horse Royale with Cheese.

"Un cheval royale avec fromage, sil vous plait."

sy wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:If horses weren't supposed to be eaten, they wouldn't be made out of meat.

Simply, that's true; and I own a horse, always have, so it's not like I don't have an emotional attachment to them.

Going back to the original article/interview; this part really makes no sense:

DEREK: Personally, I have problems. I don't agree with them on some issues. As humans, we're always evolving. As far as...
O'REILLY: Do you eat meat?
DEREK: Yes. Yes.
O'REILLY: So you eat...
DEREK: And I'll separate this. Horses are not livestock in our country. They are never bred, ever, to be eaten.
O'REILLY: That's interesting.
DEREK: For human consumption.
O'REILLY: So livestock is bred to feed humans — in the food chain.
DEREK: That's their purpose. Cows.
O'REILLY: But horses are not.
DEREK: Never in this country. Pets, sport...

and it makes no sense simply because you've now separated what animals are 'worth' killing and what ones aren't. Horses are pets, so we can't kill them, but we can kill the lowly cow because that's what they're good for.

I'm not sure how any of that's ok. Plus she says it's 'not in our culture'. Technically America is a melting pot, so we are a mix of cultures, including the ones that view 'pet' animals as a source of food.

Just my opinion

and of course, we have the folks who raise pigs as housepets... I don't think they consulted with Bo about her designations..

Sam wrote:Do they still have McDonald's in France?? Remember there was a guy that tried to burn one down a while back and there was a group or something protesting McD's.
Not long ago, the guy that was arrested for burning McD's was denied entrance into the U.S. because of that arrest and all of the activist were yelling about it.

It was there when I was...serving wine, beer.....


I hear The French division of McDonald's has run ads that included a surprising suggestion: Kids shouldn't eat at McDonald's more than once a week.

Dogs, cats , Monkey brains......


who is to say we are right and the rest of the world is wrong. If people want to eat each other, I could really give a rats a$$, as long as they leave me the he!! alone.

As far as horses, the whole freakin' world eats them and like it was said before, you probably already have.

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Cubbie Bear wrote:Dogs, cats , Monkey brains......


who is to say we are right and the rest of the world is wrong. If people want to eat each other, I could really give a rats a$$, as long as they leave me the he!! alone.

As far as horses, the whole freakin' world eats them and like it was said before, you probably already have.

Next thread

Yes I have eaten horsemeat but, that is not the point is it? So you and others posted you don't care about what people eat. Well I suppose I don't care either. I didn't buy the food and I did not have to kill it or clean it for them nor cook it. However if they choose to eat sheep eyes or the genatalia of sea urchins that is their chioice. After there is the old saying about "When in Rome...."

But society and our culture and individuals that do care are the ones judging this.. Examples...Try getting REAL grits up North or scrapple in the South. or a "real" Philly Cheese steak or a Chicago or New York pizza when you are in Podunk Iowa or wherever. Cultures and society are diverse in foods and many other things. Some people like liver and onions some don't as was noted before. Also what you and others seem to overlook is that it is against the law and how the Federal Goverment gets around it. Again the animals are not raised to be consumed by humans and are treated with various drugs and medicines not approved for human use

Pardon me while I may not be a choosey eater when I am am not starving or facing a famine. But it is selling and marketing an animal for food that is not meant to be for food. Want to feed the animals to the starving ok. I don't know about horses being eaten all over the world but in certain places yes it is accepted. That does mean because it is accepted there that it should be accepted everywhere...

I am very aware of what conservation means and what must be done to maintain a viable and sustanable ecosystem enviromental balance in nature and game and land management.
I am not a tree hugger or anything like that. I hunt.....I fish... It is NOT about saving everything like the PETA radicals ecoterrorists want.

I am not a horse nut. I think horses are great creatures though. IMNSHO and apparently the vast majority of our culture and various other cultures around the world the horse is not an ordinary food item but given the choice of starvation most people would eat it.

You said you don't care if people ate other people as long as it was not you... what about your family or your keets or your wife? Cannabilism is a very taboo matter in most places....As someone pointed out it is better than going to a landfill...I suppose it is....and like anything else in life, that does not mean I have to like it

This seems to fit......

ToplessRideFL wrote:This seems to fit......

Regarding the 3rd bullet point, grill it up baby.

LIPH wrote: Regarding the 3rd bullet point, grill it up baby.

I actually went looking for that pic...but couldnt find it...

Eat it, don't beat it