You Have All Missed The Point..

[jbfins]

I don't think that I have ever started a topic, so I am really going out on a limb here, but with all of the complaining about ticket prices I feel compelled to say something that I think most are overlooking.

Many are complaining about ticket prices, but I do not think that that is your real problem. What it comes down to is that you do not feel that the show, at whatever price for your applicable venue, is worth it.

Let me ask everyone who is complaining about prices one thing. What if Jimmy said the set list was going to be changed dramatically, that you would be guaranteed great seats next to other diehard fans in the pavillion, as opposed to people in the pavillion who got corporate sponsor seats, and would not have to go through ticket bastard for seats, all for the current asking prices; would you go?

I am not mad at JB for the prices, he deserves every single penny. EVERY SINGLE ONE. What I am dissapoined with is the fact that the product no longer justifies the price. That I do not want to go to a show and what is worse, even if I did want to, it is way too hard to get tickets. That is what upsets me, and it is what I think really upsets all of you.

But again, I do not think that it is fair to blame JB. If he can sell out a venue at higher prices, then he should.

[ChrTh]

But again, I do not think that it is fair to blame JB. If he can sell out a venue at higher prices, then he should.

I don't blame JB. A lot of money goes to the sponsors, venues, etc. And you're 100% correct: it's called Supply/Demand; Charlotte sold out all their $126 tickets, so why shouldn't they charge that amount?

The thing is, though, at some point in the near future Jimmy's going to look across the audience and realize that there's a lot of new faces out there. And he's going to wonder where the old faces have gone.

On the plus side, he won't have to worry about beach balls as much...

[FinzEast]

IMHO

I don't thing the prices, even via TM, were too outrageous.

It seems like mostly people are complaining about how absolutely fast he's is selling out venues and then how even faster the "scalpers" have their for sale signs out, and usually for way more then face value.

[ChrTh]

The real sticker shock came for the Charlotte people, I reckon; we haven't had him outdoors for several years. Last year, Coliseum tickets were doable for less than 60 apiece. For many of us (including the Columbia SC folks who were denied a show and thus need to go to Charlotte or Atlanta), that's a doubling of the price.

[Sam]

I don't think that I have ever started a topic, so I am really going out on a limb here, but with all of the complaining about ticket prices I feel compelled to say something that I think most are overlooking.

Many are complaining about ticket prices, but I do not think that that is your real problem. What it comes down to is that you do not feel that the show, at whatever price for your applicable venue, is worth it.

Let me ask everyone who is complaining about prices one thing. What if Jimmy said the set list was going to be changed dramatically, that you would be guaranteed great seats next to other diehard fans in the pavillion, as opposed to people in the pavillion who got corporate sponsor seats, and would not have to go through ticket bastard for seats, all for the current asking prices; would you go?

I am not mad at JB for the prices, he deserves every single penny. EVERY SINGLE ONE. What I am dissapoined with is the fact that the product no longer justifies the price. That I do not want to go to a show and what is worse, even if I did want to, it is way too hard to get tickets. That is what upsets me, and it is what I think really upsets all of you.

But again, I do not think that it is fair to blame JB. If he can sell out a venue at higher prices, then he should.

DUDE.. just what are you smoking???

What part of too much is too much. The straw has broke the camel's back!
I don't care who it is or how good they are. I am not going to pay that sort of price. You want to and enjoy it . Then GO FOR IT! ENJOY IT!
I just hope they at least use some lube for your benefit or at least kiss you when they are done.

It is not about JB making money..It is the difference in mortgage or other payments and feeding keets and selves and other bills. If your opinion is that people that can't afford the tickets don't need to be there .... then so much for parrothead love ...Why the hell not ... seems JB has forgotten about who and what put him where he is today. there is a difference between sex and rape as much as there is a difference between profit and ripoff. Some people knowingly allow themselves to be ripped off. Fortunately at least some other people are smarter than that.

[karat]

I don't thing the prices, even via TM, were too outrageous.

It seems like mostly people are complaining about how absolutely fast he's is selling out venues and then how even faster the "scalpers" have their for sale signs out, and usually for way more then face value.

Sure the prices are high.....Sure there are MANY people out there that will pay the price. I, myself, may think twice if I want to pay the price (I scored lawn seats and did not have to mortgage anything). But in the end I may go see the show. Someone in here said supply and demand.... Some can say being a Parrothead / Fan of Buffet can be like an addiction..... how ?

Well who ordered beads for this spring/summer shows? Before knowing if they had tickets or not? *hand raised* Who planned thier Saturday morning around getting tickets *hand raised*

Another addiction question(s)..... Who here are smokers? (not I) Who here continues to smoke even though the packs are up to $5+? Who here said I pay the price because I enjoy them.....

Enjoyment...addiction, whatever you want to call it. If we want it bad enough we will go get it.... If people are in demand for this item and the Marketing Departments know this....people will pay for it.

Now I am not saying that those who are complaining about the prices - don't enjoy Buffett any less... as we get older our values change, as the world gets older the price of anything changes....

So it depends on what you want.....hell I have my first concert ticket from Blue Oyster Cult & Michael Stanley Band.. $18.00 and there were 3 bands playing. Was the price high in 1979-80? My guess I bet it was a little....

Sorry to sound like a Sunday Morning Comentary...but it is just...it happens, you know?

[Marnin Grita Guy]

Unfortunately, It works something like this: Agents set up the dates even if Jimmy played for free you still need to pay the band, roadcrew, sound company (which includes rental) local IATSE members, site, (yes they make money but they have to pay for clean-up and power so that is a BIG part of ticket prices) advertisement, all sorts of liability and insurance bullcrap........BLAH,BLAH,BLAH!

I worked for a small city IATSE in the early 80's and was making over $10.00 an hour plus being fed at all times, Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner!

Backstage passes, even the ones for the locals working the show all cost money.

Now. If Jimmy decides he wants to take control of all these areas to lower ticket prices, I think he will decide to just give up after one year.

You have to think about what economic impact a single concert by any major perfomer has on an area. One night can mean over a millon dollars when you talk about neighboring restaurants, hotels, bars but the promoters and venues want to make sure they get their's first.

If you want lower prices do not post here, do not go to Buffett concerts, do everything you can to make him less popular, then sob when he does call it quits!

[sy]

This discussion keeps going on as though a)JB has something to do with the ticket prices, and B) JB is the only show that costs this much.

I say that because with all the concerts and shows I've been to over the past couple of years, 100+ bucks is about par. I'm also referring to big shows, and not local venues and artists. Even Shania Twain a couple of years ago cost me 110 a ticket, and that was upper 1st level.

Yes, it's a shame that the prices are what a lot consider expensive, but then it's also a shame a movie is now over 10.00, gas is 2.31 a gallon, and the price for nearly everything has gone up.

Yes, it stinks that prices are high. It stinks for everything, but JB is certainly not the only show out there with 100+ ticket prices, and the others sell out just like his do.

[Lightning Bolt]

Sy's right. Complaining is pointless.
It's really just like anything else in this life that you choose to spend money on.
You either want it and really need it... or it's just another passing fancy

I really wanted to drive a new truck...so I needed to save $ accordingly. Dodge didn't overprice it. That was the going price. I bought my truck.

I really want to go to Irvine to see Jimmy, and I really needed to budget my $ accordingly. I paid the going price (face value pavilion), and now... I'm going!

[bumper]

I would think he would have some input on ticket pricing if he was interested in doing so.

its a value thing....getting bang for the buck..obviously that threshold is different for different people

[Touch O Parrotdise]

i'd shell out for the tickets..but it's everything else now that has made it impossible to go..alot of people here travel great distances to see jimmy..it's alot of money to shell out for a show now.. what cost me last year about $400 would have cost me $700 for a little over a day.. if he sells out.. awesome.. i'll go to my one show this year,maybe wait on a vacation so i can work a florida or vegas show in...

[bananaman]

That was a good analogy comparing Jimmy to smoking. Plenty of people still gripe about paying $5 for a pack of smokes but their addiction is bigger than their wallet so they light up. If your addiction to Jimmy is that strong, then pay the asking price, or sit home and go through withdrawls. As for me, I'll be in serious detox on June 4th.

[puckhead]

Lawn tickets were only $36.00 (that really isn't too bad).

I think that it is funny that people complain about spending $100+ on tickets but at the same time feel that they are too good to sit in the lawn (???).

Have we become "Buffett snobs"?

I read posts on here complaining about set-lists, real fans vs casual fans, other muscians that others may or may not like and I am beginning to get turned off by this chat site. Why do we complain so much?

It is almost like we complain just to complain: e.g. Many of us have posted that we wish Jimmy would change the concert set-up and song list for some time now, but when it looks like he is (by removing the horn section) we complain about that (???).


IMO, Buffett (or who ever sets the ticket prices) has provided a means bywhich most fans can afford to see him, by pricing lawn seats at $36.00,

If you don't want to sit in the lawn, then that is your decision, but please don't say that Buffett out-priced his fans, becuase the price of lawn seats have not gone up that much over the past 3 - 4 years.

[spartan1979]

How can anybody say JB doesn't have a hand in setting the prices? If he doesn't then why are all the venues the same price? Is it colusion among the operators or JB? I'm more likely to believe the simpler answer.

If JB isn't charging the venues more and they've all raised their prices and all that extra profit is going to them, there's be hell to pay next year when they're negotiating for a show. I doubt that's gonna happen.

[LIPH]

I'll probably get slammed for this but ...

[On soapbox]
I can't believe how worked up people get about not being able to get tickets to a concert. They come on here, start threads blasting ticketmaster, cursing the scalpers and brokers who get so many tickets, slamming Jimmy Buffett for charging so much, one person even tossed the word "rape" out there, which is probably the most offensice thing I've seen yet. It's a f**king concert!! I was completely shut out on all the shows that went on sale yesterday. I didn't complain, I didn't rant. I got over it. I'll do other things with my time and money. A lot of people, who I assume are adults, need to grow up and stop acting like a bunch of spoiled little brats.
[Stepping off soapbox]

fire away

[SMLCHNG]

Thank you, Larry.

[ragtopW]

I'll probably get slammed for this but ...

[On soapbox]
I can't believe how worked up people get about not being able to get tickets to a concert. They come on here, start threads blasting ticketmaster, cursing the scalpers and brokers who get so many tickets, slamming Jimmy Buffett for charging so much, one person even tossed the word "rape" out there, which is probably the most offensice thing I've seen yet. It's a f**king concert!! I was completely shut out on all the shows that went on sale yesterday. I didn't complain, I didn't rant. I got over it. I'll do other things with my time and money. A lot of people, who I assume are adults, need to grow up and stop acting like a bunch of spoiled little brats.
[Stepping off soapbox]

fire away

Larry I am sorry you got shut out..

But you are right..


Wanna talk to a few of my Customers now???

[The Lost Manatee]

I'll probably get slammed for this but ...

[On soapbox]
I can't believe how worked up people get about not being able to get tickets to a concert. They come on here, start threads blasting ticketmaster, cursing the scalpers and brokers who get so many tickets, slamming Jimmy Buffett for charging so much, one person even tossed the word "rape" out there, which is probably the most offensice thing I've seen yet. It's a f**king concert!! I was completely shut out on all the shows that went on sale yesterday. I didn't complain, I didn't rant. I got over it. I'll do other things with my time and money. A lot of people, who I assume are adults, need to grow up and stop acting like a bunch of spoiled little brats.
[Stepping off soapbox]



BRAVO!!!!!! I agree wholeheartedly!
fire away

[bananaman]

I'll probably get slammed for this but ...

[On soapbox]
I can't believe how worked up people get about not being able to get tickets to a concert. They come on here, start threads blasting ticketmaster, cursing the scalpers and brokers who get so many tickets, slamming Jimmy Buffett for charging so much, one person even tossed the word "rape" out there, which is probably the most offensice thing I've seen yet. It's a f**king concert!! I was completely shut out on all the shows that went on sale yesterday. I didn't complain, I didn't rant. I got over it. I'll do other things with my time and money. A lot of people, who I assume are adults, need to grow up and stop acting like a bunch of spoiled little brats.
[Stepping off soapbox]

SLAM SLAM SLAM!!!! Just kidding. There are good points to what everyone is saying but mostly I think they just want somewhere to vent. Ultimately we all want to go (some more than others, hence the different levels of frustration) and given the chance we all would. Just remember, as long as there are more fans than tickets, someone will always go home mad. By the way, I got shutout yesterday for the first time in 7 years. Damn right I was p*** but I got over it. Life goes on and apparently so will the "complaining" threads as long as high ticket prices and Ticketmaster exist. Just my two cents.

[Brown Eyed Girl]

Larry, you'll get no flames from me, only hugs.


Puckhead, sometimes the lawn issue isn't about being a Buffett snob or too good for the lawn, it's about physical issues. I am fortunate that we got uncovered pavilion for Irvine. One year later after breaking my leg, I don't think I could safely and comfortably stand on an unstable incline with drunks pushing folks and tripping over folks, even with my BN friends doing their best to protect me. My foot/ankle are just too weak. If lawn was the only way to go, then I would have sucked it up and dealt with it for one show and hoped for the best. But other folks might really need to have seats for whatever physical/health reason. Just something to remember.

And yes, there are some folks who don't want to be out on the lawn due to some of the stuff going on out there.

Of course the real price of a lawn ticket is not $36.00, but $50+ when you add in the fees. Doable for most, but perhaps not desirable.