This is going to far

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » March 22, 2006 2:55 pm

Next thing ya know they'll be banning smoking outside. Oops, too late, they've already done that.

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » March 22, 2006 2:56 pm

East Texas Parrothead wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
East Texas Parrothead wrote:The other issue: The place down the road has all the drunks and gambling.

Were THEY hit?

No. Not one arrest there.

Something's rotten in the piney woods.

It's like one person in law enforcement told me off the record:

No one grows up wanting to be a TABC agent. It's where bad cops go to die.
or somebody made the right payment (or missed one)...
Cha-CHING! We have a winner.

I need good guys to be good guys and bad guys to be bad guys. This crap makes me want to go live alone in a shack on a beach. Evil people suckk.

pbans · Post by **pbans** » March 22, 2006 2:58 pm

LIPH wrote:
pbans wrote:I will tell you about something we did in a bar one night.....
I had to stop reading after that sentence. There are bars in Utah? I guess it's true, you really do learn something new every day.

You're never too old to learn.........
and yes, there are bars in Utah.....just not as many as other places!

Tequila Revenge · Post by **Tequila Revenge** » March 22, 2006 2:59 pm

Thank you Texas for making California look good!!

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » March 22, 2006 3:03 pm

East Texas Parrothead wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
East Texas Parrothead wrote:The other issue: The place down the road has all the drunks and gambling.

Were THEY hit?

No. Not one arrest there.

Something's rotten in the piney woods.

It's like one person in law enforcement told me off the record:

No one grows up wanting to be a TABC agent. It's where bad cops go to die.
or somebody made the right payment (or missed one)...
Cha-CHING! We have a winner.

Here in CMH (one of the suburban jurisdictions), there was a brothel operating for years. This, in a town with a population of about 20k inside the city limits. Regular stream of customers in high-end vehicles taking up parking spots and being a nuisance in the neighbourhood. Yet supposedly, despite several attempts to infiltrate the place (in a state where it has been (and probably still is) legal to engage in limited illegal behaviour (such as completing a sexual act) to make a vice bust.)

Suddenly, after years of operation on a busy thoroughfare, with numerous people daily going in and out of a building that was non-descript and lacking any reason for that kind of traffic (think brick office-like building with just one set of windows in the front, off to the side of the door), they get busted....

Supposedly one of the high-rollers' wives found his credit card statement and blew the whistle....

I'd say that someone missed a payment, and suddenly it was pretty easy to put the dots together if someone was actually paying attention.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » March 22, 2006 3:24 pm

East Texas Parrothead wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
East Texas Parrothead wrote:The other issue: The place down the road has all the drunks and gambling.

Were THEY hit?

No. Not one arrest there.

Something's rotten in the piney woods.

It's like one person in law enforcement told me off the record:

No one grows up wanting to be a TABC agent. It's where bad cops go to die.
or somebody made the right payment (or missed one)...
Cha-CHING! We have a winner.

and thus we have the politics of East Texas - it's not how straight you are but how much you pay to stay in business. Been around forever.

bravedave · Post by **bravedave** » March 22, 2006 3:53 pm

There's a jurisdiction in Northern Virginia (Reston?) that took Public Intoxication enforcement to a new low.
The police went into bars and conducted sobriety tests on patrons. Losers take a ride.
If you can't get drunk in a bar, where can you?

CadiRita · Post by **CadiRita** » March 22, 2006 4:33 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
Agents and officers said the operation represented an effort to reduce drunken driving.
one would think that to do that, the patron would have to have demonstrated an effort to drive. A good defense attorney is going to love that quote
in a lot of places, just being in possession of your car keys counts as intent to drive.....

I think this is a bit much.... stake out the lot, arrest them when they get in their cars, fine. But inside? Who's to say they weren't going to call a cab?

Exactly! Wouldn't you think you'd need to hold onto your keys for when the cab brings you home? Would be good to have your house key on you, which generally is along side your car key.

Whenever we go out, I always offer to be the LDD. Everyone knows I'll be good, especially our bartenders. My husband & his buddy are big boys and can hold onto their own dang keys. I'm not their mother and I'm not going to have a handbag full of other people's keys. If they lose them, that's their problem. But it doesn't mean that they intend to drive home.

I always drive us safely home, then back up to get their cars the next day.

phjrsaunt · Post by **phjrsaunt** » March 22, 2006 4:36 pm

bravedave wrote:There's a jurisdiction in Northern Virginia (Reston?) that took Public Intoxication enforcement to a new low.
The police went into bars and conducted sobriety tests on patrons. Losers take a ride.
If you can't get drunk in a bar, where can you?

This whole thread reminds me of the routine that comedian Ron White (of Blue Collar Comeday fame) does about being kicked out of a bar, then being arrested for being drunk in public.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » March 22, 2006 4:39 pm

CadiRita wrote:Exactly! Wouldn't you think you'd need to hold onto your keys for when the cab brings you home? Would be good to have your house key on you, which generally is along side your car key.

I keep my house key and car key separate. Not becuase of something like this though, I locked my keys in the car once. If I do it again, at least I can get in the house and get the extra car key.

CadiRita · Post by **CadiRita** » March 22, 2006 4:40 pm

phjrsaunt wrote:
bravedave wrote:There's a jurisdiction in Northern Virginia (Reston?) that took Public Intoxication enforcement to a new low.
The police went into bars and conducted sobriety tests on patrons. Losers take a ride.
If you can't get drunk in a bar, where can you?
This whole thread reminds me of the routine that comedian Ron White (of Blue Collar Comeday fame) does about being kicked out of a bar, then being arrested for being drunk in public.

Drunk...in...publik...

surfpirate · Post by **surfpirate** » March 22, 2006 4:41 pm

ph4ever wrote:I used to live in Irving. The cops there were notorious for their bad attitudes and low handed tactics.

I'm sure lawyers all over the DFW area are clammoring at this one. The bars in Irving are also "private" establishments. You have to have a membership of some sort to drink there. So the officiers are in a private establishment, giving field sobriety tests and arresting people IN PRIVATE ESTABLISHMENTS. All on the assumption that they are going to drive home. Irving does have taxis.

I'm in Irving, TX about once every 6-8 weeks on business, and have frequented numerous bars (though mostly Cool River in the Hidden Ridge area of Irving). I'm not so sure about the "private establishment" statement made here. I've never seen that. I've never been asked to "join" any bar in Irving I've been to.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » March 22, 2006 5:41 pm

surfpirate wrote:
ph4ever wrote:I used to live in Irving. The cops there were notorious for their bad attitudes and low handed tactics.

I'm sure lawyers all over the DFW area are clammoring at this one. The bars in Irving are also "private" establishments. You have to have a membership of some sort to drink there. So the officiers are in a private establishment, giving field sobriety tests and arresting people IN PRIVATE ESTABLISHMENTS. All on the assumption that they are going to drive home. Irving does have taxis.
I'm in Irving, TX about once every 6-8 weeks on business, and have frequented numerous bars (though mostly Cool River in the Hidden Ridge area of Irving). I'm not so sure about the "private establishment" statement made here. I've never seen that. I've never been asked to "join" any bar in Irving I've been to.

It could have easily changed since I lived there but you had to have a unicard or something of that sort if you went to the bars off I-35 and Beltline over near the mall. The area that you're talking about is off 114 and more in the Las Colinas area. Some of the laws and rules in that area change very frequently. I know I lived not far from there and I was 1/10th a mile from the Las Colinas city limit.

Quiet and Shy · Post by **Quiet and Shy** » March 22, 2006 6:18 pm

Wow...this is the best use of Irving police resources? I'll bet it ends up as a big mess...as I'd doubt many of those arrests will actually lead to convictions and will therefore have been a big waste of time and $s. I'm all for keeping drunk drivers off the road, but there are smart and dumb ways to do many things.

Post by **SMLCHNG** » March 22, 2006 9:27 pm

Uh Oh.

Elrod and I are drinking in our livingroom.

Elrod · Post by **Elrod** » March 22, 2006 9:50 pm

SMLCHNG wrote:Uh Oh. Elrod and I are drinking in our livingroom.

... a thousand miles from Irving.

txaggirl91 · Post by **txaggirl91** » March 22, 2006 9:54 pm

Elrod wrote:
SMLCHNG wrote:Uh Oh. Elrod and I are drinking in our livingroom.
... a thousand miles from Irving.

the cops are gonna come get you...

txaggirl91 · Post by **txaggirl91** » March 22, 2006 9:58 pm

TABC has cracked down on drinking in college station, especially at the dixie chicken (infamous bar in town)

1. you cannot dunk your aggie ring in a full pitcher of beer - but you can go to other bars in town and do it.

2. you have to have 2 people over the age of 21 at the bar to buy a pitcher of beer. again, at other places, you can buy one by yourself.

they were also walking around the chicken last week when i was there carding people....

Coconuts · Post by **Coconuts** » March 22, 2006 10:04 pm

txaggirl91 wrote:1. you cannot dunk your aggie ring in a full pitcher of beer - but you can go to other bars in town and do it.

What does that mean?

txaggirl91 · Post by **txaggirl91** » March 22, 2006 10:07 pm

Coconuts wrote:
txaggirl91 wrote:1. you cannot dunk your aggie ring in a full pitcher of beer - but you can go to other bars in town and do it.
What does that mean?

once you are a senior at texas a&m you can order your senior ring. once you get it, a tradition (we are rich in traditions) is to go to the dixie chicken and drop it in a pictcher of beer. then you have to drink the pitcher to get it out.