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LaTda wrote:

bravedave wrote:Hypothetical Situation:

The citizens of India compiled a petition of millions of names calling upon the U.S. government to end the inhumane slaughter of cattle.

Discuss...


[wiping worms of can opener]

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anyway, that's part of a [debatably wacky] belief.

Killing the baby seals is pure vanity.

We put every single piece of the cow to use, not just its fur

bad corrolation there, even though you got so excited you made a typo

Oh & Gary I applaud you on speaking how you feel

I have to agree with Mike on this! No comaparison. Too many people in India do eat beef. I was told it is only certain cows are sacred..... Also look how many of them are here in this country.....no problem with it. Besides if they did, I am sure they would be voicing an opinion about it....

i just wrote a really long post in response to Wino...but i realized its not worth it. some people get it, some dont. we call them "the other half"

therefore, im done with this.

balcony girls wrote:hmmm . .gives a whole new image to " Crosby, SEALS and Nash " . .! !

think they bounced balls on their noses. . ! ! ? ?

Crosby has been known to bark at reporters... tho it makes you wonder if the deal with Melissa Ethridge and her partner to sire a child was "sealed with a kiss..."

sy wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

phjrsaunt wrote:Literal ninnies.

Isn't name-calling against the BN rules?

Ooh...calling out the mod on breaking the rules.

I think you seal-ed your fate with that one

someone took it to a whole new level, above the operational ceiling..

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:i just wrote a really long post in response to Wino...but i realized its not worth it. some people get it, some dont. we call them "the other half"

therefore, im done with this.

if you're referring to the Buffett Experience...I don't imagine you even come close to Garry's...

and if you're referring to the original subject of this thread...it's probably just as well...

Oh look...

a cheese-covered spork.. left in the apple pie.

I realize I'm very late to the party here, but I feel compelled to add my two cents. My apologies to all if I end up repeating something someone else said above (I tried to read the last 8 pages - really!).

I can understand how folks would be opposed to this kind of thing - especially after viewing and reading a lot of the internet info on this issue. I've seen some pretty disturbing stuff on various anti-hunt sites.

However, I do believe that much of the info is simply outdated, incorrect and/or blatantly distorted by folks with an agenda. The seal hunt protest has been going on a long time (decades) and in that time the Canadian government has passed and enforced numerous regulations and quotas regarding the seal hunt and its methods.

I suppose some would call it propaganda, but their own Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) has a site which tries to dispel some of the misinformation circulating about the seal hunt.

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/seal-phoque/myth_e.htm

If you enjoy a good steak, pork chop or chicken wing, then you don't have much room to complain about the seal hunt. For most folks including meat in their diet is about as necessary to human survival as wearing an expensive seal fur coat or driving a BMW to work (ie it isn't). The slaughter of animals for human consumption is not a pretty sight no matter which animal or where it takes place.

Although I'm not one (I enjoy my steak rare), I really do think vegetarians occupy the moral high ground in debates like this. When the rest of us complain, we just look like hypocrites.

Cheers.
No BNers were meant to be harmed or injured or insulted in the creation of this post.

maybe not so much the pups are killed but the manner in which they are killed....would a bullet to the head sooth the anxiety over a club to the head?

flyboy55 wrote: If you enjoy a good steak, pork chop or chicken wing, then you don't have much room to complain about the seal hunt. For most folks including meat in their diet is about as necessary to human survival as wearing an expensive seal fur coat or driving a BMW to work (ie it isn't). The slaughter of animals for human consumption is not a pretty sight no matter which animal or where it takes place.

Agreed, but these animals aren't being slaughtered for human consumption. All the goverment did was *encourage* the consumption of the meat, they can't enforce it. These animals are slaughtered for their pelts.

The indigenous people may eat seal meat, but they do not make up the entire population of those on this "commercial" hunt.

I think there's little besides propaganda on both sides of this, and flyboy55 made several good points.

But they're not just bonking the seals on the heads- they're driving a small stake through the animal's brain- it's gruesome, but also fast and efficient, and at least meant to be painless.

Brown Eyed Girl wrote:

flyboy55 wrote: If you enjoy a good steak, pork chop or chicken wing, then you don't have much room to complain about the seal hunt. For most folks including meat in their diet is about as necessary to human survival as wearing an expensive seal fur coat or driving a BMW to work (ie it isn't). The slaughter of animals for human consumption is not a pretty sight no matter which animal or where it takes place.

Agreed, but these animals aren't being slaughtered for human consumption. All the goverment did was *encourage* the consumption of the meat, they can't enforce it. These animals are slaughtered for their pelts.

The indigenous people may eat seal meat, but they do not make up the entire population of those on this "commercial" hunt.

I meant "consumption" in the broadest sense, as in using any or all of the slaughtered animal. I agree that fur coats for NYC socialites are an idiotic reason to kill any animal - the Carrie Bradshaws of the world should go and club their own seals.

You are also right about indigenous people - they are entitled to subsistence hunting and as such are a very small percentage of the seal hunt. The hunt in question is the commercial hunt which has been going on for centuries.

I wouldn't defend cruelty against animals. While working my way through college long ago, I worked in a meat packing plant. To my young eyes the place was hell on earth. These animals know they're going to die - they can smell death and they make a lot of noise to show it!

They knock the hogs unconscious by forcing them on a conveyor belt through a carbon monoxide chamber. Immediately after, they are strung up by the heels, dipped into a scalding tank and then their throats are slit by some poor sap who has to wield that knife for an 8 hour shift. You wouldn't believe how many supposedly "dead" hogs jumped up and tried to escape in the middle of this process.

And yet I still eat meat, although I buy it from a local farmer who does all of the above himself and raises the animals with as much kindness as he can muster.

I just don't think folks should get upset about the seal hunt and then sit down to a nice juicy steak as if that is somehow different.

Cheers.
I'm not hungry anymore.

I posted this earlier- my grandfather was a butcher (and one of the biggest animal lovers you'd ever meet). It was nothing for me to spend my summer breaks in the slaughterhouse watching the whole process- but he also shot them in a certain spot to make sure they were dead before he did anything else.

And as far as "as much kindness as he can muster"- in my experience, that's an awful lot.

Coconuts wrote:I think there's little besides propaganda on both sides of this, and flyboy55 made several good points.

But they're not just bonking the seals on the heads- they're driving a small stake through the animal's brain- it's gruesome, but also fast and efficient, and at least meant to be painless.

I dunno Coco..when I had to do that to my frog in science so I could dissect him it was anything but painless and he did NOT die right away. Those clubbers better have better aim than I did!

Needless to say, I almost passed out.

flyboy55 wrote:Cheers.
I'm not hungry anymore.

I'm not either.

Let's go drankin instead!

I'm glad we never had to do that.

And that was the "meant to be" part of the statement. I hope it is in most cases.

bumper wrote:maybe not so much the pups are killed but the manner in which they are killed....would a bullet to the head sooth the anxiety over a club to the head?

NO!
There's NO reason whatsoever to kill these animals.

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:i just wrote a really long post in response to Wino...but i realized its not worth it. some people get it, some dont. we call them "the other half"

therefore, im done with this.

I wish you and the other two enlightened ones here would send me a P.M. and EXPLAIN to me how I "don't get it."

I SEE NO REASON TO KILL THESE ANIMALS!
If that means I don't "get it" ( ), I'll PROUDLY claim to be a member of the other/better half.

I guess, however, I should be thankful for people like you.
You all keep me from quitting drinking.

Wino you know wrote:

bumper wrote:maybe not so much the pups are killed but the manner in which they are killed....would a bullet to the head sooth the anxiety over a club to the head?

NO!
There's NO reason whatsoever to kill these animals.

In your opinion....fortunately you're minding your own business and doing nothing to alter to stop the practice

bumper wrote:

Wino you know wrote:

bumper wrote:maybe not so much the pups are killed but the manner in which they are killed....would a bullet to the head sooth the anxiety over a club to the head?

NO!
There's NO reason whatsoever to kill these animals.

In your opinion....fortunately you're minding your own business and doing nothing to alter to stop the practice

Wanna bet?

Wino you know wrote:

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:i just wrote a really long post in response to Wino...but i realized its not worth it. some people get it, some dont. we call them "the other half"

therefore, im done with this.

I wish you and the other two enlightened ones here would send me a P.M. and EXPLAIN to me how I "don't get it."

I SEE NO REASON TO KILL THESE ANIMALS!
If that means I don't "get it" ( ), I'll PROUDLY claim to be a member of the other/better half.

I guess, however, I should be thankful for people like you.
You all keep me from quitting drinking.

i was out of line when i said that. i apologize. i posted that after a few drinks.