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information..........


It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old
news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra
hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God an! d country getting the third
degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend
close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience,
"Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't
pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple
of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are
you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of",
Ollie answered.


"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin
team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the
earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was
shown of the clip.



By the way, that senator was Al Gore!


Also:
Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The
Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo
agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release
so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their
hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary
of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be
released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by
flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was
reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists
were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.

Seen it. Not true.
But great Republican propiganda.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp

I heart Snopes.com. E-mail forwards are the 21st century equivalent of someone standing on a street corner ranting. But they're worse in one way, because--like chain letters--they get spread around the world again and again.

Thank goodness Snopes is around to debunk so much of this.

I think Col. North must have written that little item himself! The man is an unapologetic felon who should have done significant prison time.

As for Osama bin Laden, back in 1987 he was OUR point man against the Soviets in Afgahnistan. If anything, it would probably be closer to the actual truth to say that Col. Oliver North met and shook hands with OBL back in those days and gave him a bunch of MANPADS (shoulder-launched missiles) to fight the Russsians.

But snopes does make for funny reading.

Cheers.

smacky wrote:I heart Snopes.com. E-mail forwards are the 21st century equivalent of someone standing on a street corner ranting. But they're worse in one way, because--like chain letters--they get spread around the world again and again.

Thank goodness Snopes is around to debunk so much of this.

Tell me about it... the witless bastard who started the idea to boycott Target because it was supposedly owned by the French needs to be taken out and beaten with a brick in a sack; and video of said beating with a voiceover as to why it was done attached to said email...

I use snopes.com a lot, and I am always referring friends to it!

ejr wrote:I use snopes.com a lot, and I am always referring friends to it!

Snopes.com: "Fighting idiocy one chain-letter at a time"

flyboy55 wrote:I think Col. North must have written that little item himself! The man is an unapologetic felon who should have done significant prison time.

OK

flyboy55 wrote:As for Osama bin Laden, back in 1987 he was OUR point man against the Soviets in Afgahnistan. If anything, it would probably be closer to the actual truth to say that Col. Oliver North met and shook hands with OBL back in those days and gave him a bunch of MANPADS (shoulder-launched missiles) to fight the Russsians.

Untrue. OBL was never OUR pointman. He was also a little late to the party to enjoy our largess directly. And most of our stuff went through the Paks. Very seldom did our people get face-to-face with the Afghans for delivery of modern weaponry.

One congressman from Texas who was instrumental in securing funding for the Muj did get his picture taken with them using a AA missile. I forget his name.

Edited to add: Charlie Wilson was his name.
Read Charlie Wilson's War

SORT OF on the same subject, I heard on the radio this morning that Charlie Sheen thinks 9/11 was a farce: I used to like him too!

http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTr ... ormat=text

From the Boston Herald:

Charlie Sheen doesn’t buy 9/11 spin
By Inside Track
Thursday, March 23, 2006

Charlie Sheen, following in the footsteps of his politically outspoken father, Martin Sheen, has joined the chorus of conspiracy theorists who don’t believe the official version of events surrounding 9/11.

The estranged husband of Denise Richards, who is better known for his affinity for prostitutes and gambling than his Homeland Security credentials, told the GCN Radio Network he doesn’t buy the government’s explanation that “19 amateurs with box cutters (took) over four commercial airliners and (hit) 75 percent of their targets.”

The “Two and a Half Men” star, who was shooting his former sitcom “Spin City” the morning the World Trade Center towers fell, said he was immediately suspicious about the official reason given for the buildings’ collapse. After watching in horror as the South Tower was hit, he said to his brother, “call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition?”

Sheen pointed out that eyewitnesses recounted hearing what sounded like bombs and explosions coming from the basement levels of the buildings and discounted the theory that the damage to the towers’ lobbies was the result of fireballs traveling 110 feet down elevator shafts.

The father of two also questioned whether a plane actually hit the Pentagon and how President George Bush was able to see the first plane hit the north tower, when no live footage of that incident was carried.

“I guess one of the perks of being president is that you get access to TV channels that don’t exist in the known universe,” the actor-turned-pseudo-intellect quipped.

“It is up to us to reveal the truth,” Sheen asserted. “We owe it to everybody’s life who was drastically altered, horrifically that day and forever. We owe it to them to uncover what happened.”

Excuse us if we don’t exactly feel that Charlie’s the man for that job!

comemonday wrote:SORT OF on the same subject, I heard on the radio this morning that Charlie Sheen thinks 9/11 was a farce: I used to like him too!

http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTr ... ormat=text

From the Boston Herald:

Charlie Sheen doesn’t buy 9/11 spin
By Inside Track
Thursday, March 23, 2006

Charlie Sheen, following in the footsteps of his politically outspoken father, Martin Sheen, has joined the chorus of conspiracy theorists who don’t believe the official version of events surrounding 9/11.

The estranged husband of Denise Richards, who is better known for his affinity for prostitutes and gambling than his Homeland Security credentials, told the GCN Radio Network he doesn’t buy the government’s explanation that “19 amateurs with box cutters (took) over four commercial airliners and (hit) 75 percent of their targets.”

The “Two and a Half Men” star, who was shooting his former sitcom “Spin City” the morning the World Trade Center towers fell, said he was immediately suspicious about the official reason given for the buildings’ collapse. After watching in horror as the South Tower was hit, he said to his brother, “call me insane, but did it sorta look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition?”

Sheen pointed out that eyewitnesses recounted hearing what sounded like bombs and explosions coming from the basement levels of the buildings and discounted the theory that the damage to the towers’ lobbies was the result of fireballs traveling 110 feet down elevator shafts.

The father of two also questioned whether a plane actually hit the Pentagon and how President George Bush was able to see the first plane hit the north tower, when no live footage of that incident was carried.

“I guess one of the perks of being president is that you get access to TV channels that don’t exist in the known universe,” the actor-turned-pseudo-intellect quipped.

“It is up to us to reveal the truth,” Sheen asserted. “We owe it to everybody’s life who was drastically altered, horrifically that day and forever. We owe it to them to uncover what happened.”

Excuse us if we don’t exactly feel that Charlie’s the man for that job!

It's not like the reporter is using the article to relay facts, devoid of any personal agenda either...

I'm glad something like Snopes exists in order to debunk all the crap out there but I find it incredibily frustrating when pointing out to someone that no matter how many times you forward that Bill Gates e-mail, you will still win NOTHING, and they still believe it.

Jahfin wrote:I'm glad something like Snopes exists in order to debunk all the crap out there but I find it incredibily frustrating when pointing out to someone that no matter how many times you forward that Bill Gates e-mail, you will still win NOTHING, and they still believe it.

I hear ya. Some of the people that send it SEEM intelligent enough in everyday life-- I just had to say... do you SERIOUSLY think you're going to be getting money from Bill Gates by forwarding emails??

comemonday wrote:

Jahfin wrote:I'm glad something like Snopes exists in order to debunk all the crap out there but I find it incredibily frustrating when pointing out to someone that no matter how many times you forward that Bill Gates e-mail, you will still win NOTHING, and they still believe it.

I hear ya. Some of the people that send it SEEM intelligent enough in everyday life-- I just had to say... do you SERIOUSLY think you're going to be getting money from Bill Gates by forwarding emails??

Send 'em this one, it usually helps put a stop to those type of e-mails showing up in your inbox:

http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/burlap.htm

Jahfin wrote:I'm glad something like Snopes exists in order to debunk all the crap out there but I find it incredibily frustrating when pointing out to someone that no matter how many times you forward that Bill Gates e-mail, you will still win NOTHING, and they still believe it.

Or the one about getting a gift certificate from Applebee's.

Who wants a gift certificate from that miserable restaurant anyway!?!?

IUPARROTHEAD wrote:

Or the one about getting a gift certificate from Applebee's.

Who wants a gift certificate from that miserable restaurant anyway!?!?

Someone's not "feeling good in the neighborhood!"

Snopes is good stuff, I am not getting into the politics, b/c it appears most here will probably disagree with me, but Snopes is good

The best thing Snopes has done for me...



Every time a friend sends me one of those chain letter/urban myth e-mails, I send them the Snopes link.

Now I don't get those e-mails anymore.

smacky wrote:IUPARROTHEAD wrote:

Or the one about getting a gift certificate from Applebee's.

Who wants a gift certificate from that miserable restaurant anyway!?!?

Someone's not "feeling good in the neighborhood!"

Eh, I guess since I live in a place that I can go to thousands of fabulous, original and high quality restaurants, I consider it punishment to eat at an Applebee's.

iuparrothead wrote:

smacky wrote:IUPARROTHEAD wrote:

Or the one about getting a gift certificate from Applebee's.

Who wants a gift certificate from that miserable restaurant anyway!?!?

Someone's not "feeling good in the neighborhood!"

Eh, I guess since I live in a place that I can go to thousands of fabulous, original and high quality restaurants, I consider it punishment to eat at an Applebee's.

Why? Just because you can get microwaved food at home much cheaper?

iuparrothead wrote:

smacky wrote:IUPARROTHEAD wrote:

Or the one about getting a gift certificate from Applebee's.

Who wants a gift certificate from that miserable restaurant anyway!?!?

Someone's not "feeling good in the neighborhood!"

Eh, I guess since I live in a place that I can go to thousands of fabulous, original and high quality restaurants, I consider it punishment to eat at an Applebee's.

I heard someone say recently that they'd rather experience anal rape than to have to eat at Applebee's or listen to Rush. I'd say they don't care for either too much if they felt compelled to put their hatred in those terms. I've eaten at Applebee's but never thought it was that bad.