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Posted: March 25, 2006 4:49 pm
by RinglingRingling
pbans wrote:It is interesting....if I were famous and writing a rider....I would make them have 100 boxes of Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies....cold, but not frozen......
I worked with some country acts in the 80's.....they always asked for weird s***....we always did it, it's part of the program.
a) frozen are better.. they snap more when you bite them

b) I would have drawn the line before it got to the "must have two ewes in the dressing trailer", but that would be me.. :D

Posted: March 25, 2006 5:50 pm
by hawkeye315
Not enough Guinness

Posted: March 25, 2006 5:53 pm
by Midnight Flyer
I agree with the earlier comments. Some people take everything too seriously, relax, take a deep breath, open a Corona. :pirate:

I always enjoy reading things like this (the Rider). It gives you a glimpse into the inner workings of the Jimmy Buffett, Coral Reefer machine that most of us would never see.

I remember seeing an interview with Eddie Van Halen once and he said the reason they put the "No brown M&M's" rider in their contract was because they wanted to see if they could get away with it and then were surprised when they did! :lol: :pirate:

Posted: March 25, 2006 6:17 pm
by ragtopW
pbans wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
pbans wrote:It is interesting....if I were famous and writing a rider....I would make them have 100 boxes of Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies....cold, but not frozen......

I worked with some country acts in the 80's.....they always asked for weird s***....we always did it, it's part of the program.
you should see the demands some of the "Gospel singers" Make.. :D :D :roll: :roll: :roll:
Bottled holy water?
Jumbo Shrimp must be U15
Pasta must be flat and 2/5 ths of an inch across
one band would only talk to Radio Station persons under 30
and another limited numbers of people back stage.
another band insisted on private Dressing rooms for each
of the three "main" members and those MUST be so many (I forgot) feet
from the other member.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Posted: March 25, 2006 6:18 pm
by ragtopW
Midnight Flyer wrote:I agree with the earlier comments. Some people take everything too seriously, relax, take a deep breath, open a Corona. :pirate:

I always enjoy reading things like this (the Rider). It gives you a glimpse into the inner workings of the Jimmy Buffett, Coral Reefer machine that most of us would never see.

I remember seeing an interview with Eddie Van Halen once and he said the reason they put the "No brown M&M's" rider in their contract was because they wanted to see if they could get away with it and then were surprised when they did! :lol: :pirate:
or to see if they could do the simple things right..

Posted: March 25, 2006 8:10 pm
by bckohnen
Midnight Flyer wrote:I remember seeing an interview with Eddie Van Halen once and he said the reason they put the "No brown M&M's" rider in their contract was because they wanted to see if they could get away with it and then were surprised when they did! :lol: :pirate:
I'd thought the reason behind that was to verify that the venue people were reading the rider. Reason being, Van Halen had an extraordinarilly heavy stage kit, far heavier than normal stage sets. Their weight requirements had always been in their rider, but one venue failed to read it fully, causing a stage collapse. The "no brown M&M's" was a quick way to see if people had read the rider fully, and complied with everything, no matter how silly it seemed.

Granted, my memory isn't what it used to be.... 8)

Posted: March 25, 2006 9:01 pm
by BahamaBreeze
bckohnen wrote:
Midnight Flyer wrote:I remember seeing an interview with Eddie Van Halen once and he said the reason they put the "No brown M&M's" rider in their contract was because they wanted to see if they could get away with it and then were surprised when they did! :lol: :pirate:
I'd thought the reason behind that was to verify that the venue people were reading the rider. Reason being, Van Halen had an extraordinarilly heavy stage kit, far heavier than normal stage sets. Their weight requirements had always been in their rider, but one venue failed to read it fully, causing a stage collapse. The "no brown M&M's" was a quick way to see if people had read the rider fully, and complied with everything, no matter how silly it seemed.

Granted, my memory isn't what it used to be.... 8)
Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner :D

David Lee Roth explained in his autobiography:
The folks in Pueblo, Colorado, at the university, took the contract rather kinda casual. They had one of these new rubberized bouncy basketball floorings in their arena. They hadn't read the contract, and weren't sure, really, about the weight of this production; this thing weighed like the business end of a 747.

I came backstage. I found some brown M&M's, I went into full Shakespearean "What is this before me?" . . . you know, with the skull in one hand . . . and promptly trashed the dressing room. Dumped the buffet, kicked a hole in the door, twelve thousand dollars' worth of fun.

The staging sank through their floor. They didn't bother to look at the weight requirements or anything, and this sank through their new flooring and did eighty thousand dollars' worth of damage to the arena floor. The whole thing had to be replaced. It came out in the press that I discovered brown M&M's and did eighty-five thousand dollars' worth of damage to the backstage area.

Posted: March 25, 2006 10:22 pm
by Rum_Runner
I had seen that in past years as well, but nothing wrong with looking at it again. I had forgotten about it, and it certainly was interesting to read again. I'm sure that it has been a work in progress for many years and it took alot of making too many assumptions before they got it right. In their situtaion I would want to make sure I had everything I needed and wanted.

I agree with what some others have stated, my tailgating shopping list is quite extensive and particular as well. :D

Posted: March 26, 2006 12:09 am
by Midnight Flyer
BahamaBreeze wrote:
bckohnen wrote:
Midnight Flyer wrote:I remember seeing an interview with Eddie Van Halen once and he said the reason they put the "No brown M&M's" rider in their contract was because they wanted to see if they could get away with it and then were surprised when they did! :lol: :pirate:
I'd thought the reason behind that was to verify that the venue people were reading the rider. Reason being, Van Halen had an extraordinarilly heavy stage kit, far heavier than normal stage sets. Their weight requirements had always been in their rider, but one venue failed to read it fully, causing a stage collapse. The "no brown M&M's" was a quick way to see if people had read the rider fully, and complied with everything, no matter how silly it seemed.

Granted, my memory isn't what it used to be.... 8)
Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner :D

David Lee Roth explained in his autobiography:
The folks in Pueblo, Colorado, at the university, took the contract rather kinda casual. They had one of these new rubberized bouncy basketball floorings in their arena. They hadn't read the contract, and weren't sure, really, about the weight of this production; this thing weighed like the business end of a 747.

I came backstage. I found some brown M&M's, I went into full Shakespearean "What is this before me?" . . . you know, with the skull in one hand . . . and promptly trashed the dressing room. Dumped the buffet, kicked a hole in the door, twelve thousand dollars' worth of fun.

The staging sank through their floor. They didn't bother to look at the weight requirements or anything, and this sank through their new flooring and did eighty thousand dollars' worth of damage to the arena floor. The whole thing had to be replaced. It came out in the press that I discovered brown M&M's and did eighty-five thousand dollars' worth of damage to the backstage area.
Hmmm...I stand corrected. I'm old (but not as old as Larry :lol: ) and tend to forget things... :roll:

Posted: March 26, 2006 4:22 am
by Minty
Thanks for the post! I've never saw the original (whenever that one was), nor am I anal enough to keep track.

Now I know what to do when Jimmy and the band's request are when they come visit me.... bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! (just kidding)

I was glad to read that there are a few members of the band requesting "good" red wine. Life's too short to go without. :)

rider

Posted: March 26, 2006 7:08 am
by realguy
Seems like a standard rider for all performers.
I was in the music business for 6 years. Nothing really different in Jimmy"s contract.
One thing about the closing of the doors at the sound-check. That"s the time where many artists try something new (covers, stripped down versions) with their songs. Most wouldn"t want to have a bad version recorded and released. I"ve heard some performers at their worst trying something new.
Go to the concert, have a good time and go home.

Posted: March 27, 2006 5:45 pm
by Catch&Release
A good general will know what his troops need to be happy.

The Coral Reefer Band has a lot of members. Good for Jimmy for being so thorough in making sure that everyone (including himself) is happy on the road.

Posted: March 27, 2006 6:06 pm
by LIPH
I've been backstage pre-show a few times and the stuff they have listed for the band hospitality room is right on the money. And you can't beat free food and drinks. :lol:

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Posted: March 27, 2006 7:44 pm
by CaptainRRK
Come on now, That is the tamest list I have ever seen. I've heard of bands wanting m&m's assorted by color, The biggest thing Jimmy askes is to be first in line. I would to if I had the chance, if not we all now Mac is going to clean house.

Posted: March 28, 2006 8:44 am
by jaytrader
Sometimes I think the people here couldn't get through the day without playing the "negativity" card or "Jimmy is human!" card. You'd think we were trying to smear Jimmy by posting a link we found online. Where else would you post a link about JIMMY BUFFETT???

FWIW, I posted the same link here last year. People didn't freak out at all either. Strange.

http://www.buffettnews.com/forum/viewto ... highlight=

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Posted: March 28, 2006 9:06 am
by Jahfin
CaptainRRK wrote:I've heard of bands wanting m&m's assorted by color
You don't say.

Posted: March 28, 2006 9:08 am
by Jahfin
jaytrader wrote:Sometimes I think the people here couldn't get through the day without playing the "negativity" card or "Jimmy is human!" card. You'd think we were trying to smear Jimmy by posting a link we found online. Where else would you post a link about JIMMY BUFFETT???

FWIW, I posted the same link here last year. People didn't freak out at all either. Strange.

http://www.buffettnews.com/forum/viewto ... highlight=
Well, there's folks here that also like to believe he has some sort of squeaky clean image too. I guess they need to see Marilyn Manson's rider to see just how ordinary Buffett's is.

Posted: March 28, 2006 9:37 am
by jaytrader
Apparently, Rock & Roll is really dead.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstaget ... nson1.html

Posted: March 28, 2006 9:49 am
by One Paticular Drunk
30 cases of Corona?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :P that sounds like heaven to me......................i love reading these lists, at least Buffetts isn't rude or crazy. but again, 30 cases of Corona, sign me up!

Posted: March 28, 2006 9:49 am
by bckohnen
Oddly enough, Marilyn Manson's isn't as bad as I thought it'd be. Very specific on some of the brands, but nothing like... well, you know, providing two local virgins or anything like that. The two bottles of absinth are about the worst things on the list, unless you count Gummi Bears.

I seem to recall that Jethro Tull was pretty particular about their backstage accomodations. It's fun to browse through that page, looking for the ones you'd think would be very difficult to work with, only to find out that their demands are few... while the ones who have little right to demand much other than to still be able to get a gig are the big divas. :)

Edit - darn, jaytrader beat me to it!