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"Just-in-time live concert CDs"
Posted: April 10, 2006 9:56 pm
by Jimmy4pres
hey Phriends!
I teach an evening Cost Accounting course (well, I gotta pay for those tix SOMEHOW!

) During my prep work for the upcoming chapter on Inventory Management and Just-in-Time Purchasing (stay with me) I came across a snippit about just-in-time concert recordings. Companies such as Clear Channel are producing CDs from the concert, DURING the concert. When one song is finished, it is burned to hundreds of CDs. After the last song is finished, the CDs are shipped off minutes later to the merchadise stands so that concert goers can purchase the CD of the concert that just ended.
The interesting part was that "artists ranging from Incubus to Jimmy Buffett - and Dave Matthews Band - are planning to augment their existing CD sales with just-in-time recordings."
Granted, there are technological issues to contend with, i.e. sound quality, lack of editing or remastering due to time constraints. But heck, if this is the case, we wouldn't have to wait on Mailboat anymore! Well, a man can dream. . .
of course, source citation: Cost Accounting, A Managerial Emphasis, Horngren, Datar, and Foster - Twelfth Edition
Posted: April 10, 2006 10:00 pm
by A Balding Fan
This crap has been going on for quite a wihle now----nothing new. Just more way clear channel can rape you without going to jail.
Posted: April 11, 2006 5:02 am
by Burny Charles
I've heard of that before. I've often wondered what the quality would be like; getting a CD right after a concert. Has anyone ever bought one at any concert? I actually think it's a brilliant idea, if they can get the quality to a descent point. Of course most of us have been listening to crappy internet recordings for a number of years,

so it might suit a lot of parrotheads if Jimmy took part in this. Most of Mailboats Live releases seem to be "just in time".

Just in time before we've forgotten about getting it. But they are on Island time, and I have no problem with that, and as a bonus they've never raped me, and neither has clear channel, for the record.
Posted: April 11, 2006 8:43 am
by Clintster7
Kiss has done this in the past. I had a friend who bought a double cd of the show. The cost was $25. I didnt hear any complaints from him about the quality.
Posted: April 11, 2006 9:02 am
by phjrsaunt
So you're on a "Total Quality Management" chapter, eh?
I've seen it being done at a couple of shows. I specifically remember it at a Billy Idol show a couple of years ago. I have no idea what the quality turned out to be, or the price. As long as they can get the quality good, I think it's a great idea. Would be even better if they would just mail it to you. I know after a show the last thing I want to do is stand in another line.
Posted: April 11, 2006 9:16 am
by phinsphan25
I actually have gotten an Allman Bros show done this way. It's a pretty cool idea and sure beats the hell out of a $42 t-shirt that shrinks after the first wash. Actually, the quality of the show is pretty good and I was hoping to hear of other groups doing this as well. The only draw back was, waiting 45 minutes after the show to pick up the discs. I think they could have handled that better.... Anyways, it's a cool concept and well worth the price!
Phins Up,
Nate
Posted: April 11, 2006 10:17 am
by Jahfin
Considering you're given the opportunity to buy the disc immediately after the show there is going to be a wait. In these days of instant gratification I can see where everyone wants everything yesterday but in some cases it's just not possible. As for quality, tapers have been turning out high quality copies of shows for decades now so I see no need why professionally recorded concerts should be any different. One possible drawback is the musicians themselves having a bad night or hitting a sour note somewhere during their performance. Otherwise I don't think it's a bad idea (other than the participation of Clear Channel) since it's more money in the artist's pocket.
Posted: April 11, 2006 10:37 am
by BostonFins
Good quality. I've got instant live cd's from Allman Brothers, The Dead, Ratdog and Moe. They all sound great. I've had no problems with any of them. Longest I waited after the final note of the show was something like 15 minutes.
Posted: April 11, 2006 10:48 am
by MikeInNOLA
Jahfin wrote:Considering you're given the opportunity to buy the disc immediately after the show there is going to be a wait. In these days of instant gratification I can see where everyone wants everything yesterday but in some cases it's just not possible. As for quality, tapers have been turning out high quality copies of shows for decades now so I see no need why professionally recorded concerts should be any different. One possible drawback is the musicians themselves having a bad night or hitting a sour note somewhere during their performance. Otherwise I don't think it's a bad idea (other than the participation of Clear Channel) since it's more money in the artist's pocket.
I was thinking Mailboat was going to post them online for download ala PHISH (
http://www.livephish.com/)?? Although, there is probably more $$ to be made via the impulse purchaser at the venues. Especially since most of "us" are either able to (or have access to someone who can) record and burn the concert broadcasts via RM or Sirius.
Posted: April 11, 2006 10:51 am
by phjrsaunt
If there is more than one way to skin a cat, there is bound to be more than one way to deliver a recorded concert

Posted: April 11, 2006 12:22 pm
by SharkOnLand
Are the CDs actually "burned" on site? Burned CDs don't stand the test of time well, the majority will last 2-4 years before losing integrity. I wouldn't spend more than $5 on them if they were actually burned.
"Pressed" CDs, which are the commercial CDs you buy in stores and such, last much longer.
Posted: April 11, 2006 6:59 pm
by asuwookie
www.instantlive.com
Yes it is owened by clear channel.. but you can see what acts they have done, learn more about it, etc. Orginally it started as "burning" but now they are working on the technology to redevelop live albums into 5.1 surround sound and making them available to DL. HOpe that helps!
Posted: April 12, 2006 1:46 am
by Jason Mason
Hmmm, this is interesting... If they are indeed simply burned, I'll just stick to my Sirius recordings.. I suppose it would be nice for someone who doesn't have Sirius, or for some reason can't record through it.. It may sound a little better though, not having been streamed through anything (recorded directly from the soundboard). I dunno what to think of it

Posted: April 12, 2006 4:35 pm
by NorthernConch
many bands are doing this for the extra income and fans love it as well. Quality is as good as it gets.
Many of the smaller budget look to this outlet for a good portion of paying the bandmembers as good as they can.