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Posted: **April 14, 2006 8:40 pm**

Island_Lullaby wrote:ok, so I was just told that I was nothing more than a glorified babysitter...I teach Kindergarten...any thoughts on this...please be honest, but not offended if I do not reply right away as I need to calm down

Just remember...people are stupid.

I completely understand. I often get told that I am not a REAL teacher...so I guess my 18 years in education have all been fake too?

I dare ANYONE to spend a day in my shoes, or in a general ed classroom teacher's shoes...then tell me our job is cake and how lucky we are and that anyone can teach.

And in Cali the requirements for exiting Kindergarten are higher than what used to be for exiting first grade. Kindergarten teachers are phenomenal...and most have only half a day to teach all that is required.

Posted: **April 14, 2006 9:38 pm**

I'll second what most have said. I never went to Kindergarten (it was optional back then.

) but I remember my keets, and so does he. You teach, nuture, and comfort children. You don't change their diapers, sit them in down and let them entertain themselves by watching TV or play with toys.

Now, mind you I wouldn't have the patience for EITHER profession.

Posted: **April 14, 2006 9:53 pm**

sonofabeach wrote:May the fleas of 1000 camels infest that person's armpits

My son is in kindergarten now and is amazing us all of the time with the things that he has learned.
Heck they are even taught in Pre-K.

and his teacher is a babe

My daughter is in 1st grade, and my son will be in kindergarten next year, so I feel the right to take this 1 step further...

May the fleas of 1000 camels infest the crotch of the person who said this, and may their arms be too short to scratch...

Posted: **April 15, 2006 12:18 pm**

I never went to kindergarten. None was available at the time I was growing up. There are good teachers and there are so-so teachers.... then there EXCELLENT teachers that stand out in a student's mind.
Some may have several.

I consider anyone teaching kindergarten to be one of the most important in the school process/system because they have the formulative years and have an effect the way a child feels about learning for the rest of their lives.

"A glorified Baby sitter"? Not hardly. Has that person ever actually sat in on a classroom all day and for a few weeks let alone as a career? I doubt it. I also doubt they would care to. If they think it such a simple job, why don't they try it?

A pox upon the person that made that statement to you, along with the other wishes about the fleas of a thousands camels infesting that person's armpits, crotches, and their arms being to short to scatch.

All the best to you and THANK YOU for being a teacher!!! HUGGGZZZZZZZ
and a couple of adult libations to you as well.

Posted: **April 15, 2006 12:24 pm**

I know it sounds silly because I was 6, but I had the biggest crush on my Kindergarten teacher, Miss Johnson...

Posted: **April 15, 2006 1:01 pm**

Lundah wrote:I know it sounds silly because I was 6, but I had the biggest crush on my Kindergarten teacher, Miss Johnson...

I waited until I was older.. Debbie Morgan, former Miss Montana, my 3rd grade student teacher for a quarter. Wow.. can still remember her.

Posted: **April 15, 2006 3:22 pm**

RinglingRingling wrote:
Lundah wrote:I know it sounds silly because I was 6, but I had the biggest crush on my Kindergarten teacher, Miss Johnson...
I waited until I was older.. Debbie Morgan, former Miss Montana, my 3rd grade student teacher for a quarter. Wow.. can still remember her.

I didn't have a hot teacher until Jr. High. Miss Butler, and she had a very fine one too

Posted: **April 15, 2006 3:34 pm**

There was a science teacher at my high school, Miss Bradford...if only we had teachers that slept with students in those days....

Posted: **April 15, 2006 3:46 pm**

Lundah wrote:There was a science teacher at my high school, Miss Bradford...if only we had teachers that slept with students in those days....

Oh, they were there....it just didn't get all the press. I know that a 7th grade English teacher was sleeping with one boy (he was in 8th grade...but had failed several times....so he would have been older then average).

And one girl married a teacher a month after graduation...it was open knowledge they were dating for at least 2 years before that.

Posted: **April 15, 2006 3:56 pm**

This is one of those internet things that I actually do forward, every Teacher Appreciation Day. I don't care that it might not be an actual discussion, it is the truth.

The dinner guests were sitting around the table discussing life. One man, a CEO, decided to explain the problem with education. He argued: "What's a kid going to learn from someone who decided his best option in life was to become a teacher?" He reminded the other dinner guests that it's true what they say about teachers, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach." To corroborate,
he said to another guest, "You're a teacher, Susan. Be honest. What do you make?"

Susan, who had a reputation for honesty and frankness replied, "You want to know what I make?"

"I make kids work harder than they ever thought they could. I can make a C+ feel like a Congressional Medal of Honor and an A- feel like a slap in the face if the student did not do his or her very best."
"I can make kids sit through 40 minutes of study hall in absolute silence."
"I can make parents tremble in fear when I call home."

"You want to know what I make?"

"I make kids wonder."
"I make them question."
"I make them criticize."
"I make them apologize and mean it."
"I make them write."
"I make them read, read, read."
"I make them spell definitely beautiful, definitely beautiful, and definitely beautiful over and over and over again, until they will never misspell either of those words again."
"I make them show all of their work in math and hide it all on their final drafts in English."
"I make them understand that if you have the brains, then follow your heart; and if someone ever tries to judge you by what you make, you pay them no attention."

"You want to know what I make?"

"I make a difference. "

Amen! And a great BIG thank you to all the teachers out there. Don't listen to the a$$holes who ironically have teachers to thank for their education!

Posted: **April 15, 2006 4:04 pm**

I think kindergarten teachers are arguably the most important teacher a child will have. It takes a special person, gifted by God to do what you do, I could NEVER do it-I'll take an airplane in an ice storm over a kindergarten class any day!!

Keep up the good work. And as Kris Kristoferson said to Sinead O'Conner "Don't let the ba$tards get you down."

Posted: **April 15, 2006 4:14 pm**

Hey Vince...I think I'd pay good money to see you teaching kindergarten!

Posted: **April 15, 2006 5:57 pm**

I agree basically with what everyone else has said. The parent's ignoranus.

If the parent says it again, ask them what they do for a living.
If they are an accountant, tell them they are a glorified mathematician.
If they are a lawyer, tell them they are a glorified debater.
If they are in business, tell them they are a glorified salesman, etc, etc.
Then ask them if the effect they have on their clients and whether they teach them lessons they remember the rest of their life.
Ask them if they remember their first teacher and if they remember ANY of their babysitters. If they say no, well then remember you can't fix stoopid.

Roll with the punches, play all your hunches, make the best of whatever comes your way.

Posted: **April 15, 2006 9:00 pm**

buffettbride wrote:who's ass said that so i can kick it????

stand aside and let momma show you how it's done.

I CAN'T BELIEVE ANYONE SAID THAT TO YOU

It takes a very special person to work with kids that young and a whole group of them is like a wild group of heathens.

People who work with both the young and elderly should have a special place in the hereafter IMHO.

Posted: **April 15, 2006 9:56 pm**

ph4ever wrote:
buffettbride wrote:who's ass said that so i can kick it????

stand aside and let momma show you how it's done.

I CAN'T BELIEVE ANYONE SAID THAT TO YOU

It takes a very special person to work with kids that young and a whole group of them is like a wild group of heathens.

People who work with both the young and elderly should have a special place in the hereafter IMHO.

I got your back too Connie.

Posted: **April 15, 2006 10:16 pm**

Island_Lullaby wrote:ok, so I was just told that I was nothing more than a glorified babysitter...I teach Kindergarten...any thoughts on this...please be honest, but not offended if I do not reply right away as I need to calm down

Whoever said that is an idiot.

Kindergarten teachers set the standards for how well children will learn for the rest of their school years.

It's been 30 years since I was in kindergarten, and I can still see Mrs. Prather (God Bless Her!), remember what the room looked like, can tell you what we did in class, and the memories always make me smile.

30 years later, I'm approaching a doctoral degree, have a wonderful wife, two kids, love what I do, and... I AM A TEACHER.

Thank you Mrs. Prather and all those who teach kindergarten. (including you, Island_Lullaby!)

Posted: **April 15, 2006 10:29 pm**

z-man wrote:It has been over 40 years and I still remember my kindergarten classroom and teacher.

Don't remember my babysitters.

Well said.

BilltheLizard wrote:Just remember it always seems to be the ignorant that are quick to make the stupid comments.

I teach 7th/8th, but I do not have the patience to TEACH Kindergarten.

Let it go, cause they will still remain stupid long after you have gotten over being mad.

Mad lasts for twenty minutes. Ignorant is forever. You win.

Posted: **April 15, 2006 10:47 pm**

Kindergarten teachers have the unique challenge of having 20+ students at completely different ends of the educational spectrum. Some show up practically ready for 1st grade, and some are probably just potty trained. Some can count to ten, some can barely say their ABCs. A kindergarten teacher has to bring that all together and teach a curriculum that gets the slower learners up to speed and the quick ones challenged enough to stay excited about school. Some have been in child care/preschool since birth and for others it's the first time they have ever set foot in a classroom. No other grade has to face that challenge.

If I was in that situation, after I seriously thought about slashing that persons tires or putting sugar down their gas tank, I would invite them to spend a day with the class to see exactly what is included in "babysitting."

If they decline, tell them it's a shame they can't have more time and interest in their child's education.

If they come join the class, then hopefully they will understand after seeing you in action.

Posted: **April 15, 2006 10:52 pm**

And just for kicks, I asked my daughter tonight which grade so far has been her favorite. She seriously LOVES 3rd grade, but she said, "Mom, kindergarten is really the best. It's when school is exciting you make all new friends and kindergarten teachers are just the nicest. They don't yell and always teach you new things. Without kindergarten, you would never learn the rules about school, or how to share, or how to have recess. Remember, Mom, when we got to watch the catepillars form cocoons and turn into butterflies? I was the first one to see them hatch. And I lost my first tooth in kindergarten too because Mrs. Lee had special tooth boxes for all the kids if they lost a tooth at school. And we can't take naps in 3rd grade like we used to in kindergarten either. Sometimes I just want a nap."

My daughter's kindergarten teacher was sooooo fantastic and I'm sure you are too IL.

Posted: **April 15, 2006 11:16 pm**

buffettbride wrote: My daughter's kindergarten teacher was sooooo fantastic and I'm sure you are too IL.

I love the story!! Rock loved her kindergarten teacher as well....she still gets all misty eyed when thinking about Mrs. S......heck, I loved her so much that when we had a difficult first grade teacher (who tried to tell me that handwriting was a direct indication of intelligence (Rock and I both have HORRID handwriting)....that she was the first person I went to!!

I still remember mine....she played a white piano, was so soft spoken, and loved the Hawaiian dresses my great-grandparents would bring me back from their vacations. (However, I do remember my babysitters as well...didn't have many....it was a real treat!)

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