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Posted: May 19, 2006 3:05 pm
by Crazy Navy Flyer
par8hdwood wrote:I'm 25 and support the President. But more than that, I am an American who supports this country no matter what. I'm sick of the hypocritical anit-Bush bashers that would be praising Clinton had he done the same things. Instead they insist on printing lies and covering foreign policy only the way that backs their agendas. Either you are an American or your not. There is nothing wrong with having different opinions, God knows I don't agree with everything the President does, but enough is enough. Quit dishonoring the men and women who have died just so you can speak freely!
Well said.
Young? With his lack of understanding of reality I'd say less than 20. Not that all those under 20 are gullible but usually an open mind and the ability to look at all the facts comes with age.
Posted: May 19, 2006 3:24 pm
by OystersandBeer
Being an American means one can speak freely.
I'm not agreeing with those who dishonor servicemen or women, but I'm not disagreeing with those who question our president's motive's either. It is with this open dialogue that change can come. Unfortunately, during this free-speech we must tolerate those we do not agree with. But silencing them and calling them names and dismissing them because you think they are too young is not American. Everyone has a voice and should be heard. That is what Democracy is about.
Posted: May 19, 2006 4:37 pm
by mjcatl2
Have there been any terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11? No. That means that this administration is doing something right about them. This wire tapping is one tool in that toolbox.
Actually, we don't know if that has helped. However, the issue here - for most people - is not the wiretapping itself, but the secretive
unwarrented wiretapping.
The decision to circumvent the FISA court is very serious and disconcerting. This should go beyond party - this is a fundamental violation that all of Congress and America should be concerned about.
Posted: May 19, 2006 4:54 pm
by Sam
mjcatl2 wrote:Have there been any terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11? No. That means that this administration is doing something right about them. This wire tapping is one tool in that toolbox.
Actually, we don't know if that has helped. However, the issue here - for most people - is not the wiretapping itself, but the secretive
unwarrented wiretapping.
The decision to circumvent the FISA court is very serious and disconcerting. This should go beyond party - this is a fundamental violation that all of Congress and America should be concerned about.
You still don't get it. Who was wiretapped and who was wiretapped unwarranted where one was required but not used?
Thw NSA has been following the Rules set out years ago.
Welll, IF you can prove that what the NSA has done, was not effective in preventing more attacks on American soil, you just might be able to prove your position/point/view on this.
However since there were no further attacks ...speaks for itself.
The NSA was merely looking for patterns in phone calls. Now that is so wildly known .... if there were patterns the people now know it and changed them.
The NSA knows more about what they are allowed and not allowed to do.
After being in business and operating all these years and so many Presidents.... why are worried about it now?
Have you ever heard of CARNIVORE ?