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Kingsley: Do you think you underestimated the way a statement from you can resonate around the world?

Maines: Oh, my God, yes. We never in a million years knew people were listening to what we said. Like Emily said, we never use the stage as a place to preach our political beliefs or spiritual beliefs. And we still won't. And that's not what I was doing that night either. It seemed odd to not mention anything about what was going on, granted I mentioned it in the wrong way."
-- Syndicated radio interview with Bob Kingsley, 4/24/03
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a1aara wrote:]Is that you in the picture in your posts?

Care to call (319)321-9969 and discuss that, junior?[/quote]


I'm flattered...but no thanks. I'll take your word for it.

Also, they don't make a habit of b|tching about President Bush in foreign countries and going in front of a camera in THIS country to reiterate what they said.
I'll say it ONE LAST TIME-
I don't care WHO'S political views are WHAT!
WHEN I GO TO A CONCERT, I WANT TO HEAR THE BAND'S MUSIC AND NOTHING ELSE!

so... because they gave an interview or several to media outlets, that affects their performance on stage? You seem to be arguing apples, and oranges.

RinglingRingling wrote:a) did they make the comment in concert or in an interview?

Straight from CMT.com:
However, during a London performance in April 2003, Maines casually remarked, "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."

And you questioned our credibility when we mentioned this?

a1aara wrote:

a1aara wrote:]Is that you in the picture in your posts?

Care to call (319)321-9969 and discuss that, junior?

I'm flattered...but no thanks. I'll take your word for it. [/quote]
It's amazing how brave some people are from the safety of a computer.
I had you pegged right all along.

I didn't think you'd have the guts to call.

Wino you know wrote:

a1aara wrote:

a1aara wrote:]Is that you in the picture in your posts?

Care to call (319)321-9969 and discuss that, junior?

I'm flattered...but no thanks. I'll take your word for it.

It's amazing how brave some people are from the safety of a computer.
I had you pegged right all along.

I didn't think you'd have the guts to call.[/quote]

Brave??? Please... What's the point?

Big man over the telephone thousands of miles away? I'm so afraid. Grow up.

Y'all can stop the arguing now, thank you.

Let me first state that I know little about the Dixie Chicks and I'm neither a fan or dislike them. But I just saw this in our paper and thought I'd throw it out here....

http://www.dispatch.com/features-story. ... D4-02.html

MUSIC
Dixie Chicks back at No. 1
Thursday, June 01, 2006


NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Despite a cool reception from country radio, the Dixie Chicks have returned to No. 1 on the pop and country charts with their first album since publicly criticizing the president three years ago.

The album Taking the Long Way took the top spot on the country-album chart and overall Billboard 200 chart — which are based on sales rather than radio airplay — with 526,000 units sold during its first full week.

For the year, the Chicks’ firstweek showing trails only Rascal Flatts’ Me and My Gang (722,000 units), said Wade Jessen, director of Billboard’s country charts.

Country-radio programmers have been slow to embrace the group since lead singer Natalie Maines told a London audience in 2003 on the eve of the war in Iraq that the group was ashamed that President Bush is from their home state of Texas.

In the United States, their music was boycotted and they received death threats.

from The Borowitz Report - borowitzreport.com - which is a daily humor page and has received (as the home page announces) the "First Ever National Press Club Award for Humor" :
Elsewhere, one day after their latest album reached number one on the pop and country charts, President Bush named all three Dixie Chicks to the Axis of Evil.

prrthd1987 wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:a) did they make the comment in concert or in an interview?

Straight from CMT.com:
However, during a London performance in April 2003, Maines casually remarked, "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."

And you questioned our credibility when we mentioned this?

I said If... I did not know if it was said during a concert or an interview, I had not heard it was said while they were onstage. Go back and read the original statement, or find someone who can read it to you and explain the points. 'k?

further, from one of your posts... I would ask if you know the meaning of the word, "rant"? I'll include the definition below so you don't necessarily need to engage in hyperbole...

Main Entry: rant
Pronunciation: 'rant
Function: verb
Etymology: obsolete Dutch ranten, randen
intransitive senses
1 : to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner
2 : to scold vehemently

jbsux wrote:Well, I think I'll stay in the Hee-Haw crowd, and you're right, Natalie Maines does look like a little pig, a pot bellied pig who should go back to the hog slop where she came from!

I just saw the new video. I'd do her.

RinglingRingling wrote: further, from one of your posts... I would ask if you know the meaning of the word, "rant"? I'll include the definition below so you don't necessarily need to engage in hyperbole...

Main Entry: rant

1 : to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner
2 : to scold vehemently

Noisy, excited, and declamatory... that describes her voice perfectly... just listen to the way she butchered Landslide

RinglingRingling wrote:I said If... I did not know if it was said during a concert or an interview

RinglingRingling wrote:a) did they make the comment in concert or in an interview?

I see no use of the word if here... I used boldface to point out that you should have done a little bit of research before you threw around one of your pompous, left-wing, narrow minded opinions. The statement that I had boldfaced took approximately 45 seconds to find. We have these things called computers to make our lives easier... like only having to take 45 seconds to find a fact.

RinglingRingling wrote:Go back and read the original statement, or find someone who can read it to you and explain the points. 'k?

Now you have just crossed the line... just because I am young (probably a third of your age) does NOT mean I am an idiot, or would require any of the assistance or mental help implied by that statement. I don't care who the hell you are! You have no right to question my competence in any way. I see people judge my intelligence based on my age frequently, and yes, they all hear about it. Sure, I may be young, but I'm not intimidated by some middle aged creep who has nothing better to do than force their opinions on a high school kid... because 10 years from now, I am going to be waving my PhD in front of you, asking who needs the reading assistance now?

prrthd1987 wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote: further, from one of your posts... I would ask if you know the meaning of the word, "rant"? I'll include the definition below so you don't necessarily need to engage in hyperbole...

Main Entry: rant

1 : to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner
2 : to scold vehemently

Noisy, excited, and declamatory... that describes her voice perfectly... just listen to the way she butchered Landslide

I don't listen to their music. I don't care for it. Thus, I wouldn't have heard the concert, nor would I have heard her "butchering' a song. That sounds like a subjective assessment, hardly objective.

RinglingRingling wrote:I said If... I did not know if it was said during a concert or an interview

RinglingRingling wrote:a) did they make the comment in concert or in an interview?

I see no use of the word if here... I used boldface to point out that you should have done a little bit of research before you threw around one of your pompous, left-wing, narrow minded opinions. The statement that I had boldfaced took approximately 45 seconds to find. We have these things called computers to make our lives easier... like only having to take 45 seconds to find a fact.

RinglingRingling wrote:Go back and read the original statement, or find someone who can read it to you and explain the points. 'k?

Now you have just crossed the line... just because I am young (probably a third of your age) does NOT mean I am an idiot, or would require any of the assistance or mental help implied by that statement. I don't care who the hell you are! You have no right to question my competence in any way. I see people judge my intelligence based on my age frequently, and yes, they all hear about it. Sure, I may be young, but I'm not intimidated by some middle aged creep who has nothing better to do than force their opinions on a high school kid... because 10 years from now, I am going to be waving my PhD in front of you, asking who needs the reading assistance now?

a Ph. D? make sure it's in something useful.

as for the "left-wing, liberal..." blahblahblah.. I am a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. That gets lost with half-wits like yourself whose only real-world experience appears to be gained thru the prism of Mummy and Daddy. s*** it up, learn to think for yourself, and maybe you'll get to the point where a) you know there is a lot more grey than the soundbyte mentality you have now allows for; and b) a class you teach might be worth the overcharge whatever university levies for a credit hour.

Until then, sputter all you want. I discounted your statements because you march in lockstep. Not because of your age.

Is these new toonz out on 8-track?

And the name calling and somewhat rude comments can stop. Now. Thank you.

RinglingRingling wrote:a Ph. D? make sure it's in something useful.

Pretty much guaranteed job security... I will be fighting for the environment, something there will surely be a need to repair in my lifetime. State DNR programs are constantly losing funding because of... get this... the Democrats! The tree-huggers themselves are cutting DNR programs (ex: Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich... I work and volunteer in environmental related fields, so I see this first-hand.

RinglingRingling wrote:That gets lost with half-wits like yourself whose only real-world experience appears to be gained thru the prism of Mummy and Daddy.

I'm sorry, but my parents have not handed me everything on a silver platter. I was thrown into the workforce at fifteen, and have been busting my @$$ for ungrateful SOB's (both in small business and large corporations) the entire time. Now I work full-time and take at least seventeen credit hours per semester (full-time status is twelve) I get my viewpoints through my experiences, not my parents'. I actually get into political discussions with them, in which we sometimes disagree... not all the time, but there are times when we do. I work, pay taxes, and pay bills just like you do. I grew up watching CNN and MSNBC, unlike most of the individuals my age. I took honors civics, government, and history classes. I have even called Bill Clinton a good president before (I do not like him as a person, but as a president, he did do some things right).

Sure, I share SOME viewpoints with my parents, but it is because I have had real-world experiences, and gotten informed!

RinglingRingling wrote: s*** it up, learn to think for yourself, and maybe you'll get to the point where a) you know there is a lot more grey than the soundbyte mentality you have now allows for; and b) a class you teach might be worth the overcharge whatever university levies for a credit hour.

You are obviously referring to private universities, which I would NEVER teach in. There are plenty of state universities and community colleges where the IS no overcharge. At my school, the state of Minnesota pays for half of all tuition. I see no overcharge there. And it's one of the best in the region.

RinglingRingling wrote:I discounted your statements because you march in lockstep.

And I discounted yours because of your ignorance, stubbornness, and narrow-mind.

prrthd1987 wrote:...I will be fighting for the environment, something there will surely be a need to repair in my lifetime... because of... the Democrats!

GET REAL! We're never gonna be able to undo what George and Dick have done to us in the last six years. George has tried to reverse every environmental law/regulation that the previous admin had put in place, and he won't rest until we're drilling for oil offshore in California (but never in FLA, Jeb wouldn't stand for that!) and laying new pipeline and digging holes in the ANWR. They're putting new roads in previously protected National Forests so that the lumber companies can clear cut more old growth. And you're blaming the Democrats for some budget cuts? How can we fund environmental projects when we need all the money for bombs for Iraq? Clearly you're not taking any business classes in pursuit of your precious Ph.D.

The way you talk is a perfect example of the difference between education and experience. I don't have a Ph.D, (just a couple of Bachelor's Degrees) but I have studied at the school of hard knocks for 56 years now . . . Ah, to be young and foolish again!

SeattleParrothead wrote:GET REAL! We're never gonna be able to undo what George and Dick have done to us in the last six years.

THANK GOD!

SeatlleParrothead wrote:George has tried to reverse every environmental law/regulation that the previous admin had put in place, and he won't rest until we're drilling for oil offshore in California.

It beats drilling for oil in the Middle East.
It baffles me as to how some of the environmentalist kooks p|ss and moan about the high price of gas, but when we try to do something about it, they squeal like a bunch of pigs. Sorry-we can't have it both ways. Unless we go TAKE some of the oil in the Middle East. (In Kuwait, the price of gas is .5 cents per gallon-in Venezuela (home of Jimmih Car-tah's buddy) it's .11 cents.) Offer those sand-eating towel heads $20.00 a barrel-tell them to take it or leave it. If they say "NO," we drill HERE, where there's enough oil resources to keep us going for AT LEAST the next 40 years. (I promise I won't worry about the price of gasoline in 40 years-I'll have other things on my mind).

SeattleParrothead wrote:(but never in FLA, Jeb wouldn't stand for that!)

I'll have to speak to that young man.

SeattleParrothead wrote:and laying new pipeline and digging holes in the ANWR.

THAT should've been done fifty years ago. Especially since the people of Alaska WANT to.

SeattleParrothead wrote:They're putting new roads in previously protected National Forests so that the lumber companies can clear cut more old growth.

LUMBER COMPANIES!!!
Those fine people who make us such wonderful products like houses, coffee tables, baseball bats, book cases, etc.
JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!!!!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

<< Offer those sand-eating towel heads >>


Ever notice that the dumbest rednecks have the simplest solutions?

"Hey, let's invade Iraq! Piece of cake!" -- George Bush, after drinking a few beers.

At least we have things like the Dixie Chicks and a proposed gay marriage ban CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT(?!?) to keep us distracted from any of the real problems we've got.

This proposed constitutional amendment is another "Look over here! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" ploy. I think the state-by-state decisions have worked fine so far, thanks. And in the state cases, actual lowly American citizens get to decide through the power of an actual vote.

...And "sand-eating towel heads"? You don't do your arguments any favors with comments like that.