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ph4ever wrote:

LIPH wrote:Does anyone have a FIREMAN: IN CASE OF FIRE PLEASE SAVE MY CHILD sticker right next to it?

Please tell me none of you are serious about this? You would expect fire fighters to risk their lives to save an animal? I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.

yes I do - fireman do it all the time and I pay their salary by paying my taxes. My animals BOTH are within 3 FEET from windows and could easily be reached from outside. Unless the rooms are fully engulfed I expect the animals to be saved.

Animals can be left at home alone. If a person leaves a child at home alone - that's another issue.

Long Island is the land of the volunteer fire department. I would never expect a volunteer to risk his life to save an animal. In my opinion, that's not what they signed on for.

Not all children are infants or toddlers. With both parents working or in a single parent household teenagers are probably home alone a lot. If they were overcome by smoke before the fire department showed up how are the firefighters supposed to know there might be a child in the house?

I have one next to the door, but it's more of a 'to emergency personnel, dog inside' sticker. I would naturally assume that I would be on my own to save my dog in the event of an emergency.

Would I risk my lift to save my animals? Yes, and I have in the past. Crazy or not, I don't have kids. I have pets.

Would I expect someone else to risk their life to save my dog? No.

LIPH wrote:

ph4ever wrote:

LIPH wrote:Does anyone have a FIREMAN: IN CASE OF FIRE PLEASE SAVE MY CHILD sticker right next to it?

Please tell me none of you are serious about this? You would expect fire fighters to risk their lives to save an animal? I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous.

yes I do - fireman do it all the time and I pay their salary by paying my taxes. My animals BOTH are within 3 FEET from windows and could easily be reached from outside. Unless the rooms are fully engulfed I expect the animals to be saved.

Animals can be left at home alone. If a person leaves a child at home alone - that's another issue.

Long Island is the land of the volunteer fire department. I would never expect a volunteer to risk his life to save an animal. In my opinion, that's not what they signed on for.

Not all children are infants or toddlers. With both parents working or in a single parent household teenagers are probably home alone a lot. If they were overcome by smoke before the fire department showed up how are the firefighters supposed to know there might be a child in the house?

If the fireman are going to enter my home to look for people I would like for them to know there are animals in there so they can get them. I said IF. I wouldn't expect them to enter a fully engulfed home to save my pets. My animals are in a cage (bird) and a kennel (dog) when I'm not at home. They have no chance at all to get out on their own.

My son does - he's able to get out as soon as he hears the smoke detector. THAT'S the difference. He can be aroused by a smoke detector alarm and know what to do. My pets - they'll hear the smoke detector but they can't do a thing but stay there and suffer smoke inhalation.

As a parent I do what I can to protect my son - including smoke/carbon monoxide detectors in my home. My apartments for the past 8 years had sprinklers in them as well. At his dad's home, where his room is upstairs he has a window ladder to hang over the railing and get out.

Not that I love my pets more than my son but a young adult has more ability to save themselves than an animal in a cage or kennel does. My main concern with my son would not be him overcome by smoke inhalation but rather his going back inside after he got himself out to save his pets.

I guess we'll to agree to disagree on this one. The way I look at it, you can get another pet. You can't get another child. That's the difference to me.

LIPH wrote: You can't get another child.

Sure you can. Just go to the playground, the damn things are runnin' around all over the place.

LIPH wrote:I guess we'll to agree to disagree on this one. The way I look at it, you can get another pet. You can't get another child. That's the difference to me.

I'm not disagreeing with your original thought as far as someone risking their life to save my critters.....but getting a new pet no more replaces one you've lost than having another baby replaces a child you've lost.
If you are truly a "pet" person, each critter holds a special place in your life. I've ALWAYS had a dog....and yes, when I've lost a dog eventually I have gotten another one.....but not as a replacement for the "lost" pet, but to fill the void in my life.

LIPH wrote:I guess we'll to agree to disagree on this one. The way I look at it, you can get another pet. You can't get another child. That's the difference to me.

your thoughts are good and noble I'll have to admit.

And you're right - I can't get another child. But then my line of thinking is possibly the result of the fact that my child is older and on his own right now. He's also very level headed and independent and always has been.

My dog is our baby right now. She was one of my wedding presents from Don. That's all I wanted was a dog. Personally I would be devistated if something were to happen to her and I know Don would be too. She's brought such joy and happiness to our life. I wouldn't want anyone to die from rescuing her (unless it were me doing the rescuing) but if they could reach in the windows and grab the bird cage and open up the kennel and get her out.

Like I said - my signs are VERY specific and the animals are both within reach from a window and both within 10 feet from the front door

I think it would be very difficult for them to save my reef tank

pbans wrote:as for stickers for my kid....if she was still in the house, I would still be in the house....there is no way on God's green earth that I would ever leave her in there.

I agree, 100%. I'd be more concerned about what might happen when I wasn't home.

Got it! We have 5 felines, and they will be rescued if at all possible.

thebeachbumm33 wrote:I think it would be very difficult for them to save my reef tank

but it would be easy to put out a fire with it

perhaps one should call their local fire department and see what their policy is about rescuing pets.....

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:perhaps one should call their local fire department and see what their policy is about rescuing pets.....

Out of curiosity, I called. Their policy is a loose one. If the animal doesn't fight them and they can easily get them, they will make all attempts to recue all live creatures in a house.

sy wrote:

AlbatrossFlyer wrote:perhaps one should call their local fire department and see what their policy is about rescuing pets.....

Out of curiosity, I called. Their policy is a loose one. If the animal doesn't fight them and they can easily get them, they will make all attempts to recue all live creatures in a house.

Our FD 'policy' is pretty much the same way.....

I don't have a sticker, but will check into it and look at it as an alert rescue workers.

It's makes me sad just thinking about all of this. WOW. I suffered pain from losing a pet recently, only to have him come home 40 days later. It's something you know you can get through, but still so dang hard to deal with.

I too will check with the local fire department. My neighbors' home just burned to the ground and we have changed a few things. No serious injuries. But, a local family lost 3 children while the mom was off working nights somewhere. So sad. It can happen so fast.

(On a side note: We were leaving during a mandatory evacuation for Hurricane Rita. My youngest cat was in a very large open carrier. He was so stressed that I feared he would die. I took him back to the house and left him where I had NO idea what might happen. It was one of those HARDEST decisions I've ever made, but I was sure he was going to die in the car for hours or at least completely disappear somewhere. I still don't know the right thing to do on that one. Nothing felt right for days there! The older outside cat was already GONE into hiding. So so sad. ANd, it still makes me sad to think about it. I know it's the price you pay when you get attached to pets.)

Thanks for providing a place to express feelings.

I'm so sorry you had to go thru that heartacke.

I just made up my own stickers using window film that you can get at any office supply shop.

yep...have one

I think my ex-girlfriend resented the fact I never added her cats to my sticker for the dog. And I agree on the save the dog before the house philosophy. I can always buy a new house and new stuff, but who else is gonna lick my face after a hard day at work?

LIPH wrote:Long Island is the land of the volunteer fire department. I would never expect a volunteer to risk his life to save an animal. In my opinion, that's not what they signed on for.

My father was a volunteer fireman for over 20 years, eventually becoming head engineer and would still be part of the department if he hadn't moved when he divorced my mother.

However, it was routine for them to rescue pets if it could be done safely. They trained on it even. Where to look, how to resuscitate a cat or dog, etc etc.

They also handed out these stickers (as well as ones for children, elderly and invalids).

It also wasn't uncommon for a widow who had had to call them at some point to leave a substantial sum in their will to the department because they saved a family pet. (This was common in our area for people to do, it may not be that way in all areas.)

let's try this again

I hope this doesn't sound smug, but I can only assume people who DON'T own pets really don't understand.