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alphabits wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

alphabits wrote: Yeah, and there was something a little fishy about the relationship between Scooby and Shaggy.

Ya think?

ROOBY ROOOOOOOO!!!!

I think they call that the Shaggy Surprise.

Sam wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

Sam wrote:No doubt they will next have Batman and Robin as being a homosexual couple too....

Come on, Robin was gay from day 1.

Actually I seldom watched "Batman"...I don't think we got that channel very good ( we only got 2 channels pretty good, and sometimes 3 maybe a 4 IF WE WERE REAL lucky) in those days) or else my sister forced us to watch something else when it came on.

No matter.......even if I thought he was strange. I didn't think about the characters as such and I don't feel any kid should be forced to have to.
I think it takes away from being and allowing a kid to be a kid.
After all they grow up too fast as it is , or so it seems sometimes.

I would venture a guess that most comic book aficionados are not young children anymore. It's an industry that seems geared toward adult/late-teen., geeky, males who can't git any and/or <banned "l" word>.

No children will be harmed in the --------izing of Batwoman.

buffettbride wrote:

alphabits wrote:

buffettbride wrote:am i the only one who either:

a. doesn't care if batwoman is a ------- or not.
b. thinks it's kind of cool and really don't have a problem with it

As long as she's a HOT <insert banned word here>, I'm on board with it!

How come when two chicks do it for a man's benefit it's sexy, but a "real 'censored l word' is frowned upon?

Maybe it's just the stereotype -
Two hot chicks doing it are still two HOT chicks.
The latter (at least stereotypically) looks like a guy without an adam's apple.

alphabits wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

alphabits wrote:

buffettbride wrote:am i the only one who either:

a. doesn't care if batwoman is a ------- or not.
b. thinks it's kind of cool and really don't have a problem with it

As long as she's a HOT <insert banned word here>, I'm on board with it!

How come when two chicks do it for a man's benefit it's sexy, but a "real 'censored l word' is frowned upon?

Maybe it's just the stereotype -
Two hot chicks doing it are still two HOT chicks.
The latter (at least stereotypically) looks like a guy without an adam's apple.

So, you're saying it has to do with the "how bad you wanna stick your thingy in it" factor?

buffettbride wrote: Fred was the fruity one, I think.

He wore that little necktie thingy. Of course he was.

buffettbride wrote:

Sam wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

Sam wrote:No doubt they will next have Batman and Robin as being a homosexual couple too....

Come on, Robin was gay from day 1.

Actually I seldom watched "Batman"...I don't think we got that channel very good ( we only got 2 channels pretty good, and sometimes 3 maybe a 4 IF WE WERE REAL lucky) in those days) or else my sister forced us to watch something else when it came on.

No matter.......even if I thought he was strange. I didn't think about the characters as such and I don't feel any kid should be forced to have to.
I think it takes away from being and allowing a kid to be a kid.
After all they grow up too fast as it is , or so it seems sometimes.

I would venture a guess that most comic book aficionados are not young children anymore. It's an industry that seems geared toward adult/late-teen., geeky, males who can't git any and/or <banned "l" word>.

No children will be harmed in the --------izing of Batwoman.

I have no idea who they are geared to....Sure there are adult comics and cartoons geared for adults and that is ok.........but gearing such towards children is not a good thing.

There was something a while back, about a woman that bought a "cheap pack" of comic books, at some dollar/discount type store, that one of the comic books, apparently had some racial comments in it. ( THESE comic books WERE GEARED FOR CHILDREN. I forget what the comment(s?) in the book were, but I can say that was her fault for not previewing them. She THOUGHT they were safe and ok. She did not open the pack up and look at them.

Comic books were accepted as safe for kids at least when I was growing up.
From you have said , I guess they are not anymore.... There goes another good thing taken away from kids.....

buffettbride wrote:

alphabits wrote:

buffettbride wrote:
How come when two chicks do it for a man's benefit it's sexy, but a "real 'censored l word' is frowned upon?

Maybe it's just the stereotype -
Two hot chicks doing it are still two HOT chicks.
The latter (at least stereotypically) looks like a guy without an adam's apple.

So, you're saying it has to do with the "how bad you wanna stick your thingy in it" factor?

Or maybe "if" rather than "how bad".

But my guess is that's a big factor. (that and the fact that we're guys and we're pigs)

rednekkPH wrote:

alphabits wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

alphabits wrote: Yeah, and there was something a little fishy about the relationship between Scooby and Shaggy.

Ya think?

ROOBY ROOOOOOOO!!!!

I think they call that the Shaggy Surprise.

You are ruining our childhood fantasies. Next thing you know you'll be telling us that the relationship between Mr. Ziffle and Arnold the Pig on Green Acres was unnatural.

sy wrote:

buffettbride wrote: Fred was the fruity one, I think.

He wore that little necktie thingy. Of course he was.

Fred was a player, a speed freak, and a wannabe p*** star. Besides, who'd be gay when you could have Daphne?

Sam wrote:I have no idea who they are geared to....Sure there are adult comics and cartoons geared for adults and that is ok.........but gearing such towards children is not a good thing.

There was something a while back, about a woman that bought a "cheap pack" of comic books, at some dollar/discount type store, that one of the comic books, apparently had some racial comments in it. ( THESE comic books WERE GEARED FOR CHILDREN. I forget what the comment(s?) in the book were, but I can say that was her fault for not previewing them. She THOUGHT they were safe and ok. She did not open the pack up and look at them.

Comic books were accepted as safe for kids at least when I was growing up.
From you have said , I guess they are not anymore.... There goes another good thing taken away from kids.....

See, that's the thing, what's considered racist and 'unsafe' wasn't back then. I have comic books from when I was very little, and some of them are very much borderline.

Another perfect example, look at MASH (granted, not a child's show, but I used to watch it when I was littler), they nicknamed the one guy 'Spearchucker'. They would never get away with that nowadays, but it wasn't a big deal back then.

rednekkPH wrote:

sy wrote:

buffettbride wrote: Fred was the fruity one, I think.

He wore that little necktie thingy. Of course he was.

Fred was a player, a speed freak, and a wannabe p*** star. Besides, who'd be gay when you could have Daphne?

true, but I bet he swung both ways

sy wrote:

Sam wrote:I have no idea who they are geared to....Sure there are adult comics and cartoons geared for adults and that is ok.........but gearing such towards children is not a good thing.

There was something a while back, about a woman that bought a "cheap pack" of comic books, at some dollar/discount type store, that one of the comic books, apparently had some racial comments in it. ( THESE comic books WERE GEARED FOR CHILDREN. I forget what the comment(s?) in the book were, but I can say that was her fault for not previewing them. She THOUGHT they were safe and ok. She did not open the pack up and look at them.

Comic books were accepted as safe for kids at least when I was growing up.
From you have said , I guess they are not anymore.... There goes another good thing taken away from kids.....

See, that's the thing, what's considered racist and 'unsafe' wasn't back then. I have comic books from when I was very little, and some of them are very much borderline.

Another perfect example, look at MASH (granted, not a child's show, but I used to watch it when I was littler), they nicknamed the one guy 'Spearchucker'. They would never get away with that nowadays, but it wasn't a big deal back then.

2 words: Blazing Saddles.

Another 2 words: Archie Bunker.

rednekkPH wrote: 2 words: Blazing Saddles.

Another 2 words: Archie Bunker.

Yep and yep.

You can pretty much go back and tear apart most shows/movies from back then when compared to todays's 'politically correct' standards.

sy wrote:

rednekkPH wrote: 2 words: Blazing Saddles.

Another 2 words: Archie Bunker.

Yep and yep.

You can pretty much go back and tear apart most shows/movies from back then when compared to todays's 'politically correct' standards.

Can you imagine if they tried to release Blazing Saddles today?

rednekkPH wrote:

sy wrote:

rednekkPH wrote: 2 words: Blazing Saddles.

Another 2 words: Archie Bunker.

Yep and yep.

You can pretty much go back and tear apart most shows/movies from back then when compared to todays's 'politically correct' standards.

Can you imagine if they tried to release Blazing Saddles today?

Oh geez, I can only imagine the outcry about it.

sy wrote:

rednekkPH wrote: 2 words: Blazing Saddles.

Another 2 words: Archie Bunker.

Yep and yep.

You can pretty much go back and tear apart most shows/movies from back then when compared to todays's 'politically correct' standards.

Sorta depends on the audience and the times and so forth.

When I was a kid (AD 500 or so) the X-Men was a bit of an underground comic in that it wasn't a big seller. No Wolverine back then, either.

About a decade ago there was a bit of a buzz because, after years of negotiations, Marvel was going to bring the X-Men to Saturday morning cartoons. They had negotiated with the networks and were willing to make two changes to the Wolverine character to make him PC.

#1, he would drive a Jeep instead of riding a motorcycle.

#2, he wouldn't smoke cigars.

--PirateJohn--
Who both rides motorcycles *AND* smokes cigars.



<note the cigar in the left hand>



< dictating notes into a digital recorder in front of the Fontana d*m in western NC >

sy wrote:

Sam wrote:I have no idea who they are geared to....Sure there are adult comics and cartoons geared for adults and that is ok.........but gearing such towards children is not a good thing.

There was something a while back, about a woman that bought a "cheap pack" of comic books, at some dollar/discount type store, that one of the comic books, apparently had some racial comments in it. ( THESE comic books WERE GEARED FOR CHILDREN. I forget what the comment(s?) in the book were, but I can say that was her fault for not previewing them. She THOUGHT they were safe and ok. She did not open the pack up and look at them.

Comic books were accepted as safe for kids at least when I was growing up.
From you have said , I guess they are not anymore.... There goes another good thing taken away from kids.....

See, that's the thing, what's considered racist and 'unsafe' wasn't back then. I have comic books from when I was very little, and some of them are very much borderline.

Another perfect example, look at MASH (granted, not a child's show, but I used to watch it when I was littler), they nicknamed the one guy 'Spearchucker'. They would never get away with that nowadays, but it wasn't a big deal back then.

THAT is part of the REASON I don't agree with political correctness. It is ok for this or that to be said by this person or by that person of color or lack of color, If someone else says the same thing, they are WRONG.

Unless it is an adult comic book, I see no reason to gear a comic book concerning sexuality towards kids. Why make an issue out of such, unless perhaps, trying to get the kids to consider such? ( I am not saying this is what is happening) I am saying somethings are ment for kids and somethings are ment for adults.... To me this is not ment for kids.

As for the woman in the comic book issue, well that is her and her fault, I don't recall what the racist words or depictions were, but I do seem to recall there was a "so called" Rebel Flag mentioned. I saw no problem with that or what shown of the comic book at the time.

Say or believe what you will. I just think it takes away from, kids being kids, and robs them of something, that they will all to soon, and unfortunately, lose quickly enough, all on their own.

Let them be kids while they can and enjoy it.

Just like the many things we used to do as kids that are now "unsafe", obviously many of us that post in here or read in here survived those "most terrible and horrible" things.

Heaven forbid, if I take a keet and teach him/her a positive experience on how to check a firearm to make sure it is empty or loaded and how to aim and to shoot a target.

Yet appatebtly it is politically correct to have "alternative/any" sexuality conversations for kids to read in comic books?

I don't care if she's a shag gagger or not

I believe that the term "comic book" is no longer the accepted term, I believe that they are now called "graphic novels" and are in fact aimed primiarly at adults. This is a change from when I was a kid and I bought all sorts of comic books. I even have a few of them still, too bad they aren't in mint condition (I didn't know that they would be collectables someday!) or they would be worth a lot more. My grandfather had a Batman #1 that was in very good condition and I have no idea what happened to it when he passed away. I was overseas at the time and my mother wouldn't have known that it would be valuable. Oh well, hopefully it found a good home and didn't get tossed into the trash.

rednekkPH wrote:

sy wrote:

rednekkPH wrote: 2 words: Blazing Saddles.

Another 2 words: Archie Bunker.

Yep and yep.

You can pretty much go back and tear apart most shows/movies from back then when compared to todays's 'politically correct' standards.

Can you imagine if they tried to release Blazing Saddles today?

GPHMTA

I went to a Film Festival a few years back and Blazing Saddles
was on 2/3 of the Crowd was like "Oh I rememeber I took/went on a Date
when this was first out"

The other 1/3 were teens who had only seen the edited version.
they were like on the way out..

add to the list Mad Magazine..
Or Crazy.