give me a freakin break

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » June 3, 2006 10:21 pm

Marnin Grita Guy wrote:

Is that better?

so You have eaten my Ex wifes cooking?????

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » June 3, 2006 10:22 pm

katwich wrote:All this talk made me curious -

I did some research - it has a rather interesting history dating back to the Romans - I have had it and yes its very tasty, but of course I also like Veal so....go figure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras

The intersting part also is that the animals are essentially free range, then with the last week or so they are force fed, but the process for force feeding them only lasts 2-3 seconds. I also didn't realize that these birds, after the liver is harvested, are used to make another one of my favorite dishes duck confit

Anthony Bourdain had a show where he visited a process room..
Those were fair size ducks..
But that was in France..

BTW>.

I always thought it was Goose..

katwich · Post by **katwich** » June 3, 2006 10:27 pm

Anthony Bourdain had a show where he visited a process room..
Those were fair size ducks..
But that was in France..

BTW>.

I always thought it was Goose..[/quote]

It can be from either ducks or geese - so you're still DA MAN!!!

I just found the information interesting - always love to dig into new things and look at 'em from different perspectives

pbans · Post by **pbans** » June 4, 2006 12:02 am

ragtopW wrote:
Moonie wrote:It's not a ...mad dash...to ..save anything....

this isn't something new...it's been in the works for...

a lot of years....

it's not like this stuff feeds the starving masses.....ya know
OK I have thought about this all day and want to add my two cents

I know my views are not shared by many.. or possibly by just me.
it is a Duck.. Now I do not want to have the poor little critter
hurt. (fed untill his throat is hurt)
but it is a Duck. My thought is with this we are on a very slippery slope
what is next? Cease growing Salmon? Oysters? Mussells?

And in the history of the U.S. if you outlaw things that people want
you just make some groups richer..

Moonie?? I know (or I think I do ) that you don't watch as much TV as I do . Fois Gras is becoming More popular ( as well as veal)
via shows like Iron Chef People are more and more apt to
try and see how the "Other" half lives..

I may be forced to come back in another life as a force fed duck....but I'm with you on this one....it's DUCK.....a quacking sh*t machine...it's a DUCK....

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » June 4, 2006 12:19 am

phjrsaunt wrote:I like food that quacks, clucks, moos, oinks, or jumps through the woods.

I'm sorry it that offends anyone. If it does, let me know and I'll make you a Hella-good vegetarian meal when you come visit me in my own house.

and how do you feel about stuff that hunts fish off the pack ice in Canada?

polar bear haunch, anyone?

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » June 4, 2006 12:22 am

pbans wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
Moonie wrote:It's not a ...mad dash...to ..save anything....

this isn't something new...it's been in the works for...

a lot of years....

it's not like this stuff feeds the starving masses.....ya know
OK I have thought about this all day and want to add my two cents

I know my views are not shared by many.. or possibly by just me.
it is a Duck.. Now I do not want to have the poor little critter
hurt. (fed untill his throat is hurt)
but it is a Duck. My thought is with this we are on a very slippery slope
what is next? Cease growing Salmon? Oysters? Mussells?

And in the history of the U.S. if you outlaw things that people want
you just make some groups richer..

Moonie?? I know (or I think I do ) that you don't watch as much TV as I do . Fois Gras is becoming More popular ( as well as veal)
via shows like Iron Chef People are more and more apt to
try and see how the "Other" half lives..
I may be forced to come back in another life as a force fed duck....but I'm with you on this one....it's DUCK.....a quacking sh*t machine...it's a DUCK....

tho the Romans used them as part of their perimeter guard equipment... they are little, noisy, messy birds. with brains the size of walnuts.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » June 4, 2006 12:37 am

katwich wrote:Anthony Bourdain had a show where he visited a process room..
Those were fair size ducks..
But that was in France..

BTW>. I always thought it was Goose..

It can be from either ducks or geese - so you're still DA MAN!!!

I just found the information interesting - always love to dig into new things and look at 'em from different perspectives

[/quote]

and as a true BNer.. you love to eat..

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » June 4, 2006 2:50 am

ragtopW wrote:
Moonie?? I know (or I think I do ) that you don't watch as much TV as I do . Fois Gras is becoming More popular ( as well as veal)
via shows like Iron Chef People are more and more apt to
try and see how the "Other" half lives..

I don't know how much tv you watch..but...it's probably more than I do, yes...

as far as the "other" half...that's a bit off base, don't you think...you seriously think the "other" half can pay $20 for 2 oz. of...duck liver? hmmm..what would it take to feed a family of 4?

Iron Chef? Are there people that ...really cook like that?...what few times I've seen it, it's totally professional gourmet....I'd say not too many people are really into that... gourmet, yes..but these guys are professionals...I would believe that particular show is more entertainment than reality...I don't think I've ever seen Emeril doing the duck thing...not Fois Gras.

eating.. internal animal organs...is not healthy, anyway...(ask J. Dahlmer)

You know...if you only look at a duck or goose as something to be eaten you're missing out on free entertainment....I think they're pretty cool to watch...and I truly enjoy when the wild ones migrate..

a ducks brain is the size of a...walnut? Is it balding and smokes a cigar?

katwich · Post by **katwich** » June 4, 2006 9:09 am

I don't think I've ever seen Emeril doing the duck thing...not Fois Gras.

Here is a link to Foodtv.com - Emeril features it in his recipes and has created shows around it.

http://web.foodnetwork.com/food/web/sea ... tOrder=asc

eating.. internal animal organs...is not healthy, anyway...(ask J. Dahlmer)

I don't usually check with serial killers for eating tips - and that is one resource I've not wanted to utilize, as I'm not much of a cannibal - BUT the medical associations encourage you to liver since it's an excellent source of iron - now I'm not saying that a duck/goose liver has the same compounds as a calf liver, don't honestly know.

You know...if you only look at a duck or goose as something to be eaten you're missing out on free entertainment....I think they're pretty cool to watch...and I truly enjoy when the wild ones migrate..

I appreciate them for both aspects - I have some that live in my pond and enjoy watching them and have assisted in getting the ducklings to hatch.

a ducks brain is the size of a...walnut? Is it balding and smokes a cigar?

This was just tacky - but I will say at least the balding "duck" can utilize his resources and have an intelligent conversation grounded in fact vs. misinformation and stooping to throwing stones.

Moonie - I of course don't know you - but there is no right or wrong answer here, just different views - I've actually enjoyed looking into something a little further than I had in the past. Honestly not given much thought to Duck/Goose liver.....but have always appreciated learning about different cultures and history.

Guess we should be thankful he didn't find a post on the Dog Farming in South Korea - and no - that's not something I'm wanting to try or discuss

See even we midwestern girls have our limits!

Moonie · Post by **Moonie** » June 4, 2006 9:13 am

then let's just flip you a dead fish !!

enjoy it all you want....the supply will eventually be gone...

searching the 'net for recipes? geeze...that's a tad weak, don't you think?

know what I mean? this discussion is basically moot...the suppliers are going out of business and the middle guy has quit delivering said product...

Hmm you wanna talk dog? KC's a hot bed of puppy mills, no need for you to go to Korea...

Midwest? yeah, I've been there...

throwing stones...I'll leave that one there...you are a newbie, after all..

Sam · Post by **Sam** » June 4, 2006 9:14 am

Actually I thought it was goose too. As for the French and what they eat and what makes a gourmet meal ,......well some things I think I would have to pass by. I saw an umpteen course meal served and part of it was some sort of little bird cooked whole and popped into the mouth all at once. There is a special napkin provided that one spits the beak and feet into. Not saying I wouldn't eat one but the whole thing looked pretty disgusting.

As for eating animal organs, one some people love and some people hate is liver. WHY the liver? I dunno. Personally I love liver. Very tasty to me. If you don't like it. That is well and good and ok with me.
This just goes to show that we trully have learned nothing. Take a look at Prohibition.Beer and Alcohol became a forbidden fruit and created an underground market....and many people became quite rich.

So who did benefit and actually gain from such type laws and who REALLY LOST? and who REALLY paid???

I don't normally eat in gourmet restaurants, give me a hole in the wall, simple looking little place with good food and I am there. But yes I do like different foods and Iwould love to sample this delicacy,(well maybe more than sample.)

I don't think animals should be treated inhumanely by any means. The animal or plant is a food item no matter how you look at it. So what do you do? We are people and we have to eat....I cannot say much veal but I have eaten more than my share of lamb chops.

No I never saw the lamb they came from. I know there were, and probably still are, disreputal people out there that raise veal and other animals.
Anyone ever had Kolby beef? Do you know how that particular cow/steer was raised? It had a good life

I have raised geese, ducks, and chickens. I will tell you this you will not find a better watch or gaurd dog than geese. ( geese are also good for your lawn. they mow it and fertilize it) If you think I am kidding about geese being good alarm animals wait until you experience it. NOTHING gets by them. Just wait until they attack. you may not think they can do much damage or instill fear....but just wait until you get attacked by one or more. Appearences are decieving........Given a choice between relying on 140 pound rottweiler or a flock of geese for security.......I will take a flock of geese most any day. Laugh if you want and all you want at that.
We will see what happens when you or someone tries to get around them.

As for the foie gras and the ducks.....yes I would and I will eat it. I will eat most anything that won't eat me first and I know have eaten quite a few things that would have eaten me first, if given the opportunity.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » June 4, 2006 9:24 am

katwich wrote:
Guess we should be thankful he didn't find a post on the Dog Farming in South Korea - and no - that's not something I'm wanting to try or discuss See even we midwestern girls have our limits!

just need to know two things about dog farming:

Chihuahuas make good snacks, just enough to whet the appetite, but not give you that bloatedly-full feeling... and St. Bernards/Great Pyrrennes (sp) are good when you're having the whole family over for a barbeque...

bumper · Post by **bumper** » June 4, 2006 9:42 am

doesn't suprise me California was one of the first states to interfere with legal private business practices. Ya think they(our esteem leaders) would be more concerened with....oh I dunno....education, health care, the states budget, immigration and undocumented workers....just another case of having priorities completely turned around in order to appease the extremist loud mouths from PETA.

phjrsaunt · Post by **phjrsaunt** » June 4, 2006 10:01 am

Moonie wrote:
phjrsaunt wrote:I understand that, Moonie et al. And I'm not saying this to upset anyone or rile anyone up, but I've never tried foi gras, and I'd at least like to try it.
better hurry...get your $20 out, quick!!...

I suspect you'll have to dress for dinner...I doubt you can get it in carry out...

Moonie,
Not a problem. I assure you that I am perfectly capable of "dressing for dinner." I don't take ALL my meals here on "Redneck Row."

In response to some other people's comments, whoever they are, b/c I'm not into quoting and it's Sunday morning and that's too much like work

And I'll eat all the danged fish and shrimp I want to, too. They're being farmed now to help supply them, since they are so popular.

And it's caviar, with an "a" at the end.

katwich · Post by **katwich** » June 4, 2006 10:09 am

Well one thing I know for sure is....

The Hoot Island Team is the best!!!!!

Miss Ya'll - Hugs and Kisses!!

bumper · Post by **bumper** » June 4, 2006 10:11 am

They farm fish now?? GASP

the "it will eventually run out" crack by Moonie is a typical response when the lefties run of out witty comebacks.

Mt. St. Helens will erupt before our fish supply runs out.

On the other hand...eat wild boar..they cannot be eradicated despite the best efforts of some well intentioned naturalists who feel the pigs are a pain in the ass...HEY, what about the every living creature has a soul? maybe pigs don't count

phjrsaunt · Post by **phjrsaunt** » June 4, 2006 10:11 am

katwich wrote:Well one thing I know for sure is....

The Hoot Island Team is the best!!!!!

Miss Ya'll - Hugs and Kisses!!

Hoot Islanders know how to do some cookin'!!!

Sam · Post by **Sam** » June 4, 2006 10:12 am

bumper wrote:doesn't suprise me California was one of the first states to interfere with legal private business practices. Ya think they(our esteem leaders) would be more concerened with....oh I dunno....education, health care, the states budget, immigration and undocumented workers....just another case of having priorities completely turned around in order to appease the extremist loud mouths from PETA.

That kind of reminds me of something a good friend in South Africa told me yesterday......it was about the crime there and what the "Minister of whatever" ( The top cop ) had to say about it..... To give you the short version, the guy actually said "....If you don't like the crime you can always leave...." I don't mean to,nor am I trying to hijack this thread but you brought up PETA and California, and their umm so called "leadership" made me think of that.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » June 4, 2006 10:13 am

Anyone ever had Kolby beef? Do you know how that particular cow/steer was raised?

Kolby beef milk yields Colby cheese eventually. Kobe Beef on the other hand...

phjrsaunt · Post by **phjrsaunt** » June 4, 2006 10:15 am

bumper wrote:They farm fish now?? GASP

the "it will eventually run out" crack by Moonie is a typical response when the lefties run of out witty comebacks.

Mt. St. Helens will erupt before our fish supply runs out.

On the other hand...eat wild boar..they cannot be eradicated despite the best efforts of some well intentioned naturalists who feel the pigs are a pain in the ass...HEY, what about the every living creature has a soul? maybe pigs don't count

I like boar (to eat). It's very good!

And Moonie, let be clear that I disgree with your point of view , and not you persnally.